[Goanet-news] Goa news for July 18, 2007

2007-07-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** House congratulates Joaquim on becoming GFA President (Deepika) Panaji, July 17 (UNI) Cutting across party lines, the Goa Legislative Assembly today unanimously adopted a motion

Re: [Goanet] Believer does not really Belive ref Vol 2, Issue 587

2007-07-17 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 16/07/07, rui nuvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hei Folks, I was uncertain from what he was saying whether one of our contributor articles Kevin Saldanha was an Evolutionist, a believer of the Faith and I inquired on his views of the delicate relationship between Hope and Faith. So I asked him

[Goanet] Thanks for info on acco. in delhi

2007-07-17 Thread Suhas Gaonkar
Dear FN, Richard,Dr. Anjali Rao,Alba, Jeevan,Joe, Thanks for the info about goa sadan and other acco. facilities. Though i didn't stay there this time probably next time i time i'll stay there.Mr. Agha was vey much helpful. Thanks and regards suhas

Re: [Goanet] Goa to Portugal - the journey of art .............the three-day Global Goan Convention in Lisbon

2007-07-17 Thread Henrique Salles da Fonseca
From: Gabe Menezes QUESTION: Why do people desperately seek out a Portuguese passport ? Are there plentiful jobs available in Portugal ? Is India so bad that people want to get out, at any cost ? Or is a Portuguese passport an entitlement to hassle free entry into any E.E.C. Country ? We

[Goanet] Today's reflections

2007-07-17 Thread Albert Desouza
Some of the Jews came to Jesus and saidRabi how is that your disciples eat with unclean hands while John's disciples did not do such a thing? Jesus answered What goes inside your system goes in and goes out and is not harmful whereas what comes out within you is really harmful.If one

[Goanet] Bhandare's musings - request for Sunith

2007-07-17 Thread Bhandare
Dear Sunith, After you are done playing Freud would you care to itemise which of my information was not supported by proof? Can you please indulge me this time, and please be specific? regards Bhandare

Re: [Goanet] why *some* missionaries get a raw deal

2007-07-17 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Bhandare, Have you written to these authors / groups to enlighten them and engage them in a dialogue? If they are engaged in criminal activities, there is the legal system to take recourse and address grievances. There is absolutely no place for physical violence and a raw deal, and to

Re: [Goanet] Who is a fascist

2007-07-17 Thread Roland Francis
Cornel, And how could you miss our very own Fascist in your list? The 'honorable' Antonio de Oliveira Salazar was like the other three, also profoundly Roman Catholic. If it were not for the eminent Goan, Prof Froilano De Melo and a few Goans of his eminence who challenged Salazar on the

Re: [Goanet] Goa now a listing on CraigsList

2007-07-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Pandu Lampiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google-owned Craigs List, a mostly free and well-used small-ad advertising-on-the internet service (Goanetters from N Am/some parts of Europe, Oz may be familiar) now has Goa as a listing: http://goa.craigslist.org/ Punda, 1) Google does not own

Re: [Goanet] Catholic Schools - Something for Nothing.

2007-07-17 Thread Roland Francis
Not to be concerned Eric. You have more than repaid your brother's debt and then some. I concur with what Eric and George say, having had the benefit myself of the same education system that was operated by those priests of Spain and Lower Germany with the occasional progeny of the Irish labor

[Goanet] Will employees be punctual now?

2007-07-17 Thread domnic fernandes
I worked in the Local Self Government Department (LSGD) in Goa Secretariat from 1967 to 1971. Dayanand B. Bandodkar was Goa's Chief Minister at the time. Office reporting time was 10:00 am; ten minutes late sign-in or grace time was allowed. Every morning a sign-in roster for every

[Goanet] more masjid trouble at Chinchinim

2007-07-17 Thread Bhandare
It is very interesting that on 2 days we have two different reports which are very instructive http://oheraldo.in/node/26523 local ZP member, Joe Dias strongly opposed any place of worship at the site. He said Chinchinim village was the home for just two Muslim families over half a decade ago,

Re: [Goanet] Evolutionist Kevin?

