Re: Jean-Claude Gu�don is wrong, and so is Zinath Rehana

2008-10-03 Thread Alma Swan
I've changed the subject line for this message and I hope the moderator of this forum will let it stand even though it breaks the thread. I do not wish to be associated in any way with the sentiments of those previous comments about the management of this list. No doubt Jean-Claude will also wish

Re: Question re work on relationships between insitutional and disciplinary repositories.

2008-10-03 Thread Muriel Foulonneau
Hi, The HAL archive in France which hosts a number of institutional repositories has a similar system for several years with arXiv (researchers can tick a box and the paper is submitted to arXiv as well). Connections also exist with PubMed Central and ADS for instance.

Moderate censorship

2008-10-03 Thread ZielinskiC
Heaven help me for thus wandering between the trenches but there is no doubt that Stevan is an uncommonly combative polemicist, as anyone who has challenged his perceptions of orthodoxy knows. Still, one of the guilty pleasures of lurking on AMSCI has been to watch the fisticuffs. As a

RE: Jean-Claude Gu�don is wrong, and so is Zinath Rehana

2008-10-03 Thread Eloy Rodrigues
I will save the time of the subscribers of this list by just saying that I completely subscribe Alma Swan message, and their sensible and reasonable points. Eloy Rodrigues Universidade do Minho - Serviços de Documentação Campus de Gualtar - 4710 - 057 Braga Telefone: + 351 253604150; Fax: +

Re: Nihil obstat

2008-10-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Andy Powell andy.pow...@eduserv.org.uk wrote: To be fair, I think Jean-Claude is primarily accusing you (Stevan) of summarising his arguments back to the list incorrectly rather than censorship per se, No, actually I think he thought I had not posted his

oderation and Censorship

2008-10-03 Thread Andrew A . Adams
I fully support Stevan as moderator of the AmSci OA list. The job of a moderator is to censor. There is no other word to describe the job they are asked to do. Censorship is not always a bad thing, provided it is applied appropriately. Stevan has disagreed with me a number of times on the focus of

Re: Censorship

2008-10-03 Thread Sally Morris (Morris Associates)
It seems pertinent to ask why my own posting on the subject has not been forwarded to the list... Sally Sally Morris Consultant, Morris Associates (Publishing Consultancy) South House, The Street Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK Tel: +44(0)1903 871286 Fax: +44(0)8701 202806 Email:

Re: Advocacy - case studies on citation rate increases

2008-10-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:43 AM, S Nieminen s.niemi...@bradford.ac.uk wrote: Hello All, Does anyone have concrete examples of where openly accessible papers in an institutional repository have increased their citation numbers from pre-IR days? I am putting together some advocacy materials and

Re: Question re work on relationships between insitutional and disciplinary repositories.

2008-10-03 Thread R . John Robertson
Hello again, If I can add a quick addendum to my list of UK-based projects looking at the interaction between institutional and subject repositories, a colleague has reminded me of another relevant project. 'Options review of the ways in which institutional and subject repositories can

Re: Nihil obstat

2008-10-03 Thread Jean-Claude Gu�don
[ The following text is in the utf-8 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] The truth is on both sides. I did believe Stevan had not posted my message because it showed up late in my in-box. At the

Re: Jean-Claude Gu�don is wrong, and so is Zinath Rehana

2008-10-03 Thread Jean-Claude Gu�don
[ The following text is in the utf-8 character set. ] [ Your display is set for the iso-8859-1 character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] I believe that my position is now clear. The long delay in seeing my message appear in my own in-boxled me to believe that

Re: Question re work on relationships between insitutional and disciplinary repositories.

2008-10-03 Thread Leslie Carr
On 3 Oct 2008, at 08:27, Muriel Foulonneau wrote: The HAL archive in France which hosts a number of institutional repositories has a similar system for several years with arXiv (researchers can tick a box and the paper is submitted to arXiv as well). Connections

orphan works

2008-10-03 Thread Bernard Lang
Hi, I do not know whether the mail I am replying to went to the whole list, but it is written like it was intended to. * Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com note le 03-10-08 : I have several times returned the postings of Bernard Lang to him as not relevant to the American Scientist Open Access