What has been written in the response below to my comment has no relationship
with what I said. It is a well established understanding that science only
deals with natural phenomena, and provides rational natural explanations for
them. Science has nothing to do with anybody's parochial
Goa was conquered by the Portuguese in 1510. India conquered Goa in 1961. Most
Goans living in Goa today consider themselves Indian. Why would they want to
vote for Goa Su-Raj whose founder does not consider himself an Indian, and
holds Goa's independence from India as his ideal goal?
Cheers,
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
We have several Eucharistic miracles, but we should remember that of
Lanciano, Italy, in the 8th century, when medical anatomy was not yet
developed. Till today it is confirmed by modern science.
No miracle of any faith has been confirmed by
I understand the diatribe against Uday Bhembro. But I have a hard time making
sense of the contradictory claims made in the post appended below:
1. Does Goa Su-Raj party want to establish the pre-1961 dictatorial
administration or continue with a democratic one?
2. Does it want Goa to secede
Bosco and George have got it all wrong. I have figured out what Gilbert is
trying to tell us in multiple parts. From his prior contributions we should
know that besides discovering accurate cancer and cold remedies, his
grandmother or mauxi knew Goan history more accurately than anyone. What he
I was waiting with bated breath to find out what Part 3 of Regurgitating Goa's
History would reveal. Now that it is here I am relieved (no pun intended in
the context of spoon feeding and regurgitation).
I notice that in this part Gilbert asks us to read humor in it. He also asks
some
In the peer-reviewed biomedical literature there are two papers reporting
correlations between reduced habitation of house sparrows around cell phone
towers, but no evidence for dying of these birds due to radio frequency
electromagnetic waves emitted by cell phones or towers. There is also no
I am dying to find out the name of the secret book that gives Gilbert the
correct version of Goan history. Both Fr. Ivo and I had requested this
information from him after he had written Part 1 of this thread.
How does Gilbert have the privileged historical information and insights that
no
I request Ferdinando to kindly not offer quack diagnosis of medical conditions
on Goanet. It is not the ethical thing to do for a physician. This has nothing
to do with the fact that he is not a qualified medical expert in the field in
question.
Speaking of expertise, none of the ministers,
It looks like Ferdinando has not read and/or understood the WHO document he has
asked me to read. I would ask interested people to read it and find out for
yourself. It thoroughly vindicates my contention regarding lack of evidence
about harmful effects of radio frequency electromagnetic waves.
Here is a news item in Science, one of the world's most prestigious science
journals, expressing bafflement over this inexplicable bureaucratic Indian
government report in the face of lack of scientific evidence for any harm
caused by mobile phones and towers to human beings of any nationality
There is a lot of truth to what Rajan is saying below. Popular journalists and
most readers have a hard time understanding what constitutes genuine
achievement in science. I have found that they are unable to appreciate what
motivates a person to pursue original scientific research as a
Here is accurate information from responsible public health organizations,
namely World Health Organization, U. S. FDA, U. S. National Cancer Institute
and American Cancer Society regarding lack of reproducible evidence for any
harm caused by mobile phones and mobile phone towers:
I too am interested in knowing which book Gilbert is reading for his
revisionist account of Goan history.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 2/1/11, icso...@bsnl.in icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Recently I have been reading a number of regurgitated
The Huffington Post article linked below contains misleading information
regarding cholesterol and cholesterol lowering drugs. Please see the following
link provided by the American Heart Association for accurate information:
http://tinyurl.com/GoanetCorrection4
Cheers,
Santosh
On 30
--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
wrote:
4- No human is born a vegetarian. Neither is he or any animal nursed as a
vegetarian as they drink their mother’s milk. Being a vegetarian is purely a
neurotic behaviour one tends to grow up with based on
--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Fausto Da Costa fau...@vsnl.net wrote:
Can a psychologically divided man (or woman) be at ease with himself or
herself ...?
I assume this question refers to the condition of holding two contradictory
world views in one's mind at the same time. If so, the answer to this
--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote:
Can a psychologically divided man (or woman) be at ease
with himself or
herself ...?
I assume this question refers to the condition of holding
two contradictory world views in one's mind at the same
time. If so, the answer
--- On Mon, 1/24/11, Charudatt Prabhudesai char-...@hotmail.com wrote:
You seem to have a myopic view of the religion you were
born into. Perhaps you are scientifically
prejudiced against it. Or may be you are just fashionable
modernist doctor preaching 'objectivism',
knowing quite fully
Now that Dr. Parrikar has announced that he has photographed the Hindu priests
with his special camera in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, what he says must be true.
Even though this announcement can now be automatically accessed on Google,
Google should take special note of this fact. A picture is
--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:
The question I have is:
Are the successful religious figures so because they preach
what people
want to hear or are they so because of the rewards people
heap on them?
