Publications to avoid ... one could use http://www.journalprices.com
Journal Cost-Effectiveness 2011
Select a subject area and sort by price per article ... with descending
results ...
And quickly see the most outrageously priced journals.
The problem, however, is that the list could use
In regards e-books in the sciences and engineering ...
This from one of our undergrads … who didn’t want an e-book …
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It is mostly personal preference that I prefer paper copies -
* I like being able to
I agree ... ranking Caltech #38 seems odd ...
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edu
http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum
I am also dumbfounded that some one would make such an absurd statement.
A case in point is Gene's suggestion, some years ago, that Cyrillic articles
should be transliterated to the Roman alphabet to make them more easily read
and more affordable than translated articles.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan
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The 7th title was v.1(1) which carried the title: Australasian journal of
musculoskeletal medicine.
It is hard to
Two thoughts here 1) shouldn't an increase in the size of the journal be
factored into the discussion before making the 'double-dipping' charge and 2)
PLOS One has published ~6000 articles while the Journal of Biological Chemistry
(and probably several others) have published almost 10,000
in this e-mail is that of the author alone, and
does not represent the opinion or policy of BC Electronic Library
Network or Simon Fraser University Library.
Heather Morrison
heath...@eln.bc.ca
Sent from my mobile device
On 2009-07-05, at 12:42 PM, Dana Roth dzr...@library.caltech.edu
wrote:
Two
Isn't this similar to the 'right of way' laws which preclude property owners
from putting up a fence across a long-used public path through private property.
It would seem that a long term absence of any active attempt to restrict
authors from sharing their publications for non-commercial
Isn't it more likely that researchers would be extra 'busy' trying to sort out
what is relevant from everything else on the web?
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edu
The January 25 issue of Chemistry Industry (issue 2, 2010) has a short
article on research fraud which includes a sidebar on the situation in China
(see below). This suggests that, contrary to Heather Morrison's suggestion,
scholar led open access publishing is not a viable solution. Without
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Of Leslie Carr
Sent: 19 February 2010 10:13
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Subject: Re: Facing up to fraud - China's exponential research growth could
fuel fraud
On 19 Feb 2010, at 05:00, Dana Roth wrote:
The January 25 issue of Chemistry
Could this be due to the failure of a business model that depends on donated
time/money?
Which sounds similar to the inherent problems with the SCOAP3 initiative from
CERN.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library
Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd.
Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax:626-792-7540
Jan makes some good points but I think that a distinction should be made
between society publishers and commercial publishers.
I find it hard to imagine that the significance of society publishers is
diminishing rapidly given the rapidly growing importance of their journals.
Doesn't the future
Reme brings up an excellent, if unstated, point ... commercially published OA
journals like commercially published subscription journals are the problem ...
not the society/non-commercial OA and subscription journals.
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Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd.
I think there is a tendency to overly generalize the access problem which, in my
mind, is primarily a problem with the biomedical literature.Â
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Lack of access, by members of the general public who need to go from PubMed to
the full text, is obviously very frustrating.
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My sense, however,
Stevan: would it be helpful to have a 'hall of shame' where titles of journals
that do not allow self-archiving are 'outed'??
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edu
I would disagree with Arif Jinha, in that it is the âassertive and competitive
advocacy for mandates over Gold OA publishingâ that make AMSCI such an
interesting listserv.Â
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Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423Â fax
I suspect that there are a number of members of the AAP that would prefer to
indicate their disapproval by simply not 'signing on' ... I think it is safe to
assume that silence is disapproval.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423
It seems that Sage Open is almost too reasonably priced for what they offer â¦
but I am a science librarian who doesnât know much about the soft
sciences/humanities publishing.
This from:Â
http://www.sagepub.com/journalsProdDesc.nav?prodId=Journal202037#tabview=title
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1. Quick review
And the fact the ones that are not free are generally very modestly priced?
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edu
http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm
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There is a similar problem with electronic theses ... which, while deposited,
can be 'restricted' awaiting the author's approval for OA.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
Re: There are sooo many subscription journals occupying the same niche -
sometimes partially, but often enough completely - and yet they are all
subscribed to, widely or narrowly, but economically sufficiently, on the
strength of the adage that you can't afford to miss anything in your
Here is Jeffrey Beall's answer to Ashry Aly's disagreement:
http://scholarlyoa.com/2013/01/20/ashdin_publishing/
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edumailto:dzr...@library.caltech.edu
Isn't one of the main points of civil disobedience ... acceptance of the legal
consequences ... as a way to bring public pressure to make changes ??
