Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-27 Thread Heather Morrison
Copyright has benefits for authors as well as publishers. Moral rights (see Berne 6bis http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/text.jsp?file_id=283698) are retained by authors even after transfer of copyright. These include attribution rights and the right to object to certain modifications. Examples

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-27 Thread David Wojick
The point is that the dominant role of copyright in scholarly publishing is to benefit the publisher, to the detriment of OA, not the author. In fact it is argued that OA benefits the author. This is why Wallinsky's simple OA proposal is to reduce the copyright term to the minimum needed to

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-26 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
Yes, in theory the publisher has all the rights and can do what it wants with respect to translations. But then you should check with your publisher to see what kind of translation rights agreement the publisher uses when licensing foreign rights. Very often, if not universally, that contract

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-26 Thread Couture, Marc
Jennifer wrote : > In terms of restricting where one may publish, doesn't the usual institutional tenure and promotion policy do that as well, if more subtly? There are definite expectations of where one may publish, as I understand it. (Not being tenure-track myself.) > That's right on point

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-26 Thread Jennifer Heise
I have some questions in relation to these assertions: I'm unclear how signing your copyright over to a publisher in toto (which is basically what I was asked to do when publishing with Haworth) would still allow you the right to object to derivative works. Surely only the copyright owner can

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-26 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
I cannot cite specific examples of works published OA and then badly translated. However, I do know of instances where books we published at Penn State Press were licensed to foreign publishers that then proceeded to have them translated, and in some of these cases our authors did not like the

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
I cannot cite specific examples of works published OA and then badly translated. However, I do know of instances where books we published at Penn State Press were licensed to foreign publishers that then proceeded to have them translated, and in some of these cases our authors did not like the

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
I was talking about Professors, not Presses. The AUP, as it is now called, no longer the AAUP, has no statement about academic freedom per se, but of course has spoken out on many occasions about free speech as it affects publishing. (I myself served on the AAP's Freedom to Read Committee for

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Heather Morrison
There are at least 2 associations with the acronym AAUP, the American Association of University Professors and the American Association of University Presses. Academic freedom touches on publishing, but is broader in scope, so both associations likely have statements and experience that

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Couture, Marc
Hi all, I'll discuss here two major issues discussed in this thread: the freedom (1) in the choice of journals in which to publish and (2) in the choice of a user licence when publishing. I don't think it's very useful to discuss these issues on the basis of what exactly does - or don't -

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Heather Morrison
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Heather Morrison
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Danny Kingsley
Hi all, I would very much welcome a concrete example (or two..) of the scenario described below where a work has been taken and distorted to the extent an author would actually wish to have their name removed as an originator of the work. It is a scenario often used by people concerned about

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-25 Thread Heather Morrison
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
Universities in the US under copyright law could, if they so chose, to specify that all faculty writings done in the course of their employment that relate to their academic careers are to be regarded as "work made for hire." Under that regime academic authors would have no rights at all with

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 7:26 PM, SANFORD G THATCHER wrote: > So, Danny, let me ask if you are ok with funders requiring authors to > publish > under a CC BY license and waive all rights they otherwise would have to > have > input into how and where their writings get translated and

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread David Wojick
I cannot speak for Danny but this seems to confuse intellectual freedom, which the term "academic freedom" usually means, with freedom from regulation. Academics are governed by a great many rules, each of which may restrict their freedom in some way. None of this necessarily has anything to

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread Klaus Graf
Repeating wrong answers makes them not right. We have discussed this several times and I cannot see the sense to do this once again. I have made my point clear in 2012: https://jlsc-pub.org/articles/abstract/10.7710/2162-3309.1043/ Klaus Graf 2018-03-24 20:26 GMT+01:00 SANFORD G THATCHER

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
So, Danny, let me ask if you are ok with funders requiring authors to publish under a CC BY license and waive all rights they otherwise would have to have input into how and where their writings get translated and how and where their works are republished (e.g., in edited form that distorts the

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] On Academic Freedom

2018-03-24 Thread David Wojick
In particular, the fact that present copyright law enables one to make money from one's journal articles is not part of academic freedom. Also note that Willinsky's copyright reform proposal does not create a journal selection limitation, because it applies to all journals. The proposal is to