Mervyn,
In my opinion, the answer depends on whether one
I have learned the following things from the responses of the two or three
Hindu religionists on Goanet:
1. They are unnecessarily defensive about the progress made by their religion
in the world of business and free markets.
2. They believe that engaging in business and capitalism, and
--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Christians like to think that they invented love, as Americans like to think
they invented freedom. Did love not exist before Jesus Christ, and was there
no freedom before the birth of the USA? What fun!
I think the
On 23 January 2011 08:46, Joao Barros-Pereira joaobarrospere...@gmail.com
wrote:
How do priests of other religions control their believers? Would the
three or four Hindus on Goanet care to comment on their religion?
I am a Hindu in name and by the accident of birth only. But let me answer the
I know where Dr. Desai gets his information about Hindu priests from, and
understand why he would have a different perspective about Hindu religion as a
good business world wide, as good as the other major religions.
But I have no idea from where Dr. Parrikar got his information about Hindu
One of the problems of public discourse today is that you are
inundated with crazy nonsense. It comes not just from rabid partisans,
ideologues and bigots, but also from people whom you would otherwise
believe to be mainstream and reasonable. This is a worldwide
phenomenon, amplified by the growth
How many characters are there in Goa who want to make Goa special
administrative region of China? One or two?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sat, 1/15/11, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Oscar,
I blame all those Goans involved in the events of 61.
Recently I challenged Valmiki
Bernado,
I am not sure if Jason has named you as the Catholic bigot from the east. It
could be someone else. Regarding the Catholic and Hindu bigots on GX please
feel free to ridicule them in that forum. I will post this response of yours
there.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sat, 1/8/11, Bernado
It is a bad idea to respond to communally charged rhetoric or abuse by
mounting a communal attack in return. Even though real bigots deserve
what they get personally, the majority of the people in their community are
good and decent. They do not deserve to be attacked or offended. Recognizing
Catholic bigots are harmless folk. They do not have any political following. So
they are best ridiculed for laughs. The Hindu right, on the other hand, has a
significant political following. While the extreme elements among them have no
chance of coming back to power, it is important to not let
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--- On Sat, 1/1/11, rajendra kakodkar rskakod...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
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To Santosh Helekar: a special Happy Corruption Free New
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I am indeed hoping that 2011 would be like 2006 with another 0.4 point jump in
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Here are answers to Ferdinando's questions.
1. Moral studies for most children in the world are conducted by their parents.
Most schools in India or anywhere else do not have moral studies as a subject.
Those convent schools in India that were teaching moral science as a subject
before 1961
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, literate, postgraduate,
medical doctor recently
was even on the Municipal election podium campaigning for
an illiterate. If
literate, postgraduates have such a perception, what can
one expect from school
dropouts who are Ministers? And governing our Education
system?
Santosh Helekar wrote
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Dear Rajendra,
Are you suggesting that your own perception and that of six of your friends
captures the corruption trend better than an index derived from 14 scientific
surveys of thousands of people in India?
Let me put it this way. Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions
Index
Goanetters annual year-end meet is on Dec 27, 2010 (Monday) from 4-6 pm at
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Bernadak Konknni gomona. To Chini cadoyen ravta. Tya bhair tazi lait petpak
kustar. Chini zero watt bulb fokannache re te.
Tallyo,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Jerom Temudo jeromtem...@ymail.com wrote:
Arre baba Bernad Culas,
Tu ekdom oli xac mure. Santoshik tu clue na mhunta,
Bernado,
I appreciate the apology. Is your cabal asking you to unite Portugal with India
or India with China?
Merry Christmas to you!
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi Santosh,
Apologies to what came out of my mouth. Your cabal has now
Dona Curiosa sent me and a list of undisclosed recipients the following link:
http://www.dancingsantacard.com/en/?santa=499837
She believes I am Santa Claus. No doubt about it. Santa Claus is real.
Ho, Ho, Ho. Merry Christmas!
Cheers,
Santosh
I am trying to figure out why we hear this grunting and barking on Goanet from
these non-Indians.
Cheers,
Santosh
Sent from my iPod
On Dec 22, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis
Falcãodrferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Bernado Colaco wrote : Now I understand why Santos
--- On Tue, 12/21/10, Charudatt Prabhudesai char-...@hotmail.com wrote:
Just for record, politically speaking (religious fundamentalism is going to
be the one major force in world politics in the near future, whether we like
it or not - against the left bloc) Goa has best chance to align with
The problems that Goa faces today have nothing to do with India or the
Portuguese. They have nothing to do with invasion, colonialism, liberation,
independence, freedom fighters, democracy, religion, intellectuals or lack
thereof. The blame lies entirely with the people of Goa. It boils down to
I forgot to add another reason as to why the blame lies squarely with the
people of Goa, not the rest of India or Portugal. It is the constant whining
about everything and everybody else without assuming personal responsibility
for anything.
