[GNHLUG] MerriLUG Nashua, Thur 19 Jul, Trawling for Titillating Topics

2007-07-12 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
Who  : Everybody What : Program suggestions and improvements Where: Martha's Exchange Day  : Thur 19 Jul **Next Week** Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for discussion :: Overview     What past discussion topics did you like most? What new issues should be covered? Any suggestions for

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread klussier
-- Original message -- From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A quick Google found Linux tools to do the formatting and presumably copying, so a working TRS-80 is not needed, just a 5.25 floppy drive (and Linux, the

OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I saw the various discussions of OpenVPN TCP vs. UDP on the list, and in particular saw some people saying TCP over TCP is bad, avoid unless necessary and others saying That's only under rare circumstances. I switched the work VPN from TCP (which it has been for almost a year) to UDP, and users

Re: IRC (was: threadjacked a lot)

2007-07-12 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 02:30:02PM -0400, Chip Marshall wrote: On 7/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Threads like this one on the cent key - consisting of lots of short, curious, posts - really make me wish we had a #gnhlug on freenode or something. Not sure how many

Creating self-extracting zip files for DOS under Linux

2007-07-12 Thread Paul Lussier
Hi all, We just had this question come up here at work, as we are trying to deal with BIOS upgrading. In case anyone needs to know how to do this, it's rather simple and elegant: - Grab a DOS executable stub from here: ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/MSDOS/unz552x3.exe - Create

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Warren Luebkeman
This reminds me of a discussion I had with Maddog and Bill Sconce earlier this week, regarding the possibility of a show-and-tell of some of these ancient computers. I'm sure others would be very curious to see some of these things in working condition, I know I would. Especially a paper tape

Rebuilding RHEL3 libc.so from source

2007-07-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
We're trying to debug (what we assume is) a nasty application bug in software deployed on some RHEL3 boxes, and it looks like we might have to resort to instrumenting some low-level funcs in libc to accomplish that. Having paid RHAT for access to the channel that entitles us to grab RPMs from

Trixbox w/ DNS SRV records?

2007-07-12 Thread Bill McGonigle
Has anybody here implemented name to extension mapping with Trixbox, SIP, and DNS SRV records? The idea is somebody places a SIP call to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it looks up the DNS SRV record, finds that my SIP server can be reached at librescu.bfccomputing.com:5060/udp and then [unknown

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Derek Atkins
Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the various discussions of OpenVPN TCP vs. UDP on the list, and in particular saw some people saying TCP over TCP is bad, avoid unless necessary and others saying That's only under rare circumstances. I switched the work VPN from TCP (which it

Re: Trixbox w/ DNS SRV records?

2007-07-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On 7/12/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody here implemented name to extension mapping with Trixbox, SIP, and DNS SRV records? The idea is somebody places a SIP call to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it looks up the DNS SRV record, finds that my SIP server can be reached at

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On 7/12/07, Derek Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drew Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the various discussions of OpenVPN TCP vs. UDP on the list, and in particular saw some people saying TCP over TCP is bad, avoid unless necessary and others saying That's only under rare

Re: The cent key

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Sconce
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:09:37 -0400 Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis Roy wrote: On my mac I can hold option $ Just my 2¢ ___ On my ThinkPad under FC6, I can just type ¢ By selecting Menu, Character Map, View, by Unicode Block,

Re: [REALLY-OT] namelessness, GPLv3 (new thread name = happy Ben)

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Sconce
RE: Zen. Find one line from me posted at the bottom. -Bill On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:04:53 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:26:56 -0400 On Jul 10, 2007, at 14:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I am not my name. I am

Re: GPLv3

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Sconce
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:55:19 -0400 Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can find a link to the video shown at lastnight's GPLv3 presentation in Durham? It would be much appreciated Isn't it on YouTube? Search for 'GPLv3' Ah. THIS is

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/12/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But from a practical standpoint, it only *really* makes a difference when you have massive packet loss on a link. I've seen other real-world reports where switching from TCP to UDP apparently made a difference. I'm not sure massive packet

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Ed lawson
Anyone like to buy a functional OSI 4P-MF with a whopping 24K of memory? Mini-floppy is 80K as I recall. All docs and original shipping box. Or what about a TI-94A with expansion box? No that is a thing of beauty. They really knew how how to make hardware. The expansion box must weigh 40# --

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On 7/12/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Every NAT implementation I've used in the past five years has supported NAT of UDP. What the heck are you using, Linux 2.0? :) The main advantage I find with TCP is that in most IWF

Re: Trixbox w/ DNS SRV records?

2007-07-12 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jul 12, 2007, at 12:55, Thomas Charron wrote: SIP can already do what you're talking about, without the server needing to actually manage any sort of DNS records. So, how does the SIP client know which server to connect to for bfccomputing.com? My understanding is that SIP SRV records

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/12/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP is not bidirectional by nature. I'm not really sure what you think that proves. IP is connectionless, too. But most application protocols *are* bidirectional by nature, including just about every UDP protocol ever invented, including

Re: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP

2007-07-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On 7/12/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/12/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP is not bidirectional by nature. I'm not really sure what you think that proves. IP is connectionless, too. But most application protocols *are* bidirectional by nature, including just

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 02:41:19PM -0400, Bill Sconce wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:17:25 -0400 Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of a discussion I had with Maddog and Bill Sconce earlier this week, regarding the possibility of a show-and-tell of some of these

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Tom Wittbrodt
Ed lawson wrote: Anyone like to buy a functional OSI 4P-MF with a whopping 24K of memory? Mini-floppy is 80K as I recall. All docs and original shipping box. Or what about a TI-94A with expansion box? No that is a thing of beauty. They really knew how how to make hardware. The expansion

Stupid UDP NAT argument (was: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP)

2007-07-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/12/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is no reliably standard way to provide full UDP nat traversal, which is why companies like Skype roll their own solution. VoIP uses dynamic port numbers for connections, which is why you need stateful, application-layer packet

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 06:09:06PM -0400, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: Oh boy, a place where I can trot this out: http://www.geezer.org/core-window/ :-) It is missing the sense wire. And/or the inhibit. (as noted in the caption, actually :) ) mm

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
It made quite an impression being on the job all of 15 minutes then being asked to drop several newly assembled machines from a height of 4 feet onto a thinly carpeted manufacturing floor as part of a drop test. As I recall, in the 2 years I worked there, we did that test exactly once.

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/12/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... regarding the possibility of a show-and-tell of some of these ancient computers. Would an abacus qualify? ;-) Seriously, that does sound like a neat meeting night. -- Ben ___

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Oh boy, a place where I can trot this out: http://www.geezer.org/core-window/ :-) It is missing the sense wire. md ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 18:14 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: On 7/12/07, Warren Luebkeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... regarding the possibility of a show-and-tell of some of these ancient computers. Would an abacus qualify? ;-) Seriously, that does sound like a neat meeting night. --

Retro computing + junk collections Re: [OT] Looking for ancient boot media

2007-07-12 Thread Bill Ricker
And you could have your CRT in any color you wanted, as long as it was green. Or Amber (some later Kaypro/Vixen models) If you stage a Computer Museum Rally, I'll drive up from beantown with some items. Besides the TRS80 mod III, I've got a programmable calculator whose tower-case has 4 bit

Re: Stupid UDP NAT argument (was: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP)

2007-07-12 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:10:15 -0400 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stupid UDP NAT argument (was: OpenVPN TCP vs UDP) Okay, this is third (at least) time that you've done this... So I'm going to respectfully suggest that you reconsider the arrogance with which you choose your