Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread nipponmail
RMS could do it. Alot of what is required in software is willpower to do the work. RMS has such. Though he once talked about how he felt needed, but not wanted. I wish he could find a person that would supply what is missing; maybe his friends could help? (Perhaps even international friends).

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread nipponmail
With linux-libre one is still beholden to the decisions of those in control of the upstream linux project. In the past, during the 90s and first half-decade of the 2000s these were hackers, who had self-agency, and thus could be trusted to atleast do what is best for programmer-users such as

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
Hi, On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:05:46 PM EET nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > RMS could do it. Alot of what is required in software is willpower to do > the work. RMS has such. That's not about RMS. This is a job for a few guys. Well, just to be more clear, if you want a well designed,

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread دانیال بهزادی
There is not only Freedom concerns about the future of Linux, but also technical and practical concerns about a monolithic kernel in the age of IoT. We need a Free Software kernel to power supercomputers, nanocomputers and anything between. در November 12, 2019 8:53:42 AM UTC، Jean Louis نوشت:

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
Hi, On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 3:39:00 PM EET دانیال بهزادی wrote: > There is not only Freedom concerns about the future of Linux, but also > technical and practical concerns about a monolithic kernel in the age of > IoT. We need a Free Software kernel to power supercomputers, nanocomputers >

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
Hi, IMO GNU Hurd is a good thing to have, btw at the moment Hurd architecture isn't so good: - it's a microkernel, isn't it? if so, why mach still contains drivers ... why not to use a 3rd microkernel generation ... etc ... - MIG ... it's an ugly thing as I understood GNU hurd development

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Jean Louis
* Alexander Vdolainen [2019-11-12 14:14]: > however, if we're going to speak about GNU system we're limited with a few > components: > - GNU userland - ok it exists > - GNU toolchain - yep it works > - GNU kernel/system services - ... nope > I know linux kernel just works, but it's not a GNU

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Svante Signell
Hello, below are incomplete answers to your questions and some links. Many facts are supplied by Samuel Thibault, the main GNU/Hurd developer. Since he is very busy, he does not want to reply directly due to lack of time to answer any follow-up questions. Thanks! On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 10:44

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread nipponmail
Will 64 bit userland come in time? Also will you implement the hardening features of KALSR (net bsd) / GrSecurity-PaX (who invented them). These are necessary features today: otherwise you get rooted quickly. Hurd is needed, Linux is out of the hands of the hackers now. Linus bent the knee

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread orbulon
So where exactly is Hurd in development? I checked and it seems to be available in x86 but not x64. What would it take for one or more people to get it up to date with the latest hardware? Nov 12, 2019, 12:02 by nipponm...@firemail.cc: > With linux-libre one is still beholden to the decisions

Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-12 Thread nipponmail
Why does Gnome get to have power over what was the GIMP toolkit? Why do they get to userp and control us? Why do they control the software ecosystem? Who made them boss? no it got fatter with the GTK3 transition just like xfce. remember GTK3 is only useful for people who make software that

What we need for the Internet of Stings

2019-11-12 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Most of the devices offered for the "internet of things" are designed to mistreat

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-12 Thread Jean Louis
* Alexander Vdolainen [2019-11-13 02:32]: > Hi, > > On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:05:46 PM EET nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > > RMS could do it. Alot of what is required in software is willpower to do > > the work. RMS has such. > That's not about RMS. This is a job for a few guys. Surely,

Re: What we need for the Internet of Stings

2019-11-12 Thread Nala Ginrut
Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Most of the devices offered for the "internet of