Hi Mr.A Fernandes ! Definitely besides Patience;Silence is definitely golden!And I do believe in it and will stop here. I will stop here about this topic and wait patiently till the proper address & details arrive.I am in no way related to Pilar nor or am I a father or a brother or a nun of Pilar society or work there.I 'm just an ordinary person like you Mrs.Virgy who is in a far away country ,away from India ;overseas for her earning a better living and visits my beloved Goa with my whole family every year and never failing to visit Old Goa and Pilar churches where we hear masses ,say prayers & offer offer masses too ;though this is our personal matter but just to clarify your doubt .We've been doing this every year for nearly 18 years or more.This is just to clearify your doubt about being asscoiated with AndamanPilar/funds etc.etc.So please be sure that I'm just a reader of the net like you.I do agree with you COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY IS GOOD BY ALL MEANS IF ITS PUT TO GOOD USE AND NOT OTHERWISE.Lot of GOOD HAS BEEN DONE BY MANY MANY PEOPLE by reaching out to others through this va luable net but definitely Patience and silence with discretion is great. I hope I'm clear to you and am writing with malice to none. A reader of the net:Mrs.Virgy
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:58:14 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREACC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Ms. Virgy,Many thanks for your detailed explanation, which is accepted in all humility even though it is difficult to digest many reasons assigned to it.. By the way, are you associated with Pilar Father's office and/or writing on behalf of the Society? It is very sad that while we wait for bank account to be opened in remote areas for whatever reasons, people including the missionaries there are suffering. Novenas can wait as the dire urgent needs of these remote places certainly have higher priorities, as the subject suggests. Surely Pilar Fathers have account or could open one for the said purpose in Goa. Objective is to reach help to those in urgent need and catch with the administrative problems later including blaming the communications shortcomings in India and in remote problems. Regarding offering of Masses and payments thereof, it was a priest there who told us to pay the lady, not anybody else. SURELY, PATIENCE IS THE MOTHER OF ALL VIRTUESbut undue delays for lack timely actions and excuses for inactions has many disadvantages including credibility of urgent needs. Please do not blame computers or latest technology for lack of timely actions. Surely, it is because of computers and fast technology we are able to spread our appeals for the needy around the globe. Do not also cast blame on the Computers users as Idle lot, at least they use their time wisely instead of many people wasting time on idle gossips and watching soap operas on TVs.. Objective of this writing is not to belittle anyone but to request urgent timely response so that we all can reach out to those in dire need.Hope you understand Thanks for your patience and hope to receive proper details and not waste time writing emails defending each other. Kind regardsTony On 10/29/07, peu De <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All!PATIENCE IS THE MOTHER OF ALL VIRTUES!You must be knowing theres a wide difference between communication in Indian telephone lines and the working system too unlike overseas countries and for that matter non govenmental organisations and more so remote areas and also areas which are not government associated.Also I'm not sure whether the Fr.Agnelo's novena/preparation have begun or no ;hence they are busy.Also since recently the Verna group has reconciled they were busy with the reconcilaation work/conferences and the follow up etc.It should be understood.Also I have told you that the Remote Andaman church in charge is on his personal holiday so unavailable easily due to communication gap and I was told they have yet to open an account in the new place specifically for this remote church.They have just gone there to this new church newly ;just in Sept.not yet got a strong hold there becos the people there are poor and illiterate and in a very bad shape.Nobody wants to go there.Let us pray instead for the two priests who went there and struggling to bring people to God and help them with their daily problems although they have no basic amenities. Another point is whenever every year I went to Pilar in Nov/Dec and gave masses they issued me a receipt becos I went at the proper office time and gave.This I do every year now for nearly1 8 years and was issued a receipt.Do not hand over for that matter anything to anyone at all and blame anyone or for that matter tarnish the image of anyone just becos we have the facility to send emails at the flick of the button.AGAIN I REPEAT PATIENCE !PATIENCE IS THE MOTHER OF ALL VIRTUES! It is a very sad that the world has reached to such a volitile and critical stage becos we dont have patience for each other or to wait .Whether its in the house or in the office, or on the road or for that matter anywhere.With the advancements in science & technology peoples wants