Re: Open Access Doubts

2011-10-29 Thread Eric F . Van de Velde
Stevan:Remember, I am an OA supporter, though I am getting discouraged about the slow progress. You raise good points, but I think you are the one conflating issues. I will try to keep them separate. 1. Journal pricing. Independent of OA, it is important to take the cost of scholarly publishing

Re: Open Access Doubts

2011-10-29 Thread Jan Velterop
Stevan Harnad responded to most of Eric van der Velde's doubts (http://bit.ly/v3OAqq) straightforwardly – and fairly, I think. To Eric's question whether OA publishing amounts to vanity publishing, he responds with a few references to his own papers, that perhaps don't quite answer the

Re: Open Access Doubts

2011-10-29 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Eric F. Van de Velde eric.f.vandeve...@gmail.com wrote: Stevan: Remember, I am an OA supporter, Eric, I know (and an old friend and comrade-at-arms!)... though I am getting discouraged about the slow progress. Me too (though I've been discouraged about that

Re: Open Access Doubts

2011-10-29 Thread Stevan Harnad
I agree with Jan Velterop that there are low-quality and junk non-OA journals, just as there are low-quality and junk OA journals (though I do think there is evidence that the pay-to-publish OA model has lowered the cost, risk and barriers to start-up low-quality and junk journals). I referred to

Re: Open Access Doubts

2011-10-29 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2011-10-28, at 5:47 PM, Eric F. Van de Velde wrote: My most recent blog may be of interest to this list. It starts as follows, the rest is available at http://scitechsociety.blogspot.com/2011/10/open-access-doubts.html There are very simple answers to each of Eric's doubts, which arise