2007-07-17 Thread Carvalho
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selma's characterization below of my assertions in this thread is totally wrong. Response: There you go again Santosh with those words totally wrong. Of late, you've even begun calling for the pastoral exile of people who you find totally wrong.

[Goanet] First Konkani Karaoke song

2007-07-17 Thread Edward Verdes
My friend John Barreto from Bahrain has been working on Konkani Karaoke music for some time now. We tried our best to remove the voice from the Konkani songs with help of softwares available on net.. but could not succeed. However John has not given up and is now singing konkani songs with

[Goanet] Pai Panandiker on Goa

2007-07-17 Thread Philip Thomas
Politically, Goa has been far more stable than most parts of thecountry. No great ideological rifts create social cleavages in Goa.Goa maintains a social and political equilibrium, which has grown outof a sense of realization that ultimately the future lies in workingtogether regardless of

Re: [Goanet] Bhandare's Musings - response for Bosco

2007-07-17 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Mon Jul 16 14:00:38 PDT 2007, Bhandare wrote: I believe that if someone contributes money to an organization which then uses that money to protect pedophiles then that is equivalent to condoning pedophilia. RESPONSE: Good for you! As per your wisdom, Texans who pay their state taxes are

[Goanet] The original Goan boat cruise (2)

2007-07-17 Thread Mario Goveia
The Original Goan Boat Cruise...though Loveboat it definitely wasn't!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=kzH-BUVRzig

Re: [Goanet] Reminiscences of my Goan Youth: The First Mass

2007-07-17 Thread Aureo Mendes Da Piedade
Señor Marcos Catao; I quite enjoyed to read your First Mass.It came to me old memorys .I was in Rachol Seminary for 2-3 years.My perfeito was father Antonio Souza and our dean at that time was Monsenhor Agapito Lourenço.I don´t remember the year .I´m leaving in Spain more than 40 years .

[Goanet] Time to get real about Goa's urbanisation rate?

2007-07-17 Thread Philip Thomas
'Our urban future stands revised' The implications of an India [Goa!?] urbanising faster than earlier thought YOGINDER K ALAGH http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=170206 According to the Census of 2001, some Census towns are non-statutory towns and are actually rural

Re: [Goanet] Catholic Schools - Something for Nothing.

2007-07-17 Thread Carvalho
--- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it is fashionable in some quarters in Indian politics to bash missionaries and Christian institutions after those same politicians studied there or have they children enrolled. Of course, hypocrisy is not the exclusive preserve of Indian

Re: [Goanet] Translation of lyrics

2007-07-17 Thread borg costa
Hi Domnic, Dev Borem Korum tuvem 'Scientist' hea kantarcheo lyrics goa-net'ar gatleo mhun. Maka-i hea cassette'tlim soglim kantaram borim lagleat. Hanvem hi cassette don pautti ghetle ek pautt Goeant ani dusre pautt hanv Dubai ailo tedna. Punn donui pautt mojea ixttanim aikonk mhunnon magon veli

Re: [Goanet] Evolutionist Kevin?

2007-07-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Response: There you go again Santosh with those words totally wrong. Of late, you've even begun calling for the pastoral exile of people who you find totally wrong. Very disappointing that was coming from you. I had truly held you in much higher esteem.

