Re: [GNHLUG] Re: Hosstraders Dead, but NEARFest Lives!!

2007-03-20 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Mar 19, 2007, at 18:38, Ben Scott wrote: - It puts most of the burden on the operators, not the perpetrators I'm much more afraid of the legal system than losing $20 - the burden would depend on individual decisions like that. Some days I'd be happy to have somebody do monitor

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Mar 19, 2007, at 17:54, Ben Scott wrote: /me ponders running early Linux distros in a VM, for the hack value... I've got some InfoMagic discs with floppy images around here somewhere (frikkin' packrat) if you want them. I'm curious if there's a VM that emulates an old enough PC for

Making Progress [ was x86 emulator for PPC Mac OS X? ]

2007-03-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did the docs mention whether it was only on a PPC system that it crashed? They didn't mention which version. I seem to be running v.9.0, not sure of the sub-version (i.e. dXX). I'll play around with it some more and see what I can get. Maybe it's

Re: Making Progress [ was x86 emulator for PPC Mac OS X? ]

2007-03-20 Thread Tom Buskey
On 3/20/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did the docs mention whether it was only on a PPC system that it crashed? They didn't mention which version. I seem to be running v.9.0, not sure of the sub-version (i.e. dXX). I'll play around with

Re: Making Progress with x86 emulator for PPC Mac OS X

2007-03-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you running PPC or x86 OpenBSD? x86. I've been trying to play with it under Solaris 10 x86 and haven't done the tun/tap stuff yet. I was able to get XP to run updates though. QEMU's user-based networking will just work with respect to using the host

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Charles Farinella
Bill McGonigle wrote: Funny thing is I'm doing some work later today on a new project using a Slackware-based distro. (first time in ~12 years) FWIW, I'm wiping my Ubuntu 6.10 this week and putting Slack 11 back on. I'm just too stupid for these modern distributions. :-) --charlie

Re: Making Progress with x86 emulator for PPC Mac OS X

2007-03-20 Thread Tom Buskey
On 3/20/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the tun/tap stuff you can have the guest OS create a bridge on one of it's physical NICs and have your guest OS use normal IP address to appear to other systems on your LAN as just another system. I have this up and running under Linux,

Re: [GNHLUG] Re: Hosstraders Dead, but NEARFest Lives!!

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It puts most of the burden on the operators, not the perpetrators I'm much more afraid of the legal system than losing $20 From the standpoint of the operators, that doesn't matter. Consider: I = You bring a CRT in P = You pay the

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 03/20/2007 11:43 AM, Ben Scott wrote: On 3/20/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By time my friend, Jim Hart, convinced me to try Linux, Slackware was out (with an IP stack!), so I'm not really sure what Yggdrasil supported, myself. Yggdrasil was last released circa 1995. It

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Tyson Sawyer
On 3/20/07, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started using Linux in the summer of '92 (get off my lawn!), so it was even pre-distro. IIRC, there has always been an IP stack of some sort, since I had a Western Digital *mumble* ISA Ethernet controller that I could use to network with

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread mike ledoux
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Tyson Sawyer wrote: ...oh crap! I replied to a message that came from a list, but when I was about to click send I see that my reply doesn't go back to where the message came from. Now off to edit the To: field before I can click send. That is a

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Bill Freeman
mike ledoux writes: On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Tyson Sawyer wrote: ...oh crap! ... That is a problem... with your mail reader. If it bothers you, I recommend switching to a mail reader that doesn't have that problem, rather than complaining. Then I'd have other things

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread mike ledoux
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 03:02:40PM -0500, Bill Freeman wrote: mike ledoux writes: On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Tyson Sawyer wrote: ...oh crap! ... That is a problem... with your mail reader. If it bothers you, I recommend switching to a mail reader that doesn't have

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Bill Freeman
mike ledoux writes: On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 03:02:40PM -0500, Bill Freeman wrote: mike ledoux writes: On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Tyson Sawyer wrote: ...oh crap! ... That is a problem... with your mail reader. If it bothers you, I recommend switching

Re: MonadLUG notes, 8-March-2007: Pitch your distro

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but finding new things to complain about is at least half of the fun! Back in my day, we only had three things to complain about, and we liked it that way! -- One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Jeffry Smith
On 3/21/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, world! So, I'm thinking about getting a new handheld computer (AKA PDA), before the one I have now finishes crumbling into dust. (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.)

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Roy
So, I'm thinking about getting a new handheld computer (AKA PDA), before the one I have now finishes crumbling into dust. (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.) I'd like to hear people's opinions and experiences on

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread mike ledoux
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:11:00PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: I'm especially interested in the Sharp Zaurus. I understand that, while it's nominally not sold in the US, it's pretty easy to find vendors importing it, and that the manufacturer support picture is pretty good (for the immediate

Re: Safety Tip: aim caff away from foot before triggering...

2007-03-20 Thread Bill Sconce
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:41:10 -0400 Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A note to save others some difficulties when using caff to sign keys... I spent several hours today looking into Postfix, reading the sources of caff, and searching for HOWTOs. Can anyone give me a pointer as to how to do

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.) I would seriously consider combining the two devices. I find it very helpful. ~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread brk
On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Ben Scott wrote: ~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an ideal world. But wireless carriers universally see any cell phone, and all the data on it, as *their* property. They don't sell you a phone, they let you use their phone, maybe, for a little

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Roy
~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an ideal world. But wireless carriers universally see any cell phone, and all the data on it, as *their* property. They don't sell you a phone, they let you use their phone, maybe, for a little while, so long as you keep up on your

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread brk
On Mar 20, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Ben Scott wrote: I object to the whole attitude wireless carriers have. So do I, but in the end I have bigger things to worry about. Besides, as soon as Google rolls out their nationwide Wifi, and accompanying phone it won't be such an issue anymore.

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, brk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I object to the whole attitude wireless carriers have. So do I, but in the end I have bigger things to worry about. From what I can tell, most people have that attitude. Which, of course, is what lets so many companies get away with such lousy

Packrat or Archivist? [ was Adventures in GPG ]

2007-03-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It'll be a sad day when CDs no longer have a device to play in. I consolidated lots of old floppy media to a few CDs. I have hundreds of CDs now. Something tells me there's someone out there who has consolidated a bunch of: - paper tape to punch cards

Re: [GNHLUG] Re: Hosstraders Dead, but NEARFest Lives!!

2007-03-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Obligatory-Linux-insertion Of course, we could write some software that runs on Linux that drives robots to disassemble computers/monitors/other hazardous waste, but why bother (hint, prod). /Obligatory-Linux-insertion Of course, we'd have to be sure

Re: Packrat or Archivist? [ was Adventures in GPG ]

2007-03-20 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
- paper tape to punch cards - punch cards to 9-track tape - 9-track tapes to 8 floppies - 8 floppies to 5.25 floppies - 5.25 floppies to 3.5 floppies - 3.5 floppies to a CD - CDs to DVD And they'll probably consolidate all there DVDs someday to something else. Somewhere,

Re: Packrat or Archivist? [ was Adventures in GPG ]

2007-03-20 Thread Dan Jenkins
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: - paper tape to punch cards - punch cards to 9-track tape - 9-track tapes to 8 floppies - 8 floppies to 5.25 floppies - 5.25 floppies to 3.5 floppies - 3.5 floppies to a CD - CDs to DVD And they'll probably consolidate all there DVDs someday to something else.