--- On Fri, 11/19/10, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Now a new definiton of terrorism is
being created below. It is OK to bomb and
cause mayhem to economic activities and that is not terror.
So there was no
9/11.
Bernado,
Do you know that over 3000 innocent people were
deep rooted in you!
Get well soon please! We miss your SANE? advise on goanet!
At least that is what you seem to think! Saiba Bogus!
Nascimento Caldeira (continued below)
--- On Thu, 18/11/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
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The problem with this fake supurlo Goencar is he never practices what he
preaches. For example, despite what he claims here, he is invariably the first
person to shoot the messenger, as he has done with Charles Dellon, Claudius
Buchanan, Anant Priolkar and Alfredo De Mello in connection with
--- On Mon, 11/1/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anywhere in the rest of the world, you could be sued for racism. I can't
seriously imagine a British politician or an American businessman standing
infront of an audience and telling them that only a White can truly
understand
I would like to comment on a recent Goanet post on meditation and the brain.
The reason scientists are studying meditation and spiritual experiences is
because they have been recognized as natural phenomena that are in need of
demystification by applying the rigorous method of science. Indeed,
It is clear from the literature that we do not know much about the history of
inquisition in Goa. Recently, one of our prominent Goan historians had chalked
out a promising research project to translate some primary sources stored in
the national library in Brazil. A few of us were enthusiastic
Here are some observations. Finally, the cat is out of the bag. It looks like
Gilbert's guide to medical science and practice of medicine is Arianna
Huffington, a wealthy socialite and a TV political pundit who has no medical or
scientific qualifications. He also appears to be desperately
First, let me say that I am very happy that Ferdinando has resolved not to
defend the indefensible bogus claims regarding aspartame that he has been
circulating on Goanet from fake conspiratorial websites and urban
legend-containing chain emails that he has received in his inbox.
Second,
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Bosco D bos...@canada.com wrote:
On the other hand Santosh's link is authored by Dr Rahul K. Parikh,
a physician and writer in the San Francisco Bay Area. I
would think the medical fraternity would look to Ornish more
favourably than Parikh.
Dean Ornish is not looked
Please do not trust the political/ideological website entitled The Huffington
Post insofar as medical and health-related information is concerned. Please
read this article in Salon magazine by Dr. Rahul Parikh on the dubious
information and opinions that it promotes:
that medical doctors are
bound by Hippocratic Oath. I would suggest he reads and
understands the Oath here:
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20909
Santosh Helekar wrote
: …. The information regarding aspartame
that you have provided on Goanet
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
ps: Dr. Elst of Belgium is a longtime friend of the Hindus,
but he is not an uncritical friend.
The question really is whether a longtime friend of the Hindus really
objective, relies on facts and considers all facts in an
--- On Sun, 10/24/10, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:
3) As a bonus, can you list what else you are not certain
about so that 'sensible medical doctors' can remain on the same
wavelength as you.
Mervyn,
The only medical doctor who is on the same wavelength as Mr. Ferdinando is
the
--- On Sun, 10/24/10, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:
Was Mr. Jagdish Surlakar (not Surlikar ;-) not Dr J. M.
Surlakar? Or was that his father?
People's High School was started by Mr. Manguesh Fondu Surlakar. Dr. Jagdish
Manguesh Surlakar was his son, who became principal of the
. Ferdinando,
I am a real human being. My name is really Santosh Helekar, not a fake name
like Dona Curiosa. I have studied obstetrics and preventive medicine in the
same medical college you have. I have also answered all your questions. Here is
the link to that post of mine:
http
Please do not trust the misinformation provided in the post appended below.
Reliable medical sources state that aspartame is safe during pregnancy. Please
see the following from the public interest aspartame information center run by
the non-profit Calorie Control Council:
Mr. Ferdinando,
I am happy to answer your questions below. But I would also like to kindly
request you to answer mine in response to this post. Here are my questions:
1. Can you as a general medical practitioner tell me in which recognized
medical textbook or journal you have read the
There is no truth to the claims made in the post appended below. In particular,
the claim that there is a controversy about the safety of aspartame among
scientists is completely false. To add to the public health information from
reliable sources that I have already provided, I quote below
I am forwarding below an announcement that I have received from the Director
for NRI Affairs, Goa. The requisite application can be obtained at the
following link as a Microsoft Word file:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/files/Know_Goa_Programme_2010.doc
Cheers,
Santosh
Bosco has already pointed out how misinformation regarding aspartame is being
spread in this thread through bogus websites. Interspersed below I correct all
the false statements made by Ferdinando, some of which involve
misrepresentations of what I said.