[Goanet] Mapuca A Gutter Re: Vol 2, Issue 585

2007-07-17 Thread rui nuvo
Hei Albert, My earlier posting on the subject did not get much response from readers either. Presumably, many of our readers have never been to Mapuca to see what a wreck it has been reduced to or people no longer go to towns because successive Goa Administrations succeeded in bringing the

Re: [Goanet] The multiple personalities of posters

2007-07-17 Thread Carvalho
--- KAMALAKSH CHARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and he dint touched even a single cross, or ghumti, or chappel or any mosques which created nuisance to free flow of traffic. -- It is quite a curious fact that atleast two or maybe even three posters on this

Re: [Goanet] Pai Panandiker on Goa

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Well, I thought about this while circulating the quote, which incidentally met my goal of spurring on (some) discussion. Goa, stable? Isn't NDTV and all the rest reminding us at every possible opportunity about this 15-governments-in-14-years or whatever it is thingy (I've lost count and don't

Re: [Goanet] Who is a fascist

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Was Salazar a fascist in the strict definition of the word? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_de_Oliveira_Salazar Salazar's regime was dictatorial. His political philosophy was based around Catholic social doctrine, much like the contemporary regime of Engelbert Dollfuss in Austria. The

Re: [Goanet] Thanks for info on acco. in delhi

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Thank you Suhas. You are reminding us what Goanet once was -- a helpful place, where people helped each other. Not scored cheap debating points (like I too sometimes do) over each other, and take up my-bigots-are-better-than-your-bigot positions. --FN On 17/07/07, Suhas Gaonkar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Goanet] Goa to Portugal - the journey of art .............the three-day Global Goan Convention in Lisbon

2007-07-17 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 16/07/07, Henrique Salles da Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ANSWER to ...probably see more Goans on trains in London !: Because Goans in Portugal are wealthy integrated persons and mainly use private cars. Best regards, Henrique Salles da Fonseca RESPONSE: Wow! If owning a car or

Re: [Goanet] Goa to Portugal - the journey of art .......thethree-day Global Goan Convention in Lisbon (Gabe Menezes /Jose Colaco)

2007-07-17 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
Dear Shashikant, With respect I have to tell you that what you write is complete nonsense. You cannot ignore the history of bad relations between Portugal and India. 1. In 1961, Estado da India Portuguesa (including Goa) was an almost autonomous province with local government and local

[Goanet] That special tribe of NRIs from East Africa

2007-07-17 Thread Gabe Menezes
I saw this on Goan Voice UK (http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/) and thought I'd share it here. Would the Goans brought up in East Africa also fit the bill ? Are Goans, originally from East Africa, a lot different from Goans elsewhere ? That special tribe of NRIs from East Africa 16 Jul, 2007, 1045

Re: [Goanet] Bhandare's Musings - response for Bosco

2007-07-17 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 21:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHy does Vidydhar Gadgil only forward articles about the alleged anti social activities of RSS while being silent about the activities of other antisocials who are not affiliated with RSS? i mean does that mean that vidhydhar is

Re: [Goanet] The original Goan boat cruise (2)

2007-07-17 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 17/07/07, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Original Goan Boat Cruise...though Loveboat it definitely wasn't!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=kzH-BUVRzig RESPONSE: Thanks for illuminating us ! This was shown here, on this forum before and posted on Youtube by Joe U.K. Just when we

[Goanet] Ben Antao's new novel: The Tailor's Daughter

2007-07-17 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
The Tailor's Daughter--captivating, a gigantic treat A review by Bill MacDonald I finished reading The Tailor’s Daughter and found it thoroughly captivating. What captivating characters and exotic, authentic setting! Makes me long for palm trees and ocean beaches. It intrigues me how three of

[Goanet] Disconnect between the haves and have-nots?

2007-07-17 Thread Philip Thomas
Measuring satisfaction Business Standard / New Delhi July 17, 2007 Does India have an unusually large chasm between its leaders and followers? So it would seem, judging by some recent multi-country surveys. For instance, Ipsos sought out elite opinion (mostly politicians and businessmen) on how

[Goanet] Hea Gharachim Dharam Bondh....! - Lara Production Entertainment all set to captivate Goans!

