Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Will; I think this is basically what I and other contributors meant by remapping CapsLock. I would consider using the XKB client API for this instead, in case xmodmap is not in the path (anyhow, I think XKB is the preferred interface for modifying the keyboard map on XKB-aware systems).

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi Will. Just tried the patch. It works nicely. The only issue here is cleanliness and restoring the xmodmap to what it was before Orca changed it. I'm not sure this is a big concern. The reason is that I assume Orca is going to be something that the user runs all the time to access their

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Willie Walker
The concern regarding XKB/xmodmap is worth noting. I believe xmodmap is an acceptable XKB client (if I recall correctly, xmodmap has code in it to work with XKB), however, and it should ship on all platforms we care about. If we come across a platform that causes us concern with xmodmap, we can

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Willie Walker
To play devil's advocate: What about instances where folks are sharing the same computer but not using separate usernames, and not all of them are blind? Okay so it's a stretch ;-) Good question, and not really a stretch when you think about public use information systems. The Caps

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Willie Walker
So...is the proposed solution acceptable? Another way to look at it would be this: assume I was smart enough to remember the xmodmap solution when Mike was beating on me for Caps Lock last year. Caps Lock would work as described above and Caps Lock would be the default Orca modifier. Would

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Willie Walker wrote: If this constraint is acceptable, I think we're done. If the majority of users are adamant about obtaining normal Caps Lock behavior via some other gesture on the same key (e.g., a quick double press of Caps Lock), well, we'll need to think about it. If users say that

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi Will. Damn computer! I'm looking for the enormously large collection of books on 'GNOME', not 'gnome'. Why doesn't this Caps Lock key work? My life is ruined. Down with Orca users! Kill them all! They must die! Take their babies, too!. And folks say libraries -- and Hollis -- are

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi Will. If this constraint is acceptable, I think we're done. I think you're done. The functionality provided via the most recent patch (i.e. the one in which Caps Lock gets restored when you quit Orca) works very nicely. Thanks for doing it! Regarding an alternative way to have full

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Willie Walker
Noted. For those users that absolutely positively need to set the lock modifier, they can set the Orca modifier to something else. This isn't perfect, but it is workable. If there are no reasonable objections by the end of the day, I'm going to consider discussion of this issue closed and the

FW: Accessability Interfaces

2006-11-09 Thread Ian Pascoe
Hi Bill Thanks for the in-depth response - wasn't trying to single FF out, just noting that a lot of postings on some lists about it. The point I was trying to aim at was one of the development language already having the assistive technology link built in for graphical interfaces. So that when

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Janina Sajka
Willie Walker writes: The concern regarding XKB/xmodmap is worth noting. I believe xmodmap is an acceptable XKB client (if I recall correctly, xmodmap has code in it to work with XKB), however, and it should ship on all platforms we care about. If we come across a platform that causes us

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Bill Haneman, le Wed 08 Nov 2006 13:24:53 +, a écrit : Luke Yelavich wrote: ... In Windows, Jaws manages to prevent the capslock key from being latched or unlatched. To latch/unlatch, you press shift + Capslock, or press capslock twice quickly. I see. I expect that would be a

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
On my french keyboard, Mod2 is Numlock, Mod4 is Windows and Mod5 is AltGr. I didn't manage to hit Mod3. Samuel ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list

RE: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-09 Thread lazzaro
I vote for employing Insert and CapsLock as modifiers. This will emulate what's used in some Windows screen readers, and users will be accustomed to it, which is a good thing. Joe Lazzaro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Burridge

orca localization

2006-11-09 Thread coscell
hello, How to port internal messages of orca to Chinese language? ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list