Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Chris: I'll try to respond to each of your points in turn: On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 00:51, Chris Jones wrote: But this very same thing makes it very awkward who want sticky keys on the keyboard and non-sticky on a physical. Which would be true for all non-a11y users and some a11y users. I

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 01:42, Peter Korn wrote: Hi Chris, One more thing. You write: Using the system wide sticky keys means I need to have at least one dialog box when my keyboard starts and is therefore completely unacceptable. Have you filed an RFE on this issue (seeking a way to

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Chris Jones
The very same thing refers to where you say that disabled users will complain if the onscreen keyboard conflicts with sticky keys. What I am trying to say is that an onscreen keyboard should work whether sticky keys is on or not. Surely an application changing system wide settings just so it can

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-27 Thread Bill Haneman
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 16:03, Chris Jones wrote: The very same thing refers to where you say that disabled users will complain if the onscreen keyboard conflicts with sticky keys. What I am trying to say is that an onscreen keyboard should work whether sticky keys is on or not. By its very

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Chris: The answer is, don't implement sticky keys in your keyboard. You should be using the system-wide StickyKeys settings and feature instead (as GOK does). Interfering with the normal operation of the system wide setting (i.e clashing with it as your app does), is itself an accessibility

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Jones
Thanks for your reply. The system-wide StickyKeys is too inflexible for my needs. I have the following gripes: * A user might want the onscreen keyboard to be sticky but not the physical. * It does not allow me to implement the functionality in a way that is suitable for an onscreen

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 21:43, Chris Jones wrote: Thanks for your reply. The system-wide StickyKeys is too inflexible for my needs. I have the following gripes: * A user might want the onscreen keyboard to be sticky but not the physical. I am not convinced that users will really want this,

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill, is it an accessibility violation to have unusable accessibility tools? Are you going to say something helpful? OK, I should have resisted that last line, sorry. But there is a valid point under

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 23:05, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill Haneman wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Bill, is it an accessibility violation to have unusable accessibility tools? Are you going to say something helpful? OK, I should

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Bill Haneman
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Chris Jones wrote: ... In other words I cannot spend the summer making gnome-a11y suitable for my needs. What I need is a temporary work around until after the SoC when I could find time to work on this aspect of gnome-a11y and

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Jones
But this very same thing makes it very awkward who want sticky keys on the keyboard and non-sticky on a physical. Which would be true for all non-a11y users and some a11y users. In the end though the only manner it interferes with my keyboard is the annoying dialogue that pops up, and the

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Peter Korn
Hi Chris, One more thing. You write: Using the system wide sticky keys means I need to have at least one dialog box when my keyboard starts and is therefore completely unacceptable. Have you filed an RFE on this issue (seeking a way to invoke the system-wide Sticky-Keys functionality