Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Barry Margolin wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] But that's not really a good analogy. Combining two programs is not just making references, you actually merge parts of one program into a copy of the

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 11:43 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] But that's not really a good analogy.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNUtian logic in action. GNUtian David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One can download a copy of GPL'd

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GNUtian logic in action. GNUtian David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One can download a copy of GPL'd work (without any I accept)

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
GNUtian logic in action. GNUtian David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 11:43 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Barry Margolin

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: One can download a copy of GPL'd work (without any I accept) directly to a compilation on a tangible medium. In source code or object code form (both forms are wildly available). Of course, you don't have to agree when your rights

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
GNUtian logic in action. GNUtian Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 14:07 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: One can download a copy of GPL'd work (without any I accept) directly to a compilation on a tangible medium. In source code or object code form (both forms are

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the sake of nailing stupid dak once again... David Kastrup wrote: [...] But copyright law does not allow you redistribution of copies. The GPL grants you additional rights. You are free not to accept those additional rights. quote

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Lee Hollaar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Furthermore, 17 USC 117 entitles the owner of a lawfully made copy (source code see above) to distribute those additional copies (in object code form see above) along with the copy from which such copies were prepared. That's not really

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] But copyright law does not allow you redistribution of copies. The GPL grants you additional rights. You are free not to accept those additional rights. quote source=http://tinyurl.com/3c2n2 [cacd.uscourts.gov] Adobe characterizes each transaction

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 16:55 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: form, you can reproduce it in object code form (as an additional copy per 17 USC 117) using compilation process (as in computing), link it together with other stuff and run. It's all allowed per

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Lee Hollaar wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Furthermore, 17 USC 117 entitles the owner of a lawfully made copy (source code see above) to distribute those additional copies (in object code form see above) along with the copy from which such copies were

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 16:55 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: form, you can reproduce it in object code form (as an additional copy per 17 USC 117) using compilation process (as in computing), link it together with other stuff and run. It's all allowed per statute. Folks, read what he

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 19:19 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: You ask how a copy would be acquired without accepting the GPL. Irrelevant. You still don't have the right to make copies and distribute The right to distribute lawfully made copies (without

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 19:19 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: You ask how a copy would be acquired without accepting the GPL. Irrelevant. You still don't have the right to make copies and distribute those copies unless you are authorized, even if you got the software as a gift :) If the author

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
In this case, it seems that I and the FSF disagree. Prohibiting staff from distributing free software is the same as a NDA, in my opinion. No, it is circumscribing what they can do as agents of the company, with the property of the company. One very important issue is

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Isaac
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 11:50:13 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite frankly, I would be surprised if any copyright holder cared the least whether I ever got around to annotating source code modules that I don't distribute or whether some program on my system failed

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-02 Thread Isaac
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:52:15 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not what you asked, you asked if you could combine non-free software with a GPLed work internally. The GPL does not allow this, so you have no permissions to do so be it for your private use