--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Dr. Ferdinando
As promised in my last post in this thread, I provide below a brief review of
the Boutron et al JAMA paper for the lay public. In doing so, I will answer the
questions that needed to be answered in the first place. These answers should
make it clear to those who have followed this thread why
This is my consolidated refutation of the factually erroneous statements made
in the two posts appended below.
The claim that just because one obtains more than 60,000 hits on Google by
searching for the phrase aspartame, genetically modified, it must be true, is
naive and demonstrably false.
I have already told you why one should not trust any weblink provided by
somebody on Goanet, or through chain emails. We find once again in the post
appended below the following bogus assertion:
That Research at Massachusetts Institute of Technology have proved it to be
harmful and
Like Admin Noronha, I too do not see that this guy is claiming that his world
is better than someone else's. His proposal is that mythology and traditions
shape people's ways of behaving and doing business. While there is some truth
in this view from the subjective standpoint, the problem I see
Please read the following information to guard against unsubstantiated claims
regarding public health:
http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Interesting article in the link
below
Please see
--- On Fri, 10/15/10, Bosco D bos...@canada.com wrote:
I would caution against distributing such unfounded information to anybody.
Nobody can prevent such unfounded information from being distributed on Goanet
or by chain emails. The only thing that one can do on Goanet is provide
Gilbert is now taking out his frustrations about Goanetters who have exposed
his follies by smearing and insinuating their innocent families who have
nothing to do with Gilbert or Goanet. What a shameful thing to do!
BTW, all responses to such abusive posts are already being posted on
The information provided in the post appended below is not accurate. Please see
the following responsible sources for accurate information on aspartame:
http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.265/healthissue_detail.asp
Mr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão here appears not to be able to see himself well
in his mirror. In a thread that is supposed to be about science for sale he is
expressing his casteist prejudice against fisherwomen, stereotyping and abusing
them in a cheap manner.
The main topic in this thread
In his previous post Gilbert thanked me for providing him with the original
paper by Boutron et al, and promised Goanetters that he would read that paper,
and offer them his analysis of it. He starts his latest post appended below by
claiming that it is his review of that paper.
But if he
Dear Josebab,
I agree that the judgment is confusing. My only lay sense from what I could
glean from it is that it is an imperfect compromise. What I would have liked to
see is if the judges had found a way to make some ruling that would prevent
Hindu extremists and others like them from
I have no idea why the archeological evidence had to be refuted at all. This
case should have been decided on the basis of the question of whether in a
secular democracy people ought to be allowed to rebuild original religious
structures by demolishing all the currently existing structures
I am glad that Jose has finally provided some factual information from the
source. I have downloaded a zipped copy of the Ayodhya judgment, which I am
going to share with Jose and anybody else who is interested. I would request
him or someone else with a legal background to study the actual
I would like to point out the mistakes made by Gilbert in his post below.
--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thank you for sending us this article from JAMA (Journal
of the American Medical Association). I perused it. As many know, America
is big into RCTs
Mr. Ferdinando here appears to be ignorant about a lot of things, but
especially about the self-proclaimed expertise and activities of Gilbert on
Goanet. Gilbert has veritably copied and paraphrased a multi-part series here
on the European Inquisition. Please see the following links:
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you suggesting that the judgement has not been sufficiently
studied and summarised from all points of view?
No. I am suggesting that it has not been summarized on Goanet. What are you
suggesting?
By any
, and defeat you with
experience! Dilbert's rules
of order.
Regards, GL
--- Santosh Helekar wrote:
Why does Gilbert not follow his own advice and refute
specific points in Drs.
David Gorski's and Robert Burton's articles with data and
references? Why does
he abuse physicians
At last, it is refreshing to read something that is sensible and based on sound
knowledge about the peer review process from someone else who, like Jose and
me, is genuinely familiar with it. Contrast what Jeevan has written below with
the boorish crap from Gilbert, Fr. Ivo, Gabriel and Dr.
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
That is peer review of today, I presume ...
And another word used nowadays is consensus among scientists ...
Looks like another human caused global warming denier. The Huffington Post does
not look kindly upon
Peer review is a process of examining the acceptability of a scientific article
for publication. It consists of a critical reading and evaluation of a research
paper by a panel of experts. It is therefore similar to the evaluation of test
papers carried out by examiners, or of performances in
While there is some truth in what is said in the Huffington Post article linked
below, one also has to be skeptical about political and ideological websites
such as Huffington Post and the authors that write on them. Please read the
following criticism regarding the quackery and pseudoscience
.
Regards, GL
-- Santosh Helekar
While there is some truth in what is said in the Huffington
Post article linked
below, Please read the following criticism regarding
the quackery and
pseudoscience promoted by Huffington Post and the author
Mark Hyman:
The article entitled
.
Regards, GL
-- Santosh Helekar
While there is some truth in what is said in the Huffington
Post article linked
below, Please read the following criticism regarding
the quackery and
pseudoscience promoted by Huffington Post and the author
Mark Hyman:
The article entitled
.
