[GOAL] Re: A bit of advice with regards to the history of the OA movement

2012-03-29 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I fully agree with Stevan : Peter was the actual drafter of BOAI in 2001-2, and he has remained front and centre ever since. A little detail : thanks for mentioning Surfaces, but it started in 1991, and you should also mention Stevan's publication , Psycholoquy which started even earlier. Best,

[GOAL] Re: Open Access Priorities: Peer Access and Public Access

2012-04-30 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I have read with great interest this debate because, in essence, it summarizes a great deal of the disagreements I have had with Stevan over the years. We all share a common goal -- namely OA -- but we do not construe the function, situation and purpose of research in the same manner. There is

[GOAL] Re: [BOAI10] Re: Elsevier's query re: positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized

2012-05-15 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
between core science, so-called, and the rest. Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le lundi 14 mai 2012 à 11:38 -0700, Eric F. Van de Velde a écrit : To Alicia: Here are what I consider the positive contributions

[GOAL] Re: [BOAI10] Re: Elsevier's query re: positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized

2012-05-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
interfering with the former, the problem would be minimal, but this is not the case. Best regards, Jean-Claude -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le mercredi 16 mai 2012 à 18:32 +0200, Hélène.Bosc a écrit :  Jean-Claude said :I

[GOAL] Re: Agreement on Green OA not needed from publishers but from institutions and funders

2012-06-20 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
themselves; they also claim a degree of control over the grand conversation of science. Obviously, both propositions are unacceptable. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mercredi 20 juin 2012 à 07:41 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On 2012-06-20, at 7:15 AM, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) wrote: ...perhaps

[GOAL] Re: Agreement on Green OA not needed from publishers but from institutions and funders

2012-06-20 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
of Michael Sandel's book, What Money can't buy is in order here. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mercredi 20 juin 2012 à 15:22 +0100, Sally Morris a écrit : I find it very sad that the response on this list has been to denigrate both the Finch report's authors and publishers in general. It would seem

[GOAL] Re: citability of the list...

2012-06-21 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I agree with Keith, but is this not always the case? Even in a peer-reviewed article? Caveat lector is what I tell my students. Jean-Claude Le jeudi 21 juin 2012 à 15:09 +, keith.jeff...@stfc.ac.uk a écrit : Richard, Laurent, all – I have no problems with the open policy. My

Re: Reasons for freeing the primary research literature

2001-08-17 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
think? Best, Jean-Claude Guédon PS I heard a strange piece of news recently: a fellow apparently named Albert Henderson has found himself incapacitated in some manner. I do not know the exact cause, but what is clear is that his computer is spewing off a number of messages from a fixed bank

Re: Interview with Derk Haank, CEO, Elsevier

2002-04-02 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
the difference in tone achieved in seven years. Back then, arrogance dominated. Jean-Claude Guédon Stevan Harnad NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing free access to the refereed journal literature online is available at the American Scientist September Forum (98 99 00 01

Re: Interview with Derk Haank, CEO, Elsevier

2002-04-03 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
with the whole list in attendance. Jean-Claude Guédon Le 2 Avril 2002 14:27, Albert Henderson a écrit : on 2 Apr 2002 jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote: Let me respond in the body of the text below. Le 1 Avril 2002 09:58, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Richard Poynder

Re: Interview with Derk Haank, CEO, Elsevier

2002-04-05 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le 4 Avril 2002 17:28, Albert Henderson a écrit : on 4/3/2002 Jean-Claude Guédon jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote: Private research universities do not dominate research. They only play an important role in research, and this mainly in the US, not elsewhere. In Europe

Re: Book on future of STM publishers

2002-07-23 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
a reputable open-access archive. Best, Jean-Claude Guédon Le 19 Juillet 2002 04:42, M. Meier a écrit : As many of you wonder about the outdated media in which the dissertation is published, I will give you the obvious explanation: The University of Munich requires that all Ph.D manuscripts have

Re: STM Talk: Open Access by Peaceful Evolution

2003-02-19 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, as is the focus of their committees... :-) Jean-Claude Stevan Harnad -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur Littérature comparée, Université de Montréal Tél. : 1-514-343-6208 Fax : 1-514-343-2211

