Re: Scroll to zoom in/out.

2010-04-15 Thread Sean Brady
On 04/14/2010 07:58 PM, Jason Sauders wrote: (In response to comment below) I absolutely positively agree. Gnome Shell is a fantastic thing, and I can see it going far. Out of all of the users I have shown Gnome Shell to and have used it for an extensive period (in the dozens) I can chop a few

Re: Finding and Reminding, tech issues, 3.0 and beyond

2010-04-15 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 18:04 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: On 14/04/10 16:10, Alexander Larsson wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 18:09 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: User defined tags A completely flat view of all documents doesn't handle all users or use cases. Frequent filers will want

Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Rovanion Luckey
Good day, I have an idea to present that I would like to call the PieThrower. The idea resolvs around providing the user with an easy and fast interface to throw application windows to different workspaces. The inspiration came from this very mailing list. Basically the discussion went around

Do/not implement Dock.

2010-04-15 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2010-04-15, czw o godzinie 00:59 -0600, Sean Brady pisze: I have 3 Firefox windows open and 2 terminals on 2 desktops- with the overview all the Firefox and all the terminals look identical. I have to mouse over each one to get to what I am looking for. That's not very efficient at all,

Re: Scroll to zoom in/out.

2010-04-15 Thread Ryan Peters
On 04/14/2010 09:29 AM, Rovanion Luckey wrote: I don't understand why everyone wants to run GNOME Shell with a dock. It clutters up your screen, uses a lot of memory (especially Docky), and it just isn't necessary at all. First you make the statement that a Dock is in no way needed.

Re: Scroll to zoom in/out.

2010-04-15 Thread Ryan Peters
On 04/14/2010 08:57 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: Dnia 2010-04-14, śro o godzinie 08:35 -0500, Ryan Peters pisze: GNOME Shell doesn't need a dock, never will, and if you want a different way to access your applications, just use a dock yourself or wait until someone develops an add-on for A

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Ryan Peters
On 04/15/2010 07:40 AM, Rovanion Luckey wrote: Good day, I have an idea to present that I would like to call the PieThrower. The idea resolvs around providing the user with an easy and fast interface to "throw" application windows to different workspaces. The inspiration came

Re: Finding and Reminding, tech issues, 3.0 and beyond

2010-04-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: On 15/04/10 12:32, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 11:31 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: On 10/04/10 22:10, Owen Taylor wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 11:43 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 18:09 -0400,

Re: Finding and Reminding, tech issues, 3.0 and beyond

2010-04-15 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 10:34 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote: Is it entirely true that RDF/Sparql, whilst giving us the power to model stuff better, is harder to use and makes things more difficult to devs who dont know it I had always imagined there would be a client library that did not

Re: Do/not implement Dock.

2010-04-15 Thread Joern Konopka
2010/4/15 Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com Dnia 2010-04-15, czw o godzinie 08:44 -0400, Mark Curtis pisze: But Sean is commenting on how they all look similar IN THE OVERVIEW. Let's test it: http://codex.xiaoka.com/~smoku/tmp/GnomeShell.png 3 Opera windows, 2 terminal windows. EASILY

RE: Do/not implement Dock.

2010-04-15 Thread Mark Curtis
Usability first, EyeCandy later... EXACTLY!! People like myself,Sean Brady, and the countless other people that have commented on this whenever this sort of thread pops up in the mailing list, feel the way you switch apps now in GNOME shell IS A USABILITY ISSUE, that needs to be fixed. The

Re: Tiny application buttons again (was: Do/not implement Dock.)

2010-04-15 Thread Dylan McCall
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote: Usability first, EyeCandy later... EXACTLY!! People like myself,Sean Brady, and the countless other people that have commented on this whenever this sort of thread pops up in the mailing list, feel the way you switch

RE: Application menu / switcher

2010-04-15 Thread Mark Curtis
Subject: Application menu / switcher From: to...@xiaoka.com To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:04:17 +0200 Dnia 2010-04-15, czw o godzinie 11:35 -0400, Mark Curtis pisze: but are they really necessary on a Day to Day Base? Me thinks not ;) I don't use

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Rovanion Luckey
2010/4/15 Kaj-Ivar van der Wijst kaj-i...@vanderwijst.com Thanks for the good idea. I really like the concept. However, this isn't very useful when there are three or more desktops in linear view. Does anyone has other ideas to solve this issue? You could instead of arrows have each

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Tanner Doshier
I really like the looks of your right-click menu Thorsten Wilms. +1 Thanks for the good idea. I really like the concept. However, this isn't very useful when there are three or more desktops in linear view. Does anyone has other ideas to solve this issue? You could instead of arrows

Re: One-click window switcher.

2010-04-15 Thread Siegfried-A. Gevatter
2010/4/15 Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com: The problem is: Current Gnome Shell lacks one-click active window switcher. Let's think how could we solve it. Actually you can switch windows with only one click; the Activities button features a hot corner so you don't need to click on it.

Re: Finding and Reminding, tech issues, 3.0 and beyond

2010-04-15 Thread Owen Taylor
(Replying selectively - lots of stuff snipped that I agree with) On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 21:18 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 18:09 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: I've attempted below to extract out some of the technical bits from

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2010-04-15, czw o godzinie 18:20 +0200, Rovanion Luckey pisze: Thanks for the good idea. I really like the concept. However, this isn't very useful when there are three or more desktops in linear view. Does anyone has other ideas to solve this issue? You

Re: Application menu / switcher

2010-04-15 Thread Tanner Doshier
BIG BIG BIG plus +1 on the idea from Tomasz Sterna!! This: http://codex.xiaoka.com/~smoku/tmp/app_menu_mockup.png http://codex.xiaoka.com/%7Esmoku/tmp/app_menu_mockup.png is the way to go! I was just typing a long winded response advocating doing exactly this. I actually already sent a

New grid layout with Up/Down

2010-04-15 Thread Alexandre Kaspar
Hi everybody, I'm trying to modify the js files so to have working CtrlAlt Up / Down to switch between up/down layouts as well. I managed to change between workspaces : ... ... and here a piece of the part of windowManager.js : ... workspaceDown: function(currentIndex) { let N =

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Apoorva Sharma
I believe that the suggestion is for moving windows quickly out of the current workspace. For organizing windows if a situation where there are many workspaces (i.e. moving a window two workspaces down), the overview should be used. A pie menu would be an addition to the current interface,

Re: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Apoorva Sharma
If you really needed to place the window on a specific workspace, then you should use the overview. If we add this functionality to the pie menu, we would sacrifice the ability to throw widows out of the way, and I believe that is the main benefit of such a menu-it allows users to quckly

Re: One-click window switcher.

2010-04-15 Thread Apoorva Sharma
The problem with switching windows through the overlay is that it floods the user with all sorts of information, thus breaking the workflow. Swithcing windows shouldn't involve breaking the workflow. On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Siegfried-A. Gevatter siggi.gevat...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Finding and Reminding, tech issues, 3.0 and beyond

2010-04-15 Thread Apoorva Sharma
There has been discussion here about making the desktop just another view for recent/relavant files. However, I believe this can be extended to include a view of the Task Pooper. Basically, the Desktop would have two sections: - Things that I have been doing recently - Things that I plan

Fwd: Window management pie menu

2010-04-15 Thread Apoorva Sharma
Sorry, I forgot to reply to all -- Forwarded message -- From: Apoorva Sharma appi2...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Window management pie menu To: Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com wrote: