Well elucidated Roland.
—Venantius
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Roland wrote:
> Portugal's Goa Consul-General's recent pronouncement has settled the muddy
> waters around Portuguese citizenship for the reported 200,000 or so Goans
> who have registered their births
Portugal's Goa Consul-General's recent pronouncement has settled the muddy
waters around Portuguese citizenship for the reported 200,000 or so Goans who
have registered their births in the Lisbon Central Registry, viz they are
Portuguese citizens.
But there are some issues that remain, of no
My friends Sonny (Samuel), Benny (Benjamin), Gary (Gershon) and all those
Mahimkars, Poonekars, Samsons and Solomons once of Bombay and now in Israel can
soon apply for Portuguese citizenship if the proposed law for admitting
Sephardic Jews is passed soon.
It is good of Portugal which follows
An advocate view on citizenship and nationality based on International Law
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=12871boxid=18233265uid=dat=12/19/2013
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
If one examines a currently valid passport of any country, irrespective of
whether the passport holder was born in foreign colonial captivity or not in
the past, it becomes clear that both Shri Falcao and Shri Sanches have been
misled. A citizen and passport holder of a country also holds its
Heres what the Merriam -Webster dictionary has to say
Citizen
Relationship between an individual and a state in which the individual owes
allegiance to the state and in turn is entitled to its protection. In general,
full political rights, including the right to vote and to hold public office,
Here in the U.K. when we visit the Hospital either as an inpatient or
outpatient, we are given a form to fill out regarding ethnicity. We are not
compelled to do so but it helps. My family puts down Indian.
People on this forum are still living under the delusions of
Aryan/Dravidian theories? Hard to get over the Colonial hangover I must
say..
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.comwrote:
I would like to thank Falcao for recognizing his Indian ethnicity and
Goans born before December 19, 1961 were all Portuguese
Nationals as well as Portuguese citizens. These Goans then became Indian
Citizens by the promulgation of the “Goa, Daman and Diu (Citizenship) Order,
1962”. The Nationality did not change.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality
Quote
Cyrus,
In a word, Sharp.
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Venantius J Pinto
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Cyrus A. Jose Sanches
sanchescy...@hotmail.com wrote:
Heres what the Merriam -Webster dictionary has to say
Citizen
Relationship between an individual and a state in which the individual
owes
On 16 December 2013 04:34, Sandesh Anvekar sandeshanve...@gmail.com wrote:
People on this forum are still living under the delusions of Aryan/Dravidian
theories? Hard to get over the Colonial hangover I must say..
Dear Mr. Anvekar,
I am not sure if it is a question of Delusion or Denial
: Re: [Goanet] Portuguese citizenship
Here in the U.K. when we visit the Hospital either as an inpatient or
outpatient, we are given a form to fill out regarding ethnicity. We are
not
compelled to do so but it helps. My family puts down Indian.
When the categories are OTHER or OPTIONAL, please confuse the bureaucrats by
completing forms as follows even if it does not make sense:
RACE: Human
NATIONALITY: Human
ETHNICITY: Human
Besides the bureaucrats, it drives the nationalists (jingoists) and flag-wavers
crazy. Also makes the
On 16 December 2013 15:00, George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com wrote:
When the categories are OTHER or OPTIONAL, please confuse the bureaucrats
by completing forms as follows even if it does not make sense:
RACE: Human
NATIONALITY: Human
ETHNICITY: Human
Besides the bureaucrats, it drives the
Hi George,
Hospitals and medical institutions request ethnic information because, I
believe, certain diseases like thalassemia, sickle cell disease and a few
others, which the doctors on this forum will know, largely occur within certain
ethnicities. Not to say that other ethnicities are
It looks like Falcao's speculations are exactly the opposite of that of Shri
Cyrus Sanches. Perhaps, it is because Falcao consults the Wikipedia and Shri
Sanches consults the Merriam-Webster dictionary to obtain their legal knowledge
about immigration, citizenship and nationality laws.
Here is
Gabriel
I suggest that this may not be the entire picture.
Please try decipher WHY they need such information in the census reports
jc
On 16 December 2013 17:14, Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au
wrote:
Hi George,
Hospitals and medical institutions request ethnic
I couldn#39;t have put it better.