and desires have multiplied and pat ience has declined altogather.PLEASE LET US ALL PRAY & SAVE the little patience that is left over in the world among the few of us and not say its exhausted altogether.I too am waiting for the right account/place /time to send my own little contribution but exercising the little patience I have and do not want to join the blame game on the net.If at all we think of doing any charity ;it has to be done in such a way so to say; that even your other hand is not aware of it; for it is that time it has great value. I write this with malice to none just becos I felt do so becos I see the world/people are doing so much harm for that matter even the so called terrorists just at the flick of the button on the computers when one is idle and cannot give time do do something worthwhile instead like Ms.Cynhtia. For that matter there is even a married person called Mrs Anita Rodrigues of Carmona n Belgaum/Karnataka who takes care herself of the old /destitute and is not an instit ution.Thats a real God's call to help/reach out to the poor or suffering ALL SILENTLY WITH PATIENCE.I just happen to meet her recently on my holiday trip there. Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:17 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREACC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Cynthia, I am not very sure what is going on there. Last August, Maria and myself visited Pilar and as normal we wished to offer masses for the departed. After our prayers we went around to see if anybody will take our offerings, only to be told much later to give to one lady, which we did assuming that she works there. No receipt was issued as she said the offices were closed. We trusted her word and gave in good faith. Now hearing this about Pilar not even having basic information where and how to send to the right account, etc. I am not sure what to say. It just amazes me how can anyone expect every person to call the Fathers in The remote Andaman Islands (We tried and failed to connect), Pilar has no information, yet they request help and people are willing to send the money but which genuiene BanK account? It is sad to note, while these basic formalities are taking loooooog time, people and priests there in the Islands continue to suffer. Is this not IRONIC? The Priests and Brothers are new to me. My Maternal side uncles and relatives late Fr. Ingatio Mariano Rosario and late Bro. Gracious are no more in this world. If they were alive, I could have put a direct word to them confidently. Similarly Fr. Marden, Fr. Pio Lobo are in the far away missions, not in Pilar. Perhaps, Ms. Virgy will be able to assist you. In the meanwhile, I hope to receive a proper sensible response from Pilar Fathers to convey to others Good luck, happy holidays. Regards tony On 10/28/07, Cynthia Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tony as i am going there - why dont u address a letter to the priest there explaing who u are n i will personally deliver to them as i hv to go there to give them the money too. What say you. Cyn On 10/28/07, Anthony C. L. Fernandes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Ms. Virgy, Thanks once again. How come Pilar Society today does not have this type info from their far flung missions? Some years ago, it was my maternal Uncle Bro. Gracious from Tamborim, Carmona, had put the proper accountability, system and procedures for the Society. What is happenning now? I am A Pilar and Sanvordem educated person under the Pilar Society. It amazes me that when the funds are desperately required and our Pilar Society is yet in the infant state to receive even the basic immediate feed for the survivors. How do I explain to others whom I appealed so far? What impreesion will this International audience have on the receipient Society, organization? Hope you understand and make the members of the Pilar Society understand too the gravity of such type of waiting and waste of time system or no system, as it seems? Regards tony On 10/28/07, peu De <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Yes Mr.A Fernandes!Its best to wait till the priest in charge of that Region who is also I presume is gone to Goa arrives or sends me tthe same details as I and others too are waiting like you for the details to send the donations as it should go only for that remote church in Andaman which is so very bad. Bye:Mrs.Virgy Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:50:27 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREA CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Ms. Virgy, Thanks for your response. We tried all, and yet unable to contact. Hence there is no point to contact him again by each one of us. That money on individual calls could be well spent for the poor. It is quite simple. Perhaps, you contact Fr. Prithem and request him to send full details to transfer the funds, e.g. Full name of Account Bank Name and full address Code for transfer Telephone/fax/email of the bank Alternatively, same information could be given for Pilar Father in Goa. My friend, Ms. Cyntia Fernandes will be in Goa who wish to donate for the cause. Please advise whom and where she should meet. She is from