Re: STM Talk: Open Access by Peaceful Evolution

2003-02-21 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Stevan, Thank you for taking the time to respond to my objections. Let me respond below. Le 19 Février 2003 10:32, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: s The [Open Access] movement's efforts and motivation were at s first led by the library community

Re: STM Talk: Open Access by Peaceful Evolution

2003-02-24 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Dear Stevan, As usual, I will respond in the paragraphs, below. Best regards, jc Le 21 Février 2003 10:24, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: The second point you make about the lament is not quite right. Libraries do not own local intellectual

Re: STM Talk: Open Access by Peaceful Evolution

2003-02-24 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le 24 Février 2003 10:50, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: h The lament cannot be read as a collective macro-statement h by all libraries, because we and our completely lose their sense if h construed collectively. Yes, there is a collective resolution

Re: STM Talk: Open Access by Peaceful Evolution

2003-03-04 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le 1 Mars 2003 15:16, David Goodman a =E9crit : Jean-Claude may feel that Librarians create the illusion of free access by supporting the whole structure financially and Stevan may disdain Anyone who prefers instead to fight with publishers over tolls -- or to lock horns with

Re: Author Publication Charge Debate

2004-02-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
repeatedly observed. Best, Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur Littérature comparée, Université de Montréal Tél. : 1-514-343-6208 Fax : 1-514-343-2211

Re: Author Publication Charge Debate

2004-02-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. POB 2423 Bridgeport CT 06608-0423 a...@chessnic.com ature. This is also true of much technology and social sciences but not so much in the Humanities. 6. Claiming -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur Littérature comparée, Université de Montréal Tél. : 1-514-343-6208 Fax : 1-514-343-2211

Re: Dlib Report on Berlin 3 on Open Access to appear today

2005-04-06 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I do not have all that much time to respond to Stevan's theses, but I should respond to some of his statements. Please, see below. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 15 mars 2005 à 20:42 +, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, guedon wrote: In his very recent dlib posting, Stevan

Re: The Green and Gold Roads to Open Access

2005-04-11 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
basis. Jean-Claude Guédon Le lundi 11 avril 2005 à 13:06 +0100, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Below is a comment on an article in Wired entitled Open-Access Journals Flourish (by Randy Dotinga) http://wired-vig.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,67174,00.html?tw=wn_2culthead which (as usual

{Disarmed} Re: OA's Three Bogeymen

2010-02-17 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I am not so sure that I focus more on ought than is. Public money is already deeply integrated into scientific and scholarly publishing in a wide variety of ways: direct subsidies, in-kind subsidies through the use of publicly-supported facilities, tax breaks, etc. The SciELO model keeps recurring

Re: Facing up to fraud - China's exponential research growth could fuel fraud

2010-02-19 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
This has to be one of the most telling (and funniest) non sequitur I have ever read. A textbook example if there ever were one. Why would Open Access (which is about access, not peer review) lead to sloppy peer review? When an OA journals such as PLOS biology with an impact factor hovering over 12

Re: JAIRO (Japanese Institutional Repositories Online)

2010-09-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
The repeated use of terms such as gold fever or gold rush impels me to weigh in a little on this thread. For back ground, let me remind readers that I favor both green and gold. However, I do not favor all flavors of gold, and I do not favor saying that green is superior to gold. I have strong

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Indeed, Larry! And Stevan Harnad is quite right is refusing to equate Open Access with the Gold Road. In fact, Open Access is made up of two approaches: OA publishing or Gold Road and self-archiving or Green Road. And both roads are valuable, arguably equally (although differently) valuable. As

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Bernard, I will simply quote the Bethesda statement on OA: 1. Definition of Open Access Publication An Open Access Publication[1] is one that meets the following two conditions: 1. The author(s) and copyright holder(s) grant(s) to all users a free, irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual right

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Bernard, The Green Road is not generally conceived of as publishing unless you take the work publishing in a very general sense, such as making public. Stevan Harnad, in fact, has always carefully separated the Green Road (self-archiving - not self-publishing) from both vanity presses and

Re: Another Poynder Eye-Opener on Open Access

2011-05-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le samedi 14 mai 2011 à 09:26 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On 2011-05-11, at 8:35 PM, jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote: I said nothing about peer review, and I would also agree that peer review is indispensable. The new form of judgement that I allude to would be a form of peer

