Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-07-04 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Monday 28 June 2010 at 7:12:02 PM, in mid:1613819.20100628191...@my_localhost, I wrote: On Monday 28 June 2010 at 4:41:16 PM, in mid:3b0f685a-8d39-4b8c-ac4e-d4e81ca4e...@jabberwocky.com, David Shaw wrote: auto-key-locate

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-29 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: I presently consider synchronization broken. If there were only one network of keyservers out there, and I didn't have to search multiple places when trying to sign or request a key, I might think otherwise, but this is not the case. See my alternate

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-28 Thread John Clizbe
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: I'm also not aware of how servers synchronize, but if it's a different protocol than the standard single-key-request protocol, then there's an easy metric to say don't hand out keys with this flag via this protocol. For SKS (taken from the current SKS

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-28 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: However, you raise another question: How does a keyserver know who is uploading the key? At the moment, it doesn't. That would need to be addressed if you want keyservers to be able

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-28 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Monday 28 June 2010 at 4:41:16 PM, in mid:3b0f685a-8d39-4b8c-ac4e-d4e81ca4e...@jabberwocky.com, David Shaw wrote: auto-key-locate hkp://pgp.mit.edu hkp://subkeys.pgp.net hkp://some.other.server.etc ldap://even.a.ldap.server.works

No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
All, How difficult would it be to propose some kind of extension flag to the PGP key format that in essence says don't publish me to a keyserver. Note that I'm asking from a technical point of view, not a social (i.e. making servers support it) or IETF one (insert bikesheds here). My

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: All, How difficult would it be to propose some kind of extension flag to the PGP key format that in essence says don't publish me to a keyserver. Note that I'm asking from a technical point of view, not a social (i.e. making

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: All, How difficult would it be to propose some kind of extension flag to the PGP key format that in essence says don't publish me to a keyserver. Note that I'm asking from a technical point

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: All, How difficult would it be to propose some kind of extension flag to the PGP key format that in essence says don't

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread Grant Olson
On 6/27/10 4:27 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: How difficult would it be to propose some kind of extension flag to the PGP key format that in essence says don't publish me to a

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: It's a flag that can be set on a key user ID, similar to cipher or compression preferences. Run --edit-key on a key, and enter showpref or pref. You will probably see a mention of Keyserver no-modify (or no-ks-modify). You can turn it on and off with

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread John Clizbe
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: The ones I've seen have enough awareness of what's in a key to pull a key apart and determine who's signed it, when, and when it's expired. Is there more than that to read these bits? Again:step zero may be to determine what the internal format is.

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread Grant Olson
On 6/27/10 9:23 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: At the moment, it doesn't. That would need to be addressed if you want keyservers to be able to reject a no-ks-modify key. One way to do it is to only accept key updates that are signed by the key

Re: No-Keyserver (and other) flags on keys

2010-06-27 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, David Shaw wrote: On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: It's effectively a no-op though, as no server supports it. I'm looking into making mods to at least one server type (we run