Betim, Goa. Please note most people will not send to personal account but to designated Society or Church account(s). This is obviously to ensure that the funds go to the intended right cause(s). I trust that the above mentioned is clear to you. Awaiting your Urgent response Kind regards Tony On 10/28/07, peu De <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Mr.A.Fernandes!God bless you for your patience!Hope you can now contact the Pilar father in Andaman Fr. Prithem on tel no:0091 9434274306 With best regards:Mrs.Virgy Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:20:22 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fwd: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREA Dear Sir/Madam, We do not seem to have received your revised email. Please advise Thanks Tony---------- Forwarded message ----------From: Anthony C. L. Fernandes < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Oct 24, 2007 3:05 PMSubject: Re: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREATo: peu De < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Dear Sir,Thanks for your email. Kindly note we are dealing with International audience spread all over the world, therefore may I request you to send full name to address the draft, transfers and address in Goa, India and Andaman places. Audience includes South, Central and America, EU countries, African continent, CIS countries, Arab and Islamic countries besides Far East and Indian subcontinent.Please resend your email accordingly Thanks & regardsTony On 10/24/07, peu De <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Sir/Madam ! I too tried desperately to send emails and contact but returned back to me perhaps becos there is no telephone connection / computers in that area ,also no electricity&no water even if though they may have a phone set but there are no communcation telephone facilities up till now as nothing is done by the government there being a remote hilly area with very very poor people leaving just on rain water and rice and dal with lot of big scorpions around.With just the Bamboo mat church with a roof of leaves on top .Same is the church residence.May God bless abundantly all those who are trying their best to reach out .The best is to connect the offices or house of Pilar Fathers in Goa or Pilar generalate.Its really a tough time for the two priests posted there one from Goa and another a tribal one.Let us pray for their welfare and safety.. Appeals are sent in Goa I've havent received mine yet.Today I'll try to phone in Goa or Andamns main church in Port Blair .I hope to succ eed.Pilar Goa tel nos:221854,2218562, Margao regional Pilar fathers house/office tel nos:2703117,2701664, Regional in charge:Fr.Galdino Monteiro:9822122935 A reader of the net:Mrs.Virgy Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:13:04 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: URGENT NEED OF CHURCH AND A PRIESTS HOUSE IN ANDAMANS REMOTE HILLY AREACC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Gaby, How are you and family? We pray for your health and prosperity The Church in question is i romote islands in Arabian Sea, between Eastern India and Burma. It is cared by Missionaries from Goa, India. You may contact them directly as per details below. God Bless you Thanks and regards Tony ---------- Forwarded message ----------From: peu De < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bishop ALEXIO DAS NEVES DIAS Address: Deepti DhamCatholic Bishop's House P. B. 466, Junglighat P. O.Port Blair - 744 103 Andamans, India . Tel: (03192) 23 29 79 (O), 23 04 45 (P) Fax: (03192) 23 04 64E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 10/24/07, Gabriela Guzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Ton y, where is this church? where/how can we contact the need? Shop better, safer, cheaper, more effective products, taking toxins out of your home and your health. GO GREEN and ORGANIC! Build GREEN, energy effecient, qualify for reduced insurance, sound, termite, Category 5 hurricane & fire proof. Save trees. Gabriela Guzman 678-437-5890 I long for your salvation, O Lord, and your law is my delight, LET ME LIVE THAT I MAY PRAISE YOU, and may your laws sustain me. Psalm 119:174-175 Let everything that has breath praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Psalm 150:6 ---------- Forwarded message ----------From: peu De < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Oct 20, 2007 2:42 PMDear Friends in Christ Of Goa/India!URGENT PLEASE!!! Can you please circulate and help in the following?:The Pilar society church in Adamans not in Port Bair the main one but the other one in remote hilly ; where the people are very poor and the government has done nothing so far .It is so bad and even the priests 's housing with plenty of big scorpions around.The priest's house and the church is made of bamboo mats with a roof of leaves, with no water supply only rain water,no lights,no phone connections with meagre food supply of dal and rice.You may make an inquiry or in vestigation or send your charity donation directly to the Pilar society marking for the urgent building of a small church and priest housing. 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