Re: Another Poynder Eye-Opener on Open Access

2011-05-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le samedi 14 mai 2011 à 20:17 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Jean-Claude Guédon jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote: I am not talking about replacing the peer review process. I am talking about either complementing it with another system, or re-aiming

Re: Ranking of repositories

2011-08-03 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Personally, I regret these constant efforts to create rankings leading to the identification of excellence. They completely distort the quality issues which, IMHO, are far more important. Would it not be much better to create evaluation thresholds corresponding to quality levels. This would

Re: Ranking of repositories

2011-08-04 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I fully agree with Isidro that  Perhaps the problem is not with the Rankings themselves, but with authorities not applying quality criteria in the evaluation of such classifications. But feeding tools for ranking is also part of the problem. Witness this quotation from one of Eugene Garfield's

Re: Impact-Seeking vs. Royalty-Seeking Work

2011-11-07 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I would like to support Stevan on this. The concepts of relative autonomy of the scientific community (Robert K. Merton) and of symbolic capital (Pierre Bourdieu) have been designed by these sociologists of science precisely to show that economic matters, if they appear at all in scientific

[GOAL] Re: Elsevier's query re: positive things from publishers that should be encouraged, celebrated, recognized

2012-05-12 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
I object to the notion of sustainable applied to publications for two reasons : 1. Scientific research is unsustainable and has been so since at least the 17th century. 2. Peer-reviewing research results and making resulting version available to all interested is an integral part of the research

[GOAL] Re: The OA Interviews: Jeffrey Beall, University of Colorado Denver

2012-07-11 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
to do so, including with research results that appear in book form, as is often the case in SHS. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mercredi 11 juillet 2012 à 16:25 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : GOLD FEVER AND FINCH FOLLIES The biggest risk from Gold OA (and it's already a reality

[GOAL] Re: Reaching for the Reachable

2012-07-12 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
on the unreachable. Stevan Harnad On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk wrote: I think JC identifies the key point: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Jean-Claude Guédon jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote

[GOAL] Re: Reaching for the Reachable

2012-07-12 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
listening? Anyone willing to cooperate on this? Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 à 18:11 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk wrote: *** The faculty ignore the mandates. This is the reality

[GOAL] Re: Chemistry and the Green Door

2012-07-13 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
material, the exercise is useless, from a user's perspective. Jan On 13 Jul 2012, at 13:58, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: The discussion presently going on is divisive and not useful. Both Gold and Green are useful. Every little bit helps. Everybody is doing as well as he/she can

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

2012-07-26 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
mind, this is the optimal version of Gold. Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 26 juillet 2012 à 06:16 -0600, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit : I make the distinction between gold open-access and platinum open-access. Author fees + free to reader = gold open access No author fees + free

[GOAL] Re: Hat Tip: Let's not leave Humanities behind in the dash for open access

2012-07-27 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. They might need transitional funds from some willing foundation to do so, but I believe it is feasible. There is a lot to think about here. Jean-Claude Guédon PS And, just for equilibrium's sake, this is only on the Gold side. Much work remains to be done on the Green side as well. Ultimately, we

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

2012-08-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
More precisely, reviews are financed in part by the institutions that harbour the reviewers. Reviewers are not paid; they simply can transform this work into symbolic capital if their institution includes this kind of activity in their annual report. To that extent, it can be said that the

[GOAL] LA Referencia |

2012-09-30 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
A Latin American consortium of institutional repositories that is of importance: http://lareferencia.redclara.net/rfr/ Jean-Claude Guédon ___ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal

[GOAL] A special issue on Open Access in Latin America

2012-10-06 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Tchak, Désir d'Afrique (Paris, Gallimard, 2002), p. 312. Thanks to Alice Le Filleul who, unwittingly, attracted my attention to this splendid analysis. My own translation. Good reading. Jean-Claude Guédon PS I have not read and checked every last article of this collection as I became aware

[GOAL] Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost fromGratis to CC-BY

2012-10-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. Jean-Claude Guédon Message d'origine De: goal-boun...@eprints.org de la part de Jan Velterop Date: mer. 10/10/2012 12:07 À: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Cc: SPARC Open Access Forum; BOAI Forum Objet : [GOAL] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA

