[GOAL] Re: Fwd: Dark Side of Openness: Identity Theft and Fraudulent Postings By Predatory OA Publishers

2012-12-19 Thread Ulrich Herb
I tend to agree with Thomas. Of course I appreciate Jeffrey Beals list and his work very much, but we should not forget that predatory publishing is also a practice of toll access publishers - or let's say of publishing itself. And I even think it is more widespread in toll access than in open

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Jan Velterop
...they [start-up subscription journals, or as Stevan calls them bottom-rung journals] were not subscribed to by institutions if there was no empty subject niche they were filling, nor before they had established their track-records for quality. Where has Stevan been the last 4 decades? The

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
a. I agree with Jan Velterop that the Fools-Gold Junk-Journal start-ups are not a major problem and will be weeded out with time. b. I even agree that authors (and referees) that fall for journal scam get what they deserve, and perhaps learn a useful lesson from it. c. I also agree that the

[GOAL] Re: Dark Side of Openness: Identity Theft and Fraudulent Postings By Predatory OA Publishers

2012-12-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
There is no question but that there are junk subscription journals, just as there are junk OA journals. But it does not help -- and only compounds confusion -- to conflate the opportunistic practices of established subscription publishers with the predatory practices of the growing spate of

[GOAL] December issue of ScieCom info

2012-12-19 Thread Ingegerd Rabow
[Apologies for cross-postings] Welcome to the December 2012 issue of ScieCom info. Nordic - Baltic Forum for Scientific Communication. --- TABLE OF CONTENTS News Two new publication funds established in Norway during the last few days. More info

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Dana Roth
Re: There are sooo many subscription journals occupying the same niche - sometimes partially, but often enough completely - and yet they are all subscribed to, widely or narrowly, but economically sufficiently, on the strength of the adage that you can't afford to miss anything in your

[GOAL] Re: Further Fallout From Finch Folly

2012-12-19 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Are many of the new commercial journals actually �subscribed to� or are they added to existing packages in hopes they will capture sufficient market share to continue? � my assumption is that the concept of loss leaders is NOT operable for society published journals. While I don't think