Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-12 Thread Alma Swan
On 11/02/2009 21:37, Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com wrote: The short email conversation says nothing on CREAM OF SCIENCE. Don't confuse DARE and Cream of Science which is a subset of DARE. Cream of Science showcases prominent research from the Netherlands. The website lists the names of

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-11 Thread Klaus Graf
There is an article of a scholar (German studies) against OA in the leading German newspaper arguing that mandates (he cites ZORA) and the Konstanz request to deliver a full text when sending the data for the university bibliography ar against academic freedom. Read it in Google's English:

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
Klaus Graf:  It is wrong to think mandates are the only way to fill the repositories... Cream of Science project in the NL had a very high OA rate.  Despite the enormous value and importance of Netherlands Cream of Science and the DARE project, its

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-11 Thread Klaus Graf
2009/2/11 Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com: Klaus Graf: It is wrong to think mandates are the only way to fill the repositories... Cream of Science project in the NL had a very high OA rate. Despite the enormous value and importance of Netherlands Cream of Science and the DARE project,

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-10 Thread Heather Morrison
On 6-Feb-09, at 10:38 AM, Tomasz Neugebauer wrote: [snip] When a researcher makes the decision to publish/provide access to their work, the emergent properties of the repository are a relevant consideration. Consider the following hypothetical situation: a researcher in Buddhist studies may,

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-09 Thread Tomasz Neugebauer
[mailto:american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Rentier Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:53 PM To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org Subject: Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-08 Thread Bernard Rentier
On 07-Feb.-09 at 14:18, Klaus Graf wrote : 2009/2/6 Bernard Rentier brent...@ulg.ac.be: 1. Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a mandate and simply enforce it by making it

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-08 Thread Imre Simon
I would like to complement Tomasz Neugebauer's enlightening message. It is useful to observe that fragmenting the opposition while maintaining united one's own side is an important strategy in general (divide and conquer) and it is constantly and masterfully practiced in the area of OA. For

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-08 Thread Klaus Graf
2009/2/8 Bernard Rentier brent...@ulg.ac.be: On 07-Feb.-09 at 14:18, Klaus Graf wrote : 2009/2/6 Bernard Rentier brent...@ulg.ac.be: 1. Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-08 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Klaus Graf  wrote: Bernard Rentier: Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the  publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a mandate and

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-07 Thread Klaus Graf
2009/2/6 Bernard Rentier brent...@ulg.ac.be: I believe we are getting carried away here. My point was much simpler... 1. Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a mandate and simply

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-06 Thread Tomasz Neugebauer
Research repositories, whether they are a physical library, an electronic journal archive, an institutional repository or a subject repository, are collections of interconnected components. Understood in this way, as systems, they have emergent properties. That is, properties of the

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-06 Thread Bernard Rentier
I believe we are getting carried away here. My point was much simpler... 1. Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a mandate and simply enforce it by making it conditional for futher