2007-07-17 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
LARA Production Entertainment presents Hea Gharachim Dharam Bondh...! in Goa Releasing this August! Laurente Pereira - Outstanding No. 1 Director of No. 1 shows in Kuwait Tujea Upkar, Lokanchim Tonddam Bondh, now presents Kuwait's superhit No. 1 Tiatr Hea Gharachim Dharam Bondh...!. Music

[Goanet] Pai Panandicara on Goa

2007-07-17 Thread Bernado Colaco
Sorry we were peaceful before 61. This RSS thingy and the rest is a post invasion situation. Here is a list of Hindu business people in Pangim: Angley, , Caculo, Hede, Bhorno, Hegde, Heble, Keni, Vernekar, Kantak, Pai, Vaidya, Naik, Gaunekar, Ghanekar, Tarcar. Compare this to one miserly Velho e

[Goanet] Pai Panandiker on Goa

2007-07-17 Thread Philip Thomas
the point is that despite the many government political topplingsour politicians are pretty much the same. As bad or as good. Despitethe hype and rhetoric of some. As far as 'ideological rifts' areconcerned, they all share their same pro-business, pro-'development'approach (which basically means

[Goanet] WildGoa Event: Croc Release into the Rier Zuari at 5pm Tuesday, 17th

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
WildGoa Event: Croc Release into the Rier Zuari at 5pm Tuesday, 17th Posted by: Clinton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] klintvaz Date: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:56 pm ((PDT)) Hi WildGoa, Sometimes things come up last minute, and this is once such incident. Hansel, my brother and fellow WildGoan came across

Re: [Goanet] Who is a fascist

2007-07-17 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I am ONLY commenting on this post because I have been mentioned by name. I would like to make four short points. 1. This gratuitous post says much about the 'deep concern' that Cornel feels for the Dalits and a lack of dialogue between these two guys on the brutality that Dalits suffer in

[Goanet] song on the goanet

2007-07-17 Thread Albert Desouza
Dear friends How do you post a tune of the song on the goanet or on internet? Like I have a song and I want to sing it and post it on the net how do you do the same? I have heard lots of konkani songs sent by joeuk but I often wonder how it is done albert de souza

Re: [Goanet] Bhandares Musings

2007-07-17 Thread Sunith Velho
Bosco, How could you accuse Bhandare of being anti-Catholic. He is by his own logic a supporter of the United Methodist Church. After all he contributes a large portion of his earnings to the US government, an organisation headed by a Methodist. Whats worse is that he also provides

Re: [Goanet] Bhandare's Musings - response for Bosco

2007-07-17 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 17/07/07, Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is becoming repetitive and hence rather tedious, so I will have my say on the matter one last time and then drop the matter. I am against all types of communalism and fundamentalism (as various posts of mine on this forum in the past

[Goanet] Masjid for Every Village Re: Vol 2, Issue 590

2007-07-17 Thread rui nuvo
Hei Folks, Every village in Goa has a church or chapel, a temple or shrine so why not a masjid for every village. I have no idea from what village Bhandare comes from or whether he is a Goan or not. If Bhandare would welcome a masjid into his village that would ease the pressure on Chinchinim

[Goanet] Reply to Fredrick

2007-07-17 Thread Albert Desouza
Dear Fredrico The idea of writing about sun god is to give information to people.There are lots of things that we follow today in Roman Catholicism that has come from the egyptians.There are many churches still have the embelm of the sun on the main altar.Reverened Fr.that we use to

Re: [Goanet] Evolutionist Kevin?

2007-07-17 Thread Carvalho
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The scientific method has not yet yielded a detailed complete natural explanation for the conscious mind. However, we know that the idea that it exists independently of the brain is inconsistent with an overwhelming body of objective evidence.