Regards, GL
-- Santosh Helekar
While there is some truth in what is said in the Huffington
Post article linked
below, Please read the following criticism regarding
the quackery and
pseudoscience promoted by Huffington Post and the author
Mark Hyman:
The article entitled
It is quite likely that there are many religious structures in India that were
built on top of the sacred sites or relics of other religions. Do we want this
verdict to be a legal precedent to demolish all the existing structures and
rebuild the original ones?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Sat,
Humankind has just discovered the first habitable planet outside our solar
system. The probability of life being ubiquitous in our galaxy gets a boost.
Please watch the following webcast organized by the U.S. National Science
Foundation, and see how real scientists discuss life as a natural
--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Gilbert Lawrence gilbert2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Now that Augusto Pinto got what he wanted - name and
reasons, I would have like to have read answers to why does the professor
spams:
Actually, it was Gilbert who got what he deserved from Augusto. Someone had to
say it.
Professor Pereira has got it exactly right. A good death is the best wish that
one can offer anyone because the fear of death is the deepest fear that we hold
throughout our life. In my childhood I often heard people of the older
generation wish each other: Dev tuka borem moronn dium.
I for
From the scientific standpoint the claims made in the post appended below are
completely bogus. Any medical student will be able to refute this nonsense.
The following sentence in particular is classic pseudoscience propagated by
the practitioners of such quack nonsense as therapeutic touch:
Roland,
If there is a vendetta in this thread, I think it is you who has it against me
because of an argument elsewhere. I do not hold personal grudges. I only
respond to Fr. Ivo when he tries to raise the scientific illiteracy level of
Goanetters. I have no interest in responding to his
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Either he is 'ignorant' or he is deliberately poking Fun at
'God' that is sacred to millions around the world. Even
learned man can be ignorant of some things; is it not?
That is all I meant to convey, OK? He is a very
I would like to point out and correct the false statements made by Gabe in the
post appended below:
Gabe wrote:
You did however issue him a warning, and an ultimatum!
The above is a misleading statement. In the course of a protracted argument
between Cornel and Mario on GX, after repeated
Nascimento,
In my Konknni dialect we use the spelling god for the word in question. What
credibility do you have on any civilized and enlightened subject? Do you like
Indian vegetarian delicacies?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Thu, 9/23/10, Nascy Caldeira nascy...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Santosh,
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ignorance that I wanted to elicit.
Because ‘Life’ is something beyond human
comprehension, at least so far.
Which deduces that : Science cannot explain
‘Life’.
SANTOSH HELEKAR wrote: The distinction being
drawn here is utterly meaningless. If science has explained
what
makes
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Goanet mourns the passing of Cornel da Costa in London, England - Sep 10/10
I am extremely shocked to hear about the passing of Cornel Da Costa. He was a
great cyberfriend, knowledgeable and rational about many issues of`interest to
me. My profound regret is the fact that I could never meet him in person. But
he will continue to exist in my memories. His words will
, please consult
the following website of the Somasekhara Commission of inquiry:
http://www.jbkscoi.org/
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote:
Santosh Helekar:
The real question that all sensible and rational Goanetters
need to ask
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From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
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--- On Sat, 9/4/10, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote:
ps: If the figure '500 billion is incorrect, please discount it and look at
the larger picture.
Hi Jose,
The real question that all sensible and rational Goanetters need to ask is the
following:
What credible information and
--- On Thu, 9/2/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote:
Finally, when you put together all the four tokens that
made up the IP address, all the email header did, is gave
you the public IP. As it's name implies, this IP is open
for anyone to see and you can't do CRAP with it. This is
akin
In the medical literature there are many cases of apparently stillborn infants
that have seemingly come back to life after variable periods of time. There are
also innumerable cases of premature declaration of death by physicians because
of subjectively imperceptible respiration and heart beat
With the exception of some email addresses such as those provided by gmail, IP
addresses of all Goanet posts received in your inbox can be easily read off the
IP headers. The IP address obtained is usually of the Internet Service Provider
(ISP). For example, you will be able to find my IP
-
it is akin to a human communicating with a finch in English.
But I shall leave a little exercise for him to figure out my
IP from my emails coming from GoaNet.
A couple of my takes below ...
--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel
an answer. The
fact that my answer revealed a lack of wisdom to those who believe that their
miracles have been scientifically validated is not my fault.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
wrote:
RESPONSE : My due apologies to Mr. Santosh
--- On Tue, 8/24/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com
wrote:
RESPONSE
: Mr. Santosh Helekar makes it obvious that he is either
ignorant in the latest
developments in the medical science field or likes to
just blow his trumpet under delusions. I
would request him
can add any additional points to the above list and see
for yourself whether there is room for violations in the
name of research.
