Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Barry Margolin wrote: [...] OK, so why are you inventing new issues, rather than addressing the topic of the thread? The OP said a derivative work combined from software licensed under the Apache Software Licence 2.0 and software licensed under the GNU GPL 2.0. This sounds to me like he's

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
Are you really disputing the fact that one can combine non-free work with a GPLed program? Yes. Then you really ought to read the GPL. Specially the clauses about not being able to put restrictions on a user, i.e. making the software non-free. Is software on my home system that

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Alexander Terekhov
GNUtian logic in action. GNUtian Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:00 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 19:19 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: You ask how a copy would be acquired without accepting the GPL.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread David Kastrup
Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not what you asked, you asked if you could combine non-free software with a GPLed work internally. The GPL does not allow this, so you have no permissions to do so be it for your private use or not. Cite me a provision

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
A system incorporating a GPL-covered program is an extended version of that program. The GPL says that any extended version of the program must be released under the GPL if it is released at all. And it is not released. That's the key.

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 11:28 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:00 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 19:19 +0100, Alexander Terekhov wrote: You ask how a copy would be

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
And if I let you run a program from a CD of mine, the CD then becomes yours? Because CDs can be copied? CDs are still physical like cars. Apples vs rocks. You'll be hard put to run a program without a physical copy. You are speaking about duplicating a physical entity,

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-03 Thread Isaac
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:41:31 +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh nonsense. Only if they legally acquired a copy. Nobody is allowed to steal software just because _if_ it would be released, it would have to be under a free license. First of all, you can't steal