[GOAL] Re: Interview with Harvard's Stuart Shieber

2012-12-12 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
appearances of uncertainty and risk for the researchers (and others as well). Jean-Claude Guédon Le mercredi 12 décembre 2012 à 07:28 +, Alma Swan a écrit : David Prosser wrote: APCs make up just one business model that can be used to support Gold OA. Gold is OA

[GOAL] Re: Statement: Australian Open Access Support Group applauds new ARC open access policy

2013-01-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 18 janvier 2013 à 00:41 -0500, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Many thanks to Arthur Sale for posting this. When I saw these (obvious) howlers in the ARC Policy I assumed the policy-makers (or the policy-writers) had fallen asleep at the wheel (and I gave up

[GOAL] Re: If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and social sciences

2013-01-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
crannies, but some good thinking should allow overcome most if not all of them. Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 18 janvier 2013 à 12:29 -0500, Omega Alpha|Open Access a écrit : If the sciences can do it… PLOHSS: A PLOS-style model for the humanities and social sciences http://wp.me/p20y83-BF

[GOAL] Re: Statement: Australian Open Access Support Group applauds new ARC open access policy

2013-01-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le samedi 19 janvier 2013 à 10:14 +1100, Arthur Sale a écrit : Thanks Jean-Claude Guédon and Falk Reckling for your comments. It is difficult to answer them succinctly, but I will try. 1. There is a substantial difference between books and articles in the current situation

[GOAL] Re: Please distinguish what is and is not relevant to mandating Green OA self-archiving

2013-01-20 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
of the arguments that OAPEN usedin favour of its programme. Jean-Claude Guédon Stevan Harnad ___ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée

[GOAL] Re: Please distinguish what is and is not relevant to mandating Green OA self-archiving

2013-01-20 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
other. Jean-Claude Guédon Le dimanche 20 janvier 2013 à 15:10 -0800, Heather Morrison a écrit : On 20-Jan-13, at 2:25 PM, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote: (excerpt) Some forms of Gold do not require any more payment than what is needed to maintain a repository. In fact, an OA Gold journal

[GOAL] Re: Please distinguish what is and is not relevant to mandating Green OA self-archiving

2013-01-21 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
of mega-journals as a potent sign of this. Best, Jean-Claude Guédon Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 11:42 +1100, Arthur Sale a écrit : I think we are now getting into an off-target area: not open access but archiving. It is really unfortunate that open access repositories were ever called archives

[GOAL] Re: open access and monographs - ARC and wider

2013-01-22 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
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[GOAL] Re: Fwd: German government proposes copyright amendment granting a right of secondary publication (green road)

2013-02-21 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
that an increasing number of politicians are getting it about Open Access. Let us hope this law fares well in the Bundestag, and finds imitations in other jurisdictions. Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 21 février 2013 à 08:47 -0500, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Begin forwarded message: From: Christoph Bruch

[GOAL] Re: [accesouvert] Important JASIST Simulation Study of Transition to OA

2013-02-23 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
these models and their claims. Jean-Claude Guédon Le samedi 23 février 2013 à 12:02 -0500, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Bernius, S., Hanauske, M., Dugall, B. and König, W. (2013), Exploring the effects of a transition to open access: Insights from a simulation study. J. Am. Soc. Inf. Sci.. doi

[GOAL] Re: Paid Gold vs. Free Gold

2013-04-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
researchers, for example a realistic implementation of the mandate. Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 07:45 +0100, Stevan Harnad a écrit : 1. The Green/Gold Open Access (OA) distinction concerns whether it is the author or the publisher that provides the OA. 2. This distinction

[GOAL] Re: Paid Gold vs. Free Gold

2013-04-19 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
be simple, not simplistic. Jean-Claude Guédon PS David Prosser is right, Green and Gold are enough. Free Gold is perfectly clear. Le vendredi 19 avril 2013 à 17:20 +0900, Andrew A. Adams a écrit : Jan is right. It appears my institution has a subscription that I didn't know about - when trying

