Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-02-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:07 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: Well this goes a bit off-topic the window control issue but the concept[1] of finding and reminding is simply not yet implemented in 3.0. Should be in 3.2 hopefully though. You can see this work-in-progress here:

Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-02-24 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 16:34 -0500, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: While the close operation is common, it's not frequent, and therefore might not require visual representation on-screen all the time. Huh, I use the Close button pretty frequently. I guess I'm still scarred from when Esc didn't

Re: A few comments regarding Gnome-shell

2011-03-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 10:52 +0100, David Prieto wrote: - I have noticed there is an Apps menu which you can use to browse all installed apps, but there isn't a similar Places menu where you can browse your favourited folders, external volumes and recently used files. Wouldn't such a menu make

Re: new calendar idea for gnome-shell

2011-03-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 13:49 +0200, Pierre Benz wrote: I know that some work is going into the use of Zeitgeist wrt searching, but I was thinking there must be a nice way of using the idea behind the Activity Journal and incorporating it directly into the shell. This is actually happening!

Re: new calendar idea for gnome-shell

2011-03-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 08:04 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: I still think the Calendar should be a separate tab on the overview that does all that and more, and that clicking on the date/time would bring you into the overview and take you to that tab. But I'm not a designer. You don't need

Designers (was: Re: new calendar idea for gnome-shell)

2011-03-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 13:17 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Thanks for that, I feel uncomfortable when people on this mailing lists think there is some cabal of designers on an ivory tower drinking ambrosia and sniffing glue. Even though there isn't an iron-fisted cabal of designers, we *do*

Zeitgeist and Gnome-shell

2011-04-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, all, As many of you know, there is a project called Zeitgeist that is somehow being integrated into Gnome-shell. In this mail I intend to paint a picture of what we want to do. * What is Zeitgeist? Zeitgeist is ~/.recently-used on steroids. It is a service that keeps a time-ordered log of

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 17:28 +0100, Onyeibo Oku wrote: I have suggested this in the past, but not because of left handed people (or anything of that sort) but for sake of proximity to the categories and, more so, the new workspace panel(pane). It will also minimize mouse movements across the

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 10:08 +0200, Elia Cogodi wrote: Very interesting mail, Elia. You have some very good points. - Instead of the application grid being triggered by a tab-like button, it could be a special dash item. Always last, named something like all applications or more applications,

Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: How does your patch handle the case when the user clicks overview with no open windows? Same as before - you get a blank overview. It would be good to show no windows are open or something. Federico

Terminology (was: Re: Some small ideas for the Shell Panel and Overview)

2011-04-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 07:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 14:45 +0300, John Stowers wrote: In my use of the shell thus far I have *never* used the application menu. Has anyone? once, when I wanted to test gnome-games and couldn't remember the name of anything in

Re: Why not open Activities at start?

2011-04-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 12:30 +0200, David Prieto wrote: I've noticed that the Activities overlay opens automatically whenever you close all windows from a workspace - which actually makes a lot of sense, because in order to do anything you need to open it anyway. My doubt is, why doesn't it

Re: Designing Finding and Reminding

2011-05-03 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 16:24 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: What about privacy? Maybe certain activities you don't want showing up.. for instance, if you're at a conference you don't want people behind you knowing what you were looking at. That kind of thing? Respecting private browsing

Re: Designing Finding and Reminding

2011-05-03 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 01:46 +0200, Korbé wrote: - An entry in the Application Menu (in the top panel of GS) nammed Forget thisvactivity or a button in the title bar of the window. When you choose it, the system don't record what you do. See my mail to Sri; I put in a similar example

Re: Designing Finding and Reminding

2011-05-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:08 +0100, Allan Day wrote: I'm not convinced that a journal view is beneficial. Why do I need to know which day or week I touched something? Most of the time, I just want to see what I handled recently (trip and slip) and what I've marked to come back to (the grip).

Narrative for Finding and Reminding

2011-05-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
It's Monday, your first school day after a short vacation from the Easter holiday. Before vacation, you had been working on writing several reports about your recent field research on the coiling habits of the boa constrictor. After blowing away a thin layer of dust from your computer (what's

Re: Narrative for Finding and Reminding

2011-05-10 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 02:29 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: Wall of text incoming. Thanks for the detailed comments, Jasper. This is very useful. OK, it seems you have two different concepts lumped under Reminders. In something like this, it seems like it's an automatic aggregation that

Paper prototypes for Finding and Reminding

2011-05-12 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, everyone, I finally got off my ass and finished the paper prototypes for Finding and Reminder. This is the journal and reminders that I posted about the other day in the Narrative for Finding and Reminding thread. Since posting pictures to this list is awkward, I've put the narrative and

Re: Narrative for Finding and Reminding

2011-05-12 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 03:50 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: [Incoming email doesn't go into the reminders] OK. Is there some place unread email *can* go? Your mail program's Inbox, as always. I want the Reminders area to be a) completely under your control; b) not a constant firehose. It's

Re: Dialog box locked to under title bar. Can we make it fade?

2011-05-12 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:47 +1200, John Stowers wrote: This happens 10s of times per day for me when reading/managing papers. Yeah. Don't you hate Citeseer for its stupid filenames? :) Fortunately addressing this particular annoyance seems to be the goal of the 'Document Centric GNOME'

Comments about Finding and Reminding

2011-06-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Yesterday on IRC, Allan Day kindly gave me some feedback about the Finding and Reminding prototypes that I posted a while ago [1]. With his permission, I'll reply here in the list, to keep it referenced. (03:21:48 PM) aday: federico: so about your finding and reminding thingamy (03:22:21

Re: Comments about Finding and Reminding

2011-06-03 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:25 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: I agree with Allan's concern that the overview might not be the right place for managing things. It's meant to find, click and close. Dragging a file to the reminders in the overview would really be painful if you need to click and

Re: Sorry, but Gnome Shell is like hemorrhoids.

2011-06-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 22:08 +0100, Maximilian Eberl wrote: If one has it, one wants to get rid of it as soon as possible. Here, have some medicine. +---+ |\ | \ | ---+ |

Re: System Settings

2011-07-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 10:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: The fact that extension authors are itching to dump their preferences into the control center is actually a good argument for keeping that door locked. That's why they are *extensions*; the user is responsible for what he needs and for

Re: Gnome 3 is not ready for netbooks

2011-07-15 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 23:26 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: what I personally don't understand is why are you complaining on the shell list instead of filing bugs against the apps that have windows too high to fit. how is the shell, or Gnome 3 for that matter, responsible for apps behaving

Re: Experience feedback

2011-08-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 22:07 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:47:26PM +0200, Rovanion Luckey wrote: It already works, there is no dark magic behind having a visible Power Off button. The Gnome Shell UI however seems to wish it could communicate that the user has to press

Re: Auto hide, title bar, power off, date

2011-08-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 13:44 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: $ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true Ooooh. This is saving me so many clicks a day! Thanks! Federico ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org

Re: Suggestion: Remove the Window Title Bar

2011-10-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 10:44 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote: On vie, 2011-10-07 at 10:29 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote: I think most of the underlying tech is here already: unity use a protocol through which the applications describes its menu. Then it is up to the shell to decide how to

Re: Suggestion: Remove the Window Title Bar

2011-10-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 12:47 -0700, Gavin Engel wrote: Federico, that is a very interesting read. One thing I wanted to point out is that there is a pseudo-Global-menu extension for GNOME: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/get-global-menu-in-gnome-shell.html What do you think? Wow, that's