I would like to thank Falcao for recognizing his Indian ethnicity and heritage.
However, he did not tell me what his nationality was. Is he presently a citizen
of India or not? As far as I know, most people who reside in Goa presently have
Indian nationality i.e. they are citizens of India. So
Is Falcao not an Indian? If so, what is his ethnic identity, and what is his
nationality?
Cheers,
Santosh
On Friday, December 13, 2013 3:48 AM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Prof. Sergio Carvalho has made it abundantly clear in his write up on
today's
Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Fri Dec 13
13:41:50 PST 2013 wrote:
Is Falcao not an Indian? If so, what is his ethnic identity,
and what is his nationality?
Cheers, Santosh
RESPONSE:
Falcão was not born in the Republic of India, so he cannot
be a born Indian.
On 14 December 2013 05:16, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão wrote:
Falcão was not born in the Republic of India, so he cannot be a born
Indian.
COMMENT:
Dr. Falcão raises an important point wrt nationality.
Miss America 2013, Nina Davuluri, responded to racist swipes (possibly by
those who
While Prof Carvalho has written an excellent article, I believe he has made a
slip wrt Nehru and the 1974 Treaty.
Nehru died 10 yrs before that treaty was signed.
jc
On Dec 12, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
drferdina...@hotmail.com wrote:
Prof. Sergio Carvalho has
Prof. Sergio Carvalho has made it abundantly clear in his write up on today's O
Heraldo, the duplicity and ad-lib opinions of Indians on the above topic.
http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=12753boxid=175450859uid=dat=12/13/2013
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Figueiredo.
From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Portuguese citizenship
It looks surprising that some have said that those born before Goa's
Liberation has Portuguese nationality as its birthright
Figueiredo.
From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com
To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Portuguese citizenship
It looks surprising that some have said that those born before Goa's
Liberation has Portuguese nationality as its birthright
It looks surprising that some have said that those born before Goa's
Liberation has Portuguese nationality as its birthright. Political
history showed why Portugal made Goa a province and named it Estado da
India. To give such a legality to what Goa was then, just a colony, is a
play on
: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:19 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese Citizenship
Just a correction I want to make. An Indian holding a foreign passport with an
OCD card, he/she can get employment, start a business, but cannot stand for
elections, or vote. Its correct he/she cannot buy agricultural land
Dears,
Can anyone have an update if India would allow dual nationality anytime soon?
Thank you in advance for the information.
Regards,
Eustace
From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:36 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese
Just a correction I want to make. An Indian holding a foreign passport with
an OCD card, he/she can get employment, start a business, but cannot stand
for elections, or vote. Its correct he/she cannot buy agricultural land, but
can buy a flat/house.
Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami
Ah Ana-Maria!
Am still a bit perplexed by the OCD card.
This means that most Goans will not be able to contest elections or vote in
them.
jc
(;-)
Pardon any Typos. This IPad does some curious auto- corrections
On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Ana Maria de souza-Goswami
anamari...@dataone.in
My apologies there was a typing error. Its OCI Card and not OCD. Sorry about
that.
Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami
I realize that for many, acquiring a Portuguese passport, is a ticket out of
Goa/India. But as Roland has pointed out there are a number of issues to
consider. Acquiring a Portuguese passport effectively means giving up Indian
Nationality and all the perks in India that go along with being an
I hope that the organizers of these seminars are also advising Goans of
their legal duty to the Indian Republic to give up their Indian citizenship
and surrender their Indian passports once they receive Portuguese passports,
failing which they are in an illegal position and subject to the punitive
: Sunday, February 13, 2011 12:37 PM
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese citizenship for Indians
http://www.consuladoportugalgoa.com/initialpage1.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_nationality_law
http://www.merinews.com/article/goans-explore-europe-through-portuguese-citi
http://www.consuladoportugalgoa.com/initialpage1.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_nationality_law
http://www.merinews.com/article/goans-explore-europe-through-portuguese-citizenship/130316.shtml
http://www.groundreport.com/Business/Learn-Portuguese-to-earn-a-passport/2924172
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