[GOAL] Re: Gold OA infrastructure

2013-06-04 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. Meanwhile, working hard on other governments not to be tricked like the UK government is obviously another front to be opened; there again, I fully agree with Fred. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 04 juin 2013 à 11:28 +, Friend, Fred a écrit : The wide range of activities reported on the gold oa blog

[GOAL] Re: CHORUS: Yet Another Trojan Horse from the Publishing Industry

2013-06-06 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Thank you, Stevan. Spot on! Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 06 juin 2013 à 10:59 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : The OSTP should on no account be taken in by the Trojan Horse that is being offered by the research publishing industry's CHORUS. CHORUS is just the latest successor organisation

[GOAL] Re: FW: [SCHOLCOMM] Message from Emerald for Librarians

2013-06-21 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
of knowledge construction? Their objective is money, not knowledge. Their objective is wealth for a few as against knowledge for all. And do not let the alleged distributive powers of the invisible hand fool you! Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 21 juin 2013 à 13:51 +0100, Richard Poynder a écrit

[GOAL] Re: Promoting Open Access amongst young researchers

2013-08-09 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
these concerns could fall under Process of scholarly communication, of course, but they are sufficiently crucial to be singled out and studied in themselves. In a sense, they deal with the political dimension of open access (as distinguished from policy). Best regards, Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 09 août

[GOAL] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-13 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
unsatisfied. Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 13 septembre 2013 à 11:38 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : End of the gold rush? (Yvonne Morris, cilip): In the interest of making research outputs publicly available; shorter and consistent or no embargo periods are the desired outcome. However, publishers

[GOAL] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
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[GOAL] Re: Disruption vs. Protection

2013-09-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
assumption. Jean-Claude Guédon Le samedi 14 septembre 2013 à 15:09 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Peter Murray-Rust pm...@cam.ac.uk wrote: PM-R: Stevan Harnad's goal [is] that Green OA will destroy the subscription market (http

[GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits

2013-10-06 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
prestige through impact factors, you sink into a completely absurd world. There is a French song that would fit this scenario perfectly: Tout va très bien, Madame la Marquise... Jean-Claude Guédon Le dimanche 06 octobre 2013 à 08:28 +1100, Arthur Sale a écrit : I fully agree Sally. Where

[GOAL] Scielo citation index

2013-10-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
An announcement has been made showing that Scielo's citation index will be incorporated inside the Web of Science, at least in parts. See http://wokinfo.com/products_tools/multidisciplinary/scielo/?elq=054bc3957acf48778c9621d4d08ebbf5elqCampaignId=7595 Jean-Claude Guédon PS The consequences

[GOAL] Re: The Journal Publisher Lobby in the UK Netherlands: Part I

2013-11-17 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Could we make sure that we do not use Gold too quickly as a synonym for author-pay Gold. I meet ever more frequently with this confusion and I think it deeply affects the quality of our analyses and strategies. Jean-Claude Guédon Le dimanche 17 novembre 2013 à 17:38 -0500, Peter Suber a écrit

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-09 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Interesting twist on a plot good enough to draw the attention of a revived Monty Python... Will the real Jeffrey Beall stand up? And, as a question to the whole community, if you had written such a paper, would you claim it? :-) Jean-Claude Guédon Le lundi 09 décembre 2013 à 21:14 +

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-09 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
mandates upon ourselves?... Stay tuned!… Stevan Harnad ___ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-09 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
have been published on April 1st, as was my initial reaction. And, as I said, we should never underestimate Jeffrey Beall's sense of humour... Jean-Claude Guédon Le lundi 09 décembre 2013 à 14:45 -0700, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit : Wouter, Hello, yes, I wrote the article, I stand

[GOAL] Re: Elsevier is taking down papers from Academia.edu

2013-12-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, if I were a strategist within one of these big publishers, this is what I would strive to do: avoid direct confrontation and muddy the waters as much as you can while optimizing the revenue stream from whatever source. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 10 décembre 2013 à 13:05 +, Peter Murray-Rust

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
discredited himself. I will report to the list if any positive developments arise. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 10 décembre 2013 à 10:28 +, Gerritsma, Wouter a écrit : http://www.qoam.eu/ -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility ofBeall's List

2013-12-10 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
as much as mathematicians. What if, over a certain period of time, the proportion of mathematical articles triples for whatever reason? The raw impact factor will go down. Does this mean anything in terms of quality? Of course not! Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 10 décembre 2013 à 13:36 +, Sally

