Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
Hi, On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:28:15 AM EET Jean Louis wrote: > * Alexander Vdolainen [2019-11-13 02:32]: > > Hi, > > > > On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 10:05:46 PM EET nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > > > RMS could do it. Alot of what is required in software is willpower to do > > > the

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 1:06:12 PM EET Jean Louis wrote: > * Alexander Vdolainen [2019-11-13 16:08]: > > > Minix was made by Professor Tannenbaum. Minix 2.0 worked well and I > > > remember using it. Now there is Minix 3 as full operating system. > > > > And the most successful use is

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 16:36 +0530, Jean Louis wrote: > > It is time to make fully free FSF endorsed GNU/Hurd > distribution. As you might know, Guix is working on to also support GNU/Hurd. Maybe you can make contributions there (in addition to Debian GNU/Hurd).

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Alexander Vdolainen
On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 1:50:52 AM EET Svante Signell wrote: > Hello, Hi, > > below are incomplete answers to your questions and some links. Many facts > are supplied by Samuel Thibault, the main GNU/Hurd developer. Since he is > very busy, he does not want to reply directly due to lack

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
After them stabbing RMS in the back, who would be motivated to have anything to do with them? Also they are a systemd distribution: so are directed by the decisions of IBM (RedHat), not hackers, in the end. On 2019-11-13 11:31, Svante Signell wrote: On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 16:36 +0530, Jean

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
I must concur: 64 bit is needed. On 2019-11-13 10:53, Alexander Vdolainen wrote:

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system
I disagree that they betrayed RMS. I still like the Guix contributors, probably even more now. Your systemd statement is confusing because they made their own service program called shepherd. On 11/13/2019 01:14 PM, nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > After them stabbing RMS in the back, who would

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Svante Signell [2019-11-13 17:01]: > On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 16:36 +0530, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > It is time to make fully free FSF endorsed GNU/Hurd > > distribution. > > As you might know, Guix is working on to also support GNU/Hurd. Maybe you can > make contributions there (in addition to

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
shepherd You will have to advertise that. Most users are under the impression the Guix is a systemd distribution. Calling for the removal of RMS from his own project /Gnu/ when he was under enormous social pressure over nothing ("u r pedo!" -- the "community" (note: all actual hackers

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 20:37 +, nipponm...@firemail.cc wrote: > > > Anyway... Hurd needs 64 bit support to take over where Linux has decided > to abdicate. We are happy to review patches. Thanks!

Re: Fwd: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
Yes, as the Gnome (not GNOME since 2012: when they _left_ GNU) developers scream in a high falsetto voice "DEPRECIATED! HAHAHAH!". I did compile GTK1 recently it took all day and would not compile with current GCC without a patch. Distros don't ship it because DDDPPRECCCIATED

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
Svante Signell: don't give me nightmares: I'm a videogame programmer and attorney; not a systems programmer. Though in the books I've read they atleast gave you more registers in AMD64. Right now an inflection point exists: if you do the work you can seize the day. Linus has abdicated: the

Fwd: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system)

2019-11-13 Thread carl hansen
pesky Reply/ReplyAll error... -- Forwarded message - From: carl hansen Date: Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Users fear GNOME will abolish GTK2, and that Gnome and Redhat have a monopoly over the Gnu+Linux world (thus control over the entire system) To: On Tue, Nov

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > With linux-libre one is still beholden to the decisions of those in > control

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread nipponmail
I'm not making it up: the users think Guix is a systemd distro: you need to make it clear that it is not (note: in the init system debates GNU DMD was spoken of glowingly, they don't know it changed names either). Perhaps put on the main page: Init system: shepard (old name: GNU DMD). Many

Re: RMS: users request you perhaps program HURD: they fear the path the linux kernel is going.

2019-11-13 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le mercredi 13 novembre 2019, 19:23:43 CET Kete via Discussions about the development of the GNU system a écrit : > I disagree that they betrayed RMS. I still like the Guix contributors, > probably even more now. Your systemd statement is confusing because they > made their own service program