The thread 'Maan: Translation of Ch.1 of Goencho Mull Avaz' which was
changed rather naughtily by Sebastian Borges to 'Augusto Pinto: Mull ani
Bull' and which later evolved to plain 'Mull ani Bull' seems to have run
its course.
I was amused by the way Joao Fernandes' s arguments which were taken
On Sep 7, 2013, at 1:53 AM, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:
The manner in which jc and Mervyn try to pretend innocence about the realities
of past and present was pathetic.
COMMENT:
There goes Xri Pinto all over again.
If I was Augusto Pinto, I would 'Kip Quite' and NOT draw
I'm sorry about writing the following sentence:
The thread 'Maan: Translation of Ch.1 of Goencho Mull Avaz' which was
changed rather naughtily by Sebastian Borges to 'Augusto Pinto: Mull ani
Bull' and which later evolved to plain 'Mull ani Bull' seems to have run
its course.
It was not Professor
On 26
Aug 2013 Frederick FN Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com
wrote:
1. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by Goan bishops. I
took it to mean bishops of Goa, while you meant bishops of Goan origin.
Glad
that you now understand the difference between bishops of Goa (of European
descent,
Dear Prof Borges,
Without getting waylaid by any flame-bait, I'd like to state the following:
* Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by Goan bishops. I took it to
mean bishops of Goa, while you meant bishops of Goan origin.
* For argument sake: if not all the bishops of Goa themselves trace
Frederick FN Noronha wrote:
Dear Prof Borges,
(2) You comment:
All the Goan bishops, without exception, were bamons.
A good rhetorical argument. But I think that there were just three Goan
bishops/archbishops/auxiliary bishops. All the rest were Portuguese.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, and
My dear FN,
Once again you have demonstrated your propensity to
make a simple matter complicated. And you have shown that your habit of
shooting from the hip without reading and digesting the matter is just
incorrigible.
You say,
1. I
think that there were just three Goan
My dear friends,
A friend of mine asked me the question which follows with regard to the
total disregard all the elite Goans of Catholic persuasion have to the
injustices that have been meted out to the Gawdas. He wrote to me:
What I’d love to see most of all is the reaction of the two priests
Dear Prof Borges,
(1) I appreciated your long post to Goanet, because it gives an insight
into aboriginal Goa, one which we in our parts of Bardez probably do not
encounter in much intensity as elsewhere in Goa. Though we here do have our
own bias and bigotedness in other ways, as for instance,
Adv. Joao Fernandes’s response to Fr Victor Ferrao published in the Navhind
Times Panorama of 18 August 2013.
I work for my community and I love my community. I can see God through my
work to my community.
The ‘Maan’ in my village and other villages have been forcefully destroyed
by the priests
Dear All
I am forwarding this message sent to me by the Konkani writer Walter
Menezes regarding an interview he had done with Adv. John alias Joao
Fernandes. I am sending this in connection with post Maan: Translation of
Ch.1 of Goencho Mull Avaz.
Augusto
Mogall Agusto,
Some years ago, I did
Dear
Augusto,
I was
astonished at your indignation especially considering that you had recently
defended very vehemently Fr. Victor Ferrao's paper THE OTHER ORIENTALISM which
was discussed in this forum under the thread There were no Hindus in Goa
before Portuguese landed; Church Thinker.
Rev. Dr. Victor Ferrao's response to Adv. John Fernandes published in the
Navhind Times Panorama of 18 August
While I certainly empathize with the sense of loss of the sacred ‘maan’
felt by my Gaudda brethren and welcome a discussion on the issue, I wish
that the same be done with true
I think there are difficult dilemmas involved here. Harmless rituals and
cultural traditions need to be preserved even if they do not have any value as
art forms. But if these practices have religious significance then they run
smack into the right to propagate and convert to a new religion,
This evening, I had planned to script a few lines on the so-called Dance
Bars brouhaha. But then, my attention was drawn to this rather intriguing
post from Prof Augusto Pinto.
Augusto Pinto wrote: I feel sad for people like Frederick Noronha, George
Menezes, Pamela D'Mello, VM, Santosh Helekar,
Thanks, but no thanks! My silence on this issue has little or nothing to
do with what I supposedly do with the rest of my time. Augusto has every
right to feel sad for whomever he wants (including me); that is his
prerogative. Mine is to prioritise the issues I wish to comment on, and
discuss in
The quite transparent disjunction between the FN response and the post he
quoted 'infra' (:-) reminds me of a Psychiatry Prof we had at GMC; we called
him Psych Sharma. Sitting in with him while he interviewed patients was a treat
for intern me.
Patient (P) walks in. S motions her to take a
Dear All,
I'm dumbfounded by the reception to this article. I'd have thought that
lots and lots of thoughtful people who are the members of this discussion
group would be worried about the fact that a large section of our community
who for ages have been oppressed are still feeling marginalized
Augusto Pinto wrote:
Having said that, I would like to praise you once again as at least you
have the courage to say you are distressed. But I feel sad for people
like Frederick Noronha and others who otherwise like to wax
eloquent on all and every subject.
Dear Gusto, I don't think you
Book excerpt:
Maan / Maand
By Adv. John Fernandes
Translated by Augusto Pinto
(Adv. Joao alias John Fernandes, Christian Gawda activist, has compiled the
folk songs of the Christian Gawdas in a book called ‘Goencho Mull Avaz’ (JPL
Prakashan, Quepem, 2013). This is published in Konkani in the
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