Cheers,
Santosh
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Can someone please rebut, if possible, the statements quoted from the
historians M. N. Pearson and J. N. Fonseca in the following article by
Nandkumar?
Cheers,
Santosh
BY NANDKUMAR KAMAT
UNLIKE some slavish neo-Salazarist and culturally rootless
and confused
Goans, the Portuguese who
There is no need for Science to take into account what any religion
says because Science has nothing to do with the supernatural and the
superstitious. Whether any religion wants to pay heed to Science, is
up to its leaders and followers. Most exponents of Science couldn't
care less. So a
Dear Selma,
My own views are these. I disagree with the material that both Deepak Chopra
and Rajiv Malhotra have written on Huffington Post and elsewhere. Indeed, most
of what they write does not make any sense to me. Promotion of New Age crap is
as detrimental to intellectual progress as
2010/12/12 Ivo icso...@bsnl.in:
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From: Santosh Helekar
I would like to kindly request Fr. Ivo Souza, Gilbert Lawrence and
Roland Francis to not involve my name in their gratuitous flame baits
and fabrications on Goanet.
Fr. Ivo wrote:
P.S.: I am sure that Rachol
to have hit upon a successful strategy: . Shabash Gilbert!
You have innocently but effectively put paid to the machiavellism of Santosh
Helekar, Jose Colaco and even that of George Sudharop.
--- GL responds.
I am a slow learner! Lets hope my simple strategy STYMIES the
pseudo
Dear Selma,
Thanks for your kindness. What you have done is quite rare on Goanet nowadays -
a self-examination and admission of error. So you need to be congratulated. I
must also say that your post has made me re-examine all my biases, most of
which I have confessed in my last post, and on
--- On Sat, 12/11/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Santosh,
It appears I am not a woman of my word. I said you could
have the last one and I take that back. First off, I haven't attacked you, I
have merely pointed out a reality as I see it - realities maybe distorted.
That your
--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
But the validity of the article can be easily tested thus: Try getting an
article published in a respectable outlet which says Hinduism or Islam is an
intolerant religion in the US or any Western democracy. There will
be an
--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
You are as protective about Hinduism as I am about Christianity. I have no
problem with that, it is what any member belonging to a certain community
would do. I have a problem only when you try to convince us of
your
--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
Response:
I went through the above article. I did not find any criticism of Hinduism as
claimed by Santosh. In fact the article is merely a reporting of the violence
against christians in Kandhamal,Orissa in 2008 by
as boorishness, Dr
Helekar?
- Original Message
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list
goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 9:28:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Renationalisation in a Flat
World-III
Nandakumar has
Nandakumar has written a very provocative, but reasonably substantive, article
full of statements regarding Goa's history. I for one would like to see a good
honest debate about it on factual grounds rather than the usual communal
insinuations, innuendo, flame baits and boorishness that we see
--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
And here we thought cancer was caused by gene mutation of
tumor suppressor gene, etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_suppressor_gene
I have no idea how someone with some knowledge about cancer can jump to this
I had initiated this thread by presenting facts that contradict several myths
perpetuated on Goanet. Here is that post of mine:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-December/202417.html
If you read that post, you will find that nowhere have I even mentioned Admin
Noronha's
Here is what I want to tell people who might be misled into believing the
opposite of what the world-renowned British medical skeptic Ben Goldacre is
saying in the article linked in the post appended below.
Ben Goldacre is a medical scientist who has made his life's work to debunk
quackery
In his last post in this thread Admin Noronha told us that he has had his last
word. But quite predictably, even that was not a truthful assertion from him. I
guess he had not had his last innuendo or word salad.
In what he has written below it appears that he has been offended by the fact
Please read the following post written on Goanet a few weeks ago refuting such
unwarranted and unsupported scares from lay news websites:
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg69815.html
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
I hope Vasant responds to Marshall's flame bait, now that it has been allowed
by some Goanet moderator. But knowing a little bit of how Vasant is opposed to
baits leading to public smears and guilt by association, he is most likely to
ignore it.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Marshall
Dear Josebab,
Regarding cost, when it comes to Goans, and my friends, relatives and guests,
my time is free. So for me the value of effectiveness divided by cost is
infinite, no matter how small the value of effectiveness is. But more
importantly, any rational fact-based write up in the public
scientist's dream to improve
upon or overthrow a previously held best scientific explanation.
UNQUOTE
.Santosh Helekar
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg51114.html
QUOTE
Noronha claimed in his previous post that science is an ideology which has gone
through phases
--- On Fri, 12/3/10, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
For instance, I do not understand why Santoshbab tries to correct the
unsupportable views of every Con, Dona and Larry on GoaNet.