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
While Emerald publishes many titles in the field of Library and Information
Science/Studies (LIS), its Wikipedia entry suggests that there may be some
underlying problems:
In 2004, Philip Davis of Cornell University found extensive covert duplication
of articles in Emerald/MCB University Press
I generally agree with Stevan ... and think the key point here is blatant
nature of commercial publishers trying to protect their current revenue
streams.
I do, however, appreciate the needs of non-profit major society publishers, in
order to maintain the quality of their journals, to
Isn't the fact that The BIS report finds no evidence to support this
distinction, due to the fact that there isn't sufficient data?
I sense that we are going to have to live with (Green) OA and subscription
journals for some time ... and that it is the subscription model for
commercially
The problem with this analysis, from a another librarian's viewpoint, is that
...
1. Rick is suggesting that libraries reward publishers by providing
subscription funds for journals that [are] not green at all. ... and
2. It also penalizes responsible society publishers who allow quick
Re: Business/economics with a delay of 18 months took twice as long as
chemistry with a 9 month average delay.
I checked with the Royal Society of Chemistry and find that:
Journals: Average receipt to advance article publication across all journals
for a paper is 80-85 days, for a
In defense of Jeffrey Beall ... the extreme variability of Hindawi's APCs is,
at the least, interesting ...
especially the large number of 'free' and relatively low priced APCs for many
of their journals.
http://www.hindawi.com/apc/
Dana L. Roth
Caltech Library 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd.
Actually ... Sciknow is on Beall's list
http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/
Dana L. Roth
Caltech Library 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edu
http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm
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Sandy Thatcher makes a good point ... as many scholarly monographs are akin to
special issues of a review journal ... as evidenced by the subject focus of
many 'Advances', 'Progress in', etc., volumes.
An exception needs to be made for 'Annual Reviews' (a nonprofit scientific
publisher) as
One wonders if the dramatic decline, from 2001 to 2012, in both the number
published articles (692 --288) the subscription price ($12598 -- $5931)
had anything to do with Nuclear Physics B participating in SCOAP3?
Dana L. Roth
Caltech Library 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
Re: “Publishing in scholarly peer reviewed journals usually entails long
delays from submission to publication. In part this is due to the length of
the peer review process and in part because of the dominating tradition of
publication in issues, earlier a necessity of paper‐based publishing,
In fairness to Jonathan Bate ... his concern about a future loss of nurturing,
marketing, and production values', currently provided by book publishers, is
not unreasonable.
Dana L. Roth
Caltech Library 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
I understand Heather Morrison's concern ... but the only way public libraries
will be funded to provide additional computer/internet connections is thru
additional use and complaints to local authorities.
However, I strongly suspect that any increase in the use of public library
computers by
From Physics World (January issue, p.8, not yet online)
Some 5K papers a year in particle physics will become immediately free to read
online ...
SCOAP3 will be using 'library' funds to the tune of $1800/article for Phys.
Lett. B and 1200 GBP/article for New J. Phys. ...
If my math is
Forwarded from:
https://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2014/03/26/elseviergate-elsevier-is-still-charging-for-open-access-even-after-i-have-told-them-wellcome-should-take-them-to-court/
Elseviergate;
Elsevier is STILL charging for Open Access even after I have told them.
Wellcome should take them to
Thanks to Stevan for reminding the list that working with librarians will, in
the long run, be much more productive than denigrating their efforts.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
If it is such a minor annoyance, why would Elsevier find it necessary to issue
a Warning regarding fraudulent call for papers ... See:
http://www.elsevier.com/journal-authors/authors-update/authors-update/warning-re.-fraudulent-call-for-papers
or the necessity of Jeffrey Beall's extensive
criteria, why not judge
it on the quality of the research in the paper itself?
David
On 23 Sep 2014, at 23:51, Dana Roth
dzr...@library.caltech.edumailto:dzr...@library.caltech.edumailto:dzr...@library.caltech.edu
wrote:
If it is such a minor annoyance, why would Elsevier find it necessary
It would be nice if 'Paperity' would maintain a listing of the publishers of
the journals they index.
T-R does this for Web of Science Journal Citation Reports, and it is very
helpful.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax
Speaking of ‘Gold’ Open Access:
I have long wondered why libraries should contribute to the publication costs
that arise from SCOAP3’s GOLD open access … especially since high energy
physicists have a very long history of freely providing access to their work,
historically through paper
It is also not for me to say on behalf of Mr. Beall, but to note that Beall's
list is solely a listing of Potential, possible, or probable predatory
scholarly open-access publishers.
http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd.
1. re: whether editing and peer review are slow or fast depend on factors
such as speed of communication and do not necessarily reflect quality ... this
may be valid in a theory, but as a general rule, I would suggest that speed is
more likely a result of a cursory review than of any increase
You might want to check further re: Hindawi …
I noticed that some of their journals seem to have an enormous increase in the
number of published articles … seemingly far above what could be reasonably be
peer reviewed?
