On 10/14/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/13/07, John Abreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, if you're using bash, then
http://xkcd.com/{1..327}
Depends on what version of bash.
That's why we should be using
#!/bin/bash-3.2.9
at the top of our shell
Ben Scott wrote:
On 10/14/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I still think there needs to be an economic model for writers of
technical books to go to the bother of writing them...
Writing well is a craft and an art, and one that deserves compensation.
#ifdef MOLOTOV_COCKTAIL
Laura and I made it out to the Deerfield fair grounds late Saturday
morning to see the NEAR-fest, North East Amateur Radio festival [1].
Weather was great: sunny and bright, crisp and a bit breezy, a perfect
day for enjoying the near-peak foliage and outdoors.
Neither of us is a Ham, and tuning
On 10/15/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It'd be nice if --version wasn't so wordy or you could get just the version
like uname -r
FYI, there is a BASH_VERSION internal variable that's useful for
this sort of thing. There's a bunch of others with similar good info,
too. They're not
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:05:27 -0400
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We ran into Bill Sconce there, and he had found some treasures. Did
anyone else attend?
Went down early Sat. and likely left about the time you arrived. Some
of those LED flashlights are very impressive. 140
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:37:48PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
On 10/11/07, Mark E. Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mm (I suppose we could just say xkcd.com/{`seq 1 327`})
Doesn't work. You need the comma a separator within {...}. But even
Funny, right after I sent that (obviously should
Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ben had to find the Boy Scout meeting and the girls volleyball
practices before finding us.
One would have thought that Ben could have enlisted the aid of said
Boy Scouts to assist... Unless, they *and* he were subsequently
delayed at the *next* location :)
Or: What's an order of magnitude between friends?
So, my desktop (which has no UPS, by the way) has been up for more
than 500 days. Evidently, the linux kernel doesn't like going more
than 500 days without being rebooted :)
$ uptime
09:44:41 up 5 days, 21:38, 50 users, load
This is a pretty well known kernel bug. Sounds like you are still on a
2.4 kernel, because this was fixed in 2.5 (and later 2.4's). The
kernel used to base uptime on an internal counter called the jiffies
counter, which overflows at ~497 days uptime.
On 10/15/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or: What's an order of magnitude between friends?
So, my desktop (which has no UPS, by the way) has been up for more
than 500 days. Evidently, the linux kernel doesn't like going more
than 500 days without being rebooted :)
500 days
On Oct 14, 2007, at 21:04, Ted Roche wrote:
Also, O'Reilly's Safari engages in page cloaking towards the search
engines. I half-expect that the Google people are looking at my
complaints saying, I don't get it, I see the content there, not an
advertisement for Safari... They're wasting my
On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:27, Paul Lussier wrote:
So, my desktop (which has no UPS, by the way) has been up for more
than 500 days. Evidently, the linux kernel doesn't like going more
than 500 days without being rebooted :)
Has there been no kernel security issue in the past year and a half
I tried the 28 hour day
In 1973 I worked for Aetna Life and Casualty. The company's computers
ran 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
The operators there worked 12-hour shifts, so we only had two shifts of
operators, not three. In order to work (more or less) 40-hour weeks,
they really worked
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:27, Paul Lussier wrote:
So, my desktop (which has no UPS, by the way) has been up for more
than 500 days. Evidently, the linux kernel doesn't like going more
than 500 days without being rebooted :)
Has there been no kernel
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
It really concerns me that our Sysadmins are planning to do this, as
they don't want to take down the MySQL or CVS servers while they do a
backup.
MySQL file locking, and the integrity of
On 10/15/07, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has there been no kernel security issue in the past year and a half
(seriously, I don't remember one but that would be surprising)?
There have probably been several, I have no idea.
The cobbler's children have no shoes.
-- Ben
On 10/15/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
CA as in ARCServe? Ewww. Horrible software. Run, do not walk,
away from that crap.
It really concerns me that our Sysadmins are
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote:
One is to have the database server do a dump/export/whatever to disk
file(s) before the backup runs, and then just backup those files.
Essentially a two-stage backup. Not sophisticated, but often
reliable.
This is what I do. It's
On 10/15/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/15/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
CA as in ARCServe? Ewww. Horrible software. Run, do not walk,
away from that crap.
On 10/15/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They intend to use some kinda of 'CA Agent for Open Files', which
makes me cringe even more.
Open file agents (OFA) are often useful on MS Windows, where files
are frequently under mandatory locks. There's no advisory file
locking under
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 16:44 -0400, Thomas Charron wrote:
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
NO (but why should that stop me).
It really concerns me that our Sysadmins are planning to do this, as
they don't want to take down
A few thoughts:
- have a MySQL slave system that you can shut down for backup purposes.
Doesn't have to be beefy, just enough disk space to store the DB.
- mysqldump is your friend.
- I think that you can sort-of hot backup MyISAM tables, and there's a hot
backup utility for InnoDB.
-there is
Thomas Charron wrote:
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
It really concerns me that our Sysadmins are planning to do this, as
they don't want to take down the MySQL or CVS servers while they do a
backup.
MySQL file
On 10/15/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thomas Charron wrote:
Has anyone had experience with using CA backup solutions backing up
CVS and MySQL data repositories?
There are ways (different ones, of course) to do hot backups of MySQL
while it is online, but they vary with the data
On 10/15/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/15/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open file agents do *nothing* to address problems due to files on
disk being in an inconsistent state when the backup runs. With MS
Excel or whatever, this isn't an issue. Not so with a
On 10/15/07, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These backups are taking place on a Windows 2003 Server running
under VMWare.
Ah. Then the OFA will likely be useful for the scenario I described.
I was more curiouse as to if binary backup of the file done while it was
locked would be
Neither of us is a Ham,
I am. [1]
Did anyone else attend?
I was there Friday afternoon/evening, sporting a golf-umbrella from my
long-gone start-up. Saturday, I was at First Ubuntu Massachusetts LoCo
InstallFest. [2]
There were several food vendors as well: the apple crisp smelled
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