And now, some more answers to Helekar's nonsense below:
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
From: Santosh Helekar chimbel
Please note that portions of the post appended below have been plagiarized from
websites such as the following:
http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/Adolf_Hitler_Nazi_Germany_Christian_Nationalism_AntiSemitism.htm
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Mon, 8/23/10, M D markj...@gmail.com
--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote
What is funny is that Santosh does not understand that according to the
Constitution of India, alluded to by Mohan Singh, all religions are equal
under the Law; therefore, all have to be equally respected. It
does not mean that all
--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
***This is absolutely wrong. The texts are from the
Constitution of India, from writings of Mahatma Gandhi (some
of them are in the blog mentioned by him, but they are
quaotations, not texts of the author), and from the speech
of Swami
Sandeep,
Which statement of mine on Goanet are you responding to? The post you think you
are responding to was not allowed to appear on Goanet. I guess the moderators
decided that Goanetters did not deserve to read my side of the argument. I am
hoping this response of mine will not be blocked
The claims made about the so-called scientific studies in the links below are
not credible from the neurophysiological standpoint. Electroencephalography
(EEG) cannot tell us whether there is deception or not. It cannot also tell us
whether there is self-deception or not. The purported
I am refuting below all the bogus claims made by Fernandes.
--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net wrote:
Helekar brought in Teotonio to bolster his argument that he
is dealing with a supposed Goan intellect and therefore my
line of questioning Helekar's motive, would become
This post of mine is a balanced and fair response to a flame bait and
gratuitous personal attack already published on Goanet, the link to which is
provided below:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-August/197330.html
Gilbert,
Seeing your spam mail, and what you have
--- On Wed, 8/18/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
I disagree with Santosh's attempts to mix both up, or the suggestion that
one's religious views would be decided by the State's approach to
a [parallel] matter.
This is Admin Noronha's fabricated view of what my
The sad false insinuation appended below from a poster called Jim Fernandes is
because of the bogus personal issue that this poster has created against me out
of whole cloth. It is also because he has no clue what this research is about,
and is completely ignorant about how such research is
:
On 19 August 2010 17:47, Santosh
Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
4. An unmoderated general purpose list without rules.
I do not have access to an unmoderated special
purpose list without rules. Otherwise, I would
have included that as well.
How about
http://groups.yahoo.com
Sorry for not noticing some questions that Admin Noronha had asked. Here are my
answers.
--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, will your study be covering:
1. Partly moderated lists (where some of the members are
moderated)?
There is no
Portuguese rule in Goa, please go ask
him why he took Portuguese citizenship. I wouldn't go to
Teotonio for any sort of advice, considering he didn't
practice what he preached.
Jim F
New York
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote
A lot of the material in the post appended below has been selectively lifted
verbatim from a blogger named Siddhartha from Bangalore, without giving him
credit, without putting his text in quotation marks, and without providing a
link to one of his webpages containing this text. Please see for
. Not a Casteist!
A concerned Indian for the welfare and freedom of the
masses from Dominating Castes.
I hope YOU will do likewise.
Nascy Caldeira
--- On Wed, 18/8/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nascimento,
I know the truth. I think it hurts you, not me. Why
are you
the forums will be rid of your faulty logic. Hah
hah!
I think U are finding that 'the truth hurts'!!! I hope it
hurts very badly.
Sabash!
Nascimento.
--- On Tue, 17/8/10, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Nascimento,
Can you please explain to Vasant and Sameer why you
believe
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Ivo icso...@bsnl.in wrote:
I have taken part in their seminars and spoken in
english, hindi and marathi (my knowledge is only smattering
in these languages, yet I used to prepare with the help of
my students), in favour of religious dialogue, without
falling into a wrong
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
* Can a believer in a monotheistic religion be compelled to believe
that all religions are equal?
Nobody can be compelled to believe anything in free secular democracy. But
people have the freedom to persuade others to
--- On Tue, 8/17/10, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
You seem to be mixing up issues here between what is a
practical policy for a secular State (particularly one like India) to
adopt, and what Fr Ivo (as a believer in a monotheistic religion) has
a right to personally
Nascimento,
Can you please explain to Vasant and Sameer why you believe Indian cuisine,
Indian cooking and Indian attire, such as poodvem, lungi, angostor, saadi and
kaapod are primitive, lowly, uncivilized and unenlightened?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- On Mon, 8/16/10, Nascy Caldeira
--- On Sat, 8/14/10, Bosco D bos...@canada.com wrote:
RESPONSE: When did the research begin? Who decides what is
interesting?? What is the research about? Which are the Goan
mailing lists similar to Goanet?
Five years ago. The researcher decides. About social networks, and interests,
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