This data is from journals indexed by Web of Science or PubMed … and I
As an aside, the American Chemical Society has just begun publication of ACS
Central Science http://pubs.acs.org/journal/acscii
ACS Central Science is entirely open access, with no subscription fees or
article publishing charges for authors. The review process is stringent and
efficient. The
Hi Heather: FYI ...
Web of Science indexed 10,932 articles from World J. Gastroenterology with
publication years 200402013 and 1260 articles with publication year 2013
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
I think was is missing here is the realization that Elsevier needs all the
'good press' that it can generate. One easy way to do this would be to make
all the pre-1995 material OA. Since it is now obviously 20 years old, there
will be increasingly decreased demand, so what do they have to
As an aside, here is the Wikipedia 'background' for Libertas Academica
Libertas Academica, referred to as LA, is a publisher of open access (OA)
scientific, technical and medical journals. It is privately funded and was
founded specifically to publish OA journals. It was established in late
This from a recent item in Nature ...
RCUK says that the licence problem is compounded by researchers not
understanding which licence they need to use to comply with the open-access
policy, and by publishers offering a range of ‘open’ licences. (Since January,
all 18 open-access journals owned
Dear Jeroen Bosman and others:
The definition of Open Access given by Jeroen Bosman seems a little
restrictive, expecially given the new ACS Central Science, which requires
neither payment for reading the article nor from the author to publish the
article.
WSEAS Transactions seems to be
Thieme announces new research project examining authors’ perceptions of APC and
Pay What You Want as a business model for academic journals - 04 Jun 2015
Medical and scientific publisher Thiemehttp://www.thieme.com/ has announced a
collaboration with the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität of
Taking Bernard's 'public road' analogy a little further ... one wonders his
insistence on a 'perfect' solution isn't unfairly denigrating a reasonable (at
least in the short term) alternative.
The current situation, where the 'public NIH road' is closed temporarily (12
months) and one has to
The Royal Society has had a 'transparent-pricing' policy, since 2012, that
accounts for income, from 'author-pays' open access articles, in setting
future subscription rates.
See: http://royalsocietypublishing.org/librarians/transparent-pricing
Dana L. Roth
Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California
I agree with Christian in the sense that librarians have a responsibility to
their faculty to make them aware of the significant pricing disparity between
non-profit society journals and commercially published journals. Most faculty
are reasonable, especially when given solid data, when
One way to help keep this straight is to work out the cost per currency.
An Article Processing Charge (APC) of 3,000 EUROs (3,900 USD/GBP2500) works out
to $1.30/Euro
While an APC of 2,950 EUROS (3,900 USD/GBP 2,500) works out to exchange rate
of: 1.32$/Euro
Actually, the decrease of 50 Euros
The journals listed on the 'journalconsortium' webpage are published by
'Academic Journals' ... which is listed on Beall's List:
http://scholarlyoa.com/publishers/
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
I strongly agree with Jeffrey Beall ... journals, like 'ACS Central Science',
that provide OA without author charges need to be recognized and applauded!
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
Doesn't this fit in with Emerald's previous policy of taking over existing
library science journals and doubling the price?
Dana L. Roth
Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd.
Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540
dzr...@library.caltech.edumailto:dzr...@library.caltech.edu
Isn't the JCI unique in the sense that it is has a relatively very inexpensive
subscription rate?
A personal subscription provides a monthly (now electronic) plop on the desk
that serves as a reminder to users that each new issue is available.
This is similar to our experience that, some years
There could be a problem trying to extrapolate from unverified data ...
I suspect that many of the 'freely available after 6 months' journals are
either very low cost <$1K/year, non-profit society journals, journals in a
larger package, or a combination of these.
Perhaps David would take a
Heather: I fail to see that focusing on GOLD OA publishers is a distraction.
Jeffrey Beall is providing a unique service that should not be denigrated. If
"His own work could benefit from the same critical lens" ... I don't think he
would object ... who is willing to step up?
Dana L. Roth
I not sure I understand Eric's 'unaddressed problem'. Web of Science has a
very rigorous selection policy and Jeffrey Beall has an informative listing of
'suspect' OA journals. Shouldn't these resources provide prospective authors
with sufficient information to make an informed decision on
Jeron makes some excellent points ... I would hope that we could stop lumping
all subscription journals together and distinguish between non-profit society
journals and commercial journals.
Dana L. Roth
Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32
1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125
626-395-6423 fax
Very interesting article, although the author missed a couple of points ...
namely that
1.Maxwell was very clever in providing 'personal subscriptions' to
scientists at subscribing institutions at less than the cost of mailing.
2. The 10% increase in price for Brain Research from 1975 to 1985
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