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 592

2007-07-17 Thread KAMALAKSH CHARI
--- KAMALAKSH CHARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and he dint touched even a single cross, or ghumti, or chappel or any mosques which created nuisance to free flow of traffic. -- It is quite a curious fact that atleast two or maybe even three posters on this

[Goanet] Goa news for July 18, 2007

2007-07-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** House congratulates Joaquim on becoming GFA President (Deepika) Panaji, July 17 (UNI) Cutting across party lines, the Goa Legislative Assembly today unanimously adopted a motion

[Goanet] The Deity of Truth ref Vol 2, Issue 591

2007-07-17 Thread rui nuvo
Hei Folks, Humanity Does not owe anyone a dime, except the Deity of Truth ? The argument about Truth is very much like that of getting a room in the Infinite Hotel Hilbert's paradox. We seek the truth and that is all we can say. We owe to ourselves for goodness sake and not to a Deity. We have

[Goanet] Bhnadares Musings- reply to Bosco

2007-07-17 Thread Bhandare
BOSCO: Good for you! As per your wisdom, Texans who pay their state taxes are murderers since their tax-dollars are used to send people to the nether-world on a one-way ticket. BHANDARE: The last time I checked Texans dont pay state tax, and even if they did, in case you dont know, taxes are

[Goanet] While we fight on history...Goa is being looted...

2007-07-17 Thread cedrico dacosta
While we fight on histroy...Goa is being looted... Dear Goanetterswhile we fight if Bhandare's Krishna was a womaniser or our St Francis was a mass murderer... While we argue if late Alfred Rose wrote the lyrics or Wilmix, Who actually blew and distributed the first condom in Goa... If

Re: [Goanet] Goa now a listing on CraigsList

2007-07-17 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Pandu Lampiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google-owned Craigs List, a mostly free and well-used small-ad advertising-on-the internet service (Goanetters from N Am/some parts of Europe, Oz may be familiar) now has Goa as a listing: http://goa.craigslist.org/ Folks, I replied to the above

[Goanet] MAUVIN ELECTED DEPUTY SPEAKER

2007-07-17 Thread godfrey gonsalves
Cortalim MLA Mr Mauvin Godinho of the INC finally made it to the Deputy Speaker's Chair this afternoon after MLA Curtorim Mr Aleixo Lourenco of the SGF failed to do so. The Poinguinim MLA Mr Ramesh Tawadkar of the BJP was also in the fray. With this CM Mr Digamber Kamat has his slate cleared

Re: [Goanet] Evolutionist Kevin?

2007-07-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going through the same argument over and over again. Which argument? Please state it clearly. Just because something is unproveable at the present time, does not mean it will be unproveable sometime in the future. What will be provable in

[Goanet] Dev Borem Korum Re: Vol 2, Issue 591

2007-07-17 Thread rui nuvo
Hei Gebe Menezes and Borg Costa, Just for my benefit can you confirm whether it is 'Dev Borem Korum' or 'Deo Borem Korum'. Every time I see Dev ., it sort of jars my mind perhaps because I have always heard it as Deo .. I understand Deo = God but has Dev a different meaning? I have

[Goanet] Thus Spake The Hindu

2007-07-17 Thread Philip Thomas
In places such as Visakhapatnam, the very location of the airport needs to be reviewed. During the monsoon season and in winter, this airport in coastal Andhra Pradesh, remains out of commission most of the days.{In The Hindu's editorial 'Overcoming a Bottleneck']

Re: [Goanet] Bhandares Musings

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Guruji must be turning in his grave! Sunith Velho Sunith, Wot men? Your Christao slip is showing. Guruji ain't had no grave. FN

[Goanet] Bernado Colaco on Was: Pai Panandicara on Goa

2007-07-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
What's your point, Bernardo? That Hindu businessmen lorded over colonial Goa? That's just a conveniently selected argument. You're frame of reference is obviously post-1910. Before that date (and the Republican Revolution in Portugal), discrimination against Hindus was a given in a theocratic

[Goanet] Goa to Portugal - the journey of art - final response to Shashikant

2007-07-17 Thread J . Colaço
Shashikant wrote (and I have placed it in point format) - My answers follow his post. 1)Why has the portuguese government not obtain the records of Birth,marriage, death from the respective registrars of Goa, daman diu and all these years ridiculously wasted in allegations. 2)One cannot