Not all unsupportable views of every Con, Dona and Larry. Only those
unsupportable views in which I
--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Gilbert definitely isn't saying there was no Inquisition. He's questioning
the manner in which the Inquisition has been written about
over the years, then and now, and by whom.
Like him, I see a Black Legend being
--- On Thu, 12/2/10, samir umarye samir.uma...@gmail.com wrote:
BICHOLIM DEC 2: The Sanatan Sanstha claiming that the Congress government in
the state is all up to destroying the Hindu organisations asked the people
to work towards creating Hindu nation where all the religions will be
say. This is the way U operate, known
mischief maker, quoting out of context etc.
I think U should ask Fr. Ivo for a 'God's Blessing' to get
Reason back in your life.
Nascimento.
--- On Thu, 2/12/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
This nascimentation appears to be
wild
Goanet has been used by both right wing and left wing ideologues, such as
apologists for colonialism, anti-scientific and anti-establishment activists,
anti-capitalist or communist ideologues, religious chauvinists, communal
propagandists, and promoters of alternative medicine and other
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-ullman/how-scientific-
is-modern_b_543158.html
This article on the Huffington Post political website was posted several months
ago by Gilbert. At that time this is what I had written:
MY QUOTE
It
This nascimentation appears to be wild fabrication out of thin air. Charudatt's
words are his own, not mine. He, like Vasant, has rightly sensed the problem.
As far as debating nascimentality is concerned, I will tell Forsu who drinks
the right kind of bootlegged cheap feni to subscribe to
Hi Vasant,
I eat beef and pork. But I like fish sold by fisherwomen who are also looked
down upon by some of the same foreign Goencar, even though these ladies eat
beef and pork like me. I am sure you have noted that the problem that this
Indian is facing is how to transplant this imported
--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
The role models have been there all along in our society - some small time
heroes and others big, but our Goan (both Catholic and Hindu) society has
always been one of tolerance and progressive, liberal thought and it bothers
me
--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
This is the reason I at least, Stand Tall and look down on all other Goans!
Sabash!
I hope there is no more than a few such beings anywhere, including down under,
who look down on other Goans. I am certain that Selma is not
Goanet appears to be evenly balanced between pro-Portuguese, anti-Portuguese,
pro-India and anti-India sentiments. As far as religion is concerned, however,
it is a little bit more anti-Hindu, anti-Muslim and anti-secular than
anti-Christian and anti-atheistic.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sun,
This sounds like the classic Stockholm syndrome, as referred to in the
following article:
Please see - http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268052
Here is the quote:
QUOTE
“I used to think that the Goan aristocrats, with their adoration of and
nostalgia for Portuguese rule, suffer from
,
Santosh
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
wrote:
On Sat Nov 20 20:47:57 PST 2010 Santosh Helekar chimbelcho
at
yahoo.com wrote: I am disappointed that you
could not answer simple
straightforward questions regarding your qualifications
--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
wrote:
COMMENT : May I ask Santosh what denied
freedom is he talking about? Only freedom of speech?
Or Freedom to spit all over the walls of the city?
Freedom to defecate by the roadside? Freedom to loot, rob,
The philosophical views and the personal feelings of Admin Noronha expressed
below have no connection with the topic of this thread. These musings also do
not contribute anything significant or substantive to what is taught and
practiced as science in the world today. They are in stark
I would like to comment on inaccurate statements made in the article provided
below, as they pertain to something being scientific or unscientific. I have no
interest in discussing the author's religious beliefs. He like everybody else
is entitled to practice his own religion. But to
that Santosh Helekar doesn't like or
agree with.
Smearing of people means critising someone Helekar likes
or wouldn't
like criticised. (Santosh only corrects illiteracy, it's
the others
who do all the smearing...) Privileged access to a
publications
applies to writings Helekar doesn't like
Ferdinando,
Ever since you have been active on Goanet, you have tried to claim that you
have superior qualifications and knowledge, and you belong to a higher class in
Goan society. You use the Dr. prefix. You believe you are not as ignorant as
Oscar Rebello and me about Goan history. You have
Having been impressed by Ferdinando's superior sense of humor, President
Pandurang is thinking about offering him the rare honor of being the second
Purtugez Goan to be inducted into the Urban Dictionary. The word that will
represent him in that hallowed institution is the verb to dressfalcon.
Mr. Ferdinando,
I am disappointed that you could not answer simple straightforward questions
regarding your qualifications and the pre-1961 history of Goa. I am sorry to
say this, but this tells me that all the claims you have made regarding your
knowledge and qualifications are bogus. I
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On 18 November 2010 21:42, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
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Indeed,
you are worse because, unlike them,
you do it as part of your professional
writing, abusing
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