Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia... (was: Interesting article)

2010-03-06 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Apple and Microsoft have paid up royalties on these things ... ... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all of the stuff necessary to do DVD-authoring!? While I've never touched

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia...

2010-03-06 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: Apple and Microsoft have paid up royalties on these things ... ... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all of the stuff necessary to do

Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia... (was: Interesting article)

2010-03-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes: Not one Linux distro I've seen does a convincing job with consumer media, an absolutely basic requirement, and something we ought to be able to get right. Well, please ask the DVD people not to used royalty bearing patents in their codecs, and

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia... (was: Interesting article)

2010-03-05 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
... which has me wondering: how does Ubuntu get away with shipping all of the stuff necessary to do DVD-authoring!? Ahhh, what does it meant to do DVD-authoring? Moving encoded bits on a DVD? No problem! Taking video bits from my video camera (encoded into Mpeg) and putting it onto my DVD? No

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia...

2010-03-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com writes: Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes: [...] H.264? Mpeg3/4/2? Have your friends send you Ogg Vorbis stuff. Plays fine. Apple and Microsoft have paid up royalties on these things (or at least Microsoft thought it had paid up

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia...

2010-03-05 Thread Ralph Mack
On 3/5/2010 6:27 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Joshua Judson Rosenroz...@geekspace.com writes: And, actually..., I saw came upon these interesting articles the other day: http://bemasc.net/wordpress/2010/02/02/no-you-cant-do-that-with-h264/

Re: Why Linux has problems with proprietary multimedia...

2010-03-05 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Ralph, So what it really comes down to is not who is in compliance with the patent but who the patent-holders permit to violate their patent, how well the patent holder was compensated to look the other way, and whether at some future date the organization in this state of grace manages to