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises CredibilityofBeall's List

2013-12-12 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Thank you, Jan. Very well put. Jean-Claude Guédon Le jeudi 12 décembre 2013 à 13:44 +, Jan Velterop a écrit : But Sally, so-called 'green' and 'gold' are the means. The BOAI definition is an articulation of the end, the goal. Of course, if you navigate the ocean of politics and vested

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
the consequences of this anger will be, I cannot foretell, but they will likely be dire and profound. If I were in your shoes, I would be scared. Jean-Claude Guédon Le vendredi 13 décembre 2013 à 13:14 +, Sally Morris a écrit : I don't deny that re-use (e.g. text mining) is a valuable attribute

[GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's List

2013-12-16 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Le lundi 16 décembre 2013 à 14:34 +, Graham Triggs a écrit : On 14 December 2013 20:53, Jean-Claude Guédon jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca wrote: Which terms have been introduced by the publishing industry? The majority of the terms that I see regularly were introduced

[GOAL] Re: Question why journals in DOAJ are being listed as 'Australian'

2014-03-26 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
? Is Australia OK? How many implicit forms of racism or cultural arrogance are hidden in such a perspective? Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 25 mars 2014 à 17:42 -0600, Beall, Jeffrey a écrit : Danny, I have been monitoring this publisher closely recently. I regularly receive inquiries about

[GOAL] Re: The Open Access Interviews: Paul Royster, Coordinator of Scholarly Communications, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

2014-09-03 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, confusing strategic visions with tactical steps is a complicated way of saying that perfection can be the enemy of the good. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le mardi 02 septembre 2014 à 11:07 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : For the record: I

[GOAL] Re: Fwd: The Open Access Interviews: Paul Royster

2014-09-17 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
compensated by the neglect of SSH disciplines. yet, the latter constitute about half, if not more, of the researchers in the world. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le mercredi 17 septembre 2014 à 07:07 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Begin

[GOAL] Re: Fwd: The Open Access Interviews: Paul Royster

2014-09-18 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
by the lightning speed of his keystrokes. But are they everybody's keystrokes? Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le jeudi 18 septembre 2014 à 12:28 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jean-Claude

[GOAL] Re: Fwd: The Open Access Interviews: Paul Royster

2014-09-19 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
close to 90% is indeed outstanding. Jean-Claude -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 19 septembre 2014 à 19:46 +0200, brent...@ulg.ac.be a écrit : Liège does not mandate anything, so far as I know; it only looks into the local

[GOAL] Re: Fwd: The Open Access Interviews: Paul Royster

2014-09-19 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. Common sense is enough for me. Let us get the Liège form of mandate wherever we can (which I am presently trying to do in my own university), and let us also do all we can to promote OA for all (including all disciplines). And I will stop this thread here. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-24 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
... :-) ). -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le mercredi 24 septembre 2014 à 09:35 +0900, Andrew A. Adams a écrit : Dana Roth wrote: Thanks to Stevan for reminding the list that working with librarians will, in the long run, be much

[GOAL] Re: Quis Custodiet?

2014-09-24 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
around Open Access. A scientist, by contrast, sitting on top of his logic, finds it easier to assert the deductions stemming from his logic, but one's own sense of certainty is not always a good indicator of one's efficacy, particularly in mixed groups. Jean-Claude Guédon

[GOAL] Re: FW: Cambridge policy change

2014-10-02 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
is the case now (for example re-use rights), and more thoroughly implemented in the repositories appears to be urgently needed. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le jeudi 02 octobre 2014 à 18:31 +0100, Richard Poynder a écrit : Forwarding from

[GOAL] Re: Deal in France, no deal in The Netherlands

2014-11-05 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
and beyond. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mercredi 05 novembre 2014 à 08:28 +, Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) a écrit : Over last few days we witnessed Elsevier reaching a new 5-year deal with French Universities, for 33,4 M euro’s per year: http://scoms.hypotheses.org/293. The deal is also said to have

[GOAL] Re: The Qualis and the silence of the Brazilian researchers

2015-04-02 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
legitimate, we shall soon know. They will have no difficulty in garnering five sponsors who can be easily identified and queried as to their decision to support a particular title. Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le

[GOAL] Number of Open Access journals

2015-04-28 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
expectations (at least mine). Conclusion: scholarly journal publishing is a lot more complex than what is provided by most scientometric studies. And a final question: who is advantaged by the illusory simplicity of the publishing landscape? -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature

[GOAL] Re: Has the OA movement over-reacted to challenges on peer review?

