[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Gerritsma, Wouter wouter.gerrit...@wur.nlwrote: @Stevan, Yes Stevan the Dutch secretary of education his letter has quite a bit of the Finch tone in it. But there are also some opportunities in his letter for repositories. Dekker actually asks for exact

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Bosman, J.M.
the environment before printing this e-mail From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Stevan Harnad Sent: zondag 17 november 2013 12:50 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I On Sat

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Peter Suber
I hope that Dutch researchers will seize the opportunity that Wouter Gerritsma describes, and save the Netherlands from repeating the mistake of the UK. Note, however, that the Netherlands has flirted with gold OA mandates at least twice before, and in both cases prior to the Finch report in the

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Stevan Harnad
:* zondag 17 november 2013 12:50 *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Gerritsma, Wouter wouter.gerrit...@wur.nl wrote: @Stevan, Yes Stevan the Dutch secretary

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Could we make sure that we do not use Gold too quickly as a synonym for author-pay Gold. I meet ever more frequently with this confusion and I think it deeply affects the quality of our analyses and strategies. Jean-Claude Guédon Le dimanche 17 novembre 2013 à 17:38 -0500, Peter Suber a écrit :

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-16 Thread Gerritsma, Wouter
@Stevan, Yes Stevan the Dutch secretary of education his letter has quite a bit of the Finch tone in it. But there are also some opportunities in his letter for repositories. Dekker actually asks for exact figures on OA in the Netherlands. To obtain insight into the situation I request the

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-16 Thread Heather Morrison
Stevan is absolutely right that all we need is immediate deposit in archives. Gold policies are counter-productive. Gold policies designed to protect the interests of large high-profit commercial publishers are particularly likely to be counter-productive. One reason is that any such mandate