2015-05-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
of journals. If Mr. Beall devoted a small fraction of his admirable energy to helping DOAJ weed out bad journals, rather than bask in total negativism, we would all be better off. Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le

[GOAL] Re: Has the OA movement over-reacted to challenges on peer review?

2015-05-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
as bullying, but then what about a vigorous ... debate? In conclusion, thank you for the powerful partisan characterization: this is an evaluation I would never have dared make about myself. :-) -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le jeudi

[GOAL] Re: Fair Golf vs. Fools Gold

2015-05-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, or in OA journals, it would help the OA movement enormously. Jean-Claude Guédon -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le jeudi 14 mai 2015 à 14:07 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : The subject header should of course have read Fair Gold vs

[GOAL] Re: Has the OA movement over-reacted to challenges on peer review?

2015-05-15 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
that researchers (and others) need would be under the control of research institutions. The devil, of course, is in the proverbial details, but having a clear vision and a clear road map may be helpful. This is my take on this level of our collective thinking. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire

[GOAL] Re: Sharing and reuse - not within a commercial economy, but within a sharing economy

2015-04-13 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
fulfil their real objective, which is high profit rather than high quality. Finally, if a thief threatens my life to get my wallet, I have also to admit that the transaction was easy to understand, unambiguous, and clear. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de

[GOAL] Re: Elsevier: Trying to squeeze the virtual genie back into the physical bottle

2015-05-26 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
data and text mining. It focuses on the needed first steps, but it also provides a roadmap for the healthy development of a scientific communication system that would work on a world scale and be inclusive and poly-centric rather than hierarchic and oligarchic. Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Patience, Stevan. Patience, please... jc -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 14 août 2015 à 12:28 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit : Perhaps it’s time for our newcomer, Nicolas Pettiaux, to stop posting for a while and do a little

[GOAL] Re: libre vs open - general language issues

2015-08-14 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. As for Jeffrey Beall, his position would be so much more appreciated if he approached this issue positively. He too could help if he wanted to. And his reputation would be much better if he did. -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 14

[GOAL] Re: Inside Higher Ed: All six editors and all 31 editorial board members of Lingua resign over Elsevier

2015-11-13 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
uage for that matter). And thank you to Stevan Harnad for using language correctly, as well as correctly underscoring the real meaning of my phrasing. Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 13 novembre 2015 à 10:05 -0430, Jacinto Dávila

[GOAL] Re: Retirement from SHERPA Services

2015-09-01 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
, or that expressed worries about ways to implement the Green Road. Many thanks, Peter, and your colleagues, for the great contribution to an important element of the emerging structure for OA. And the best to you personally, Jean-Claude -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée

[GOAL] Re: The open access movement slips into closed mode

2015-12-31 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. But in this case, why are Poynder and Esposito found riding such strange hobby horses? jcg -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le mercredi 30 décembre 2015 à 10:24 +, David Prosser a écrit : > While we huff and puff about Berlin

[GOAL] Re: The open access movement slips into closed mode

2015-12-31 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
. But how do you deal with representing "millions of authors" ? There is no parliament of science that I know of, and no election process exists on a world scale. And the OA community does not coincide with the researcher community (alas). -- Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire L

[GOAL] Re: The open access movement slips into closed mode

2015-12-31 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
ble and impermanent, and would quickly transform into a "flop" because of institutional, funder and national defections) Imagine, back in 1475 or so, a bunch of scriptoria saying: leave this move to print to us... And then imagine the result! :-) "Kind regards" jcg Jean-Claude

Re: [GOAL] Request Your Help for an open access study on non-English-language journals

2016-03-11 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Do not forget Redalyc in Mexico. Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le vendredi 11 mars 2016 à 12:04 +0200, Cenyu Shen a écrit : > Dear recipient, > > We have started a study to look at a subset of Open Access scholarly

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