[Goanet] Glue page for Goa
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Glue page for Goa: http://in.glue.yahoo.com/?fr=sfpei=UTF-8query=Goay=Search -- Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490 http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha
Re: [Goanet] It is time India joined the global war on terror
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Mario Goveia wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355339,00.html The first responsibility of a nation is to protect its most vulnerable citizens. It is high time India shed its pious pacifist delusions and formally joined the global war on terror. Mario, The first responsibility of any society is to make sure that no citizen goes to sleep starving or on the verge of starvation. Its next concerns should be about providing adequate education, health facilities and housing. A country like India can not stand on the international stage when everybody is aware that large sections of its population goes to sleep, everyday, begging and on the verge of starvation. Once the Indian Govt has shown it is capable of resolving the country's problems, it can take that success to the international stage. Trying to be a pretender on the international stage now will only mean that the Indian taxpayers money will be wasted abroad. I may add that that same money is desperately needed for local infrastructure. As for the supposed war on terror, the Taliban has just accepted a two week truce with the Western troops. The poppy crop has to be harvested! A cartoon in today's, The Globe and Mail, Toronto, captures this Monty Python moment in all its deliciousness. Two western soldiers in Afghanistan are reading from a newspaper the infamous words, They will greet us as liberators and shower us with flowers. Next to the two soldiers is a Taliban tossing poppies at the soldiers. This year, the Taliban expects to harvest its biggest crop ever of poppies. I suspect the money from this crop will be used to buy weapons to fight the invaders. Mervyn3.0 __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Catholic Goeankars N.B. 'Respect atheists' saysCardinal
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From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tried reading the full text of the Cardinal's speech that was kindly
web-linked
as well as the abstracts that were posted.
The writings were Latin to me with some Greek philosophy.
Aum supurlo Goenkar murree. I am man-enough to admit that I do not
understand
the concepts.
***Discourse on God will always be to some extent Latin to me. But my
point is that the message of the Cardinal is to be taken, not just some
sentences
which are dealing with the theme in a different, but complementary
context--that of the dialogue with the
atheists. From the outset the Cardinal stated his faith in God revealed by
Jesus Christ.
Then he says that God is not a fact in the world (as object of empirical
sciences),
but a mystery (that cannot be known exhaustively), but should be embraced in
faith and love.
The Cardinal speaks of a personal God. What I am correcting is the wrong,
reductionist notion,
that we do not know whether God exists or not. Mystery is a living,
hidden, real, being.
Perhaps we can say that it implies that the Cardinal is an agnostic, if we
read only those lines
and do not understand and misinterpret the word mystery. The Cardinal does
not say that at all.
That is what I am trying to correct. In fact, the Cardinal has already
clearly proclaimed:
I believe in the God revealed to us by Jesus, who is the father who
forgives us, accepts us, and loves us. He is the God who speaks to us about
who we are, how we should live and teaches us the ways that will lead us
into a responsible exercise of our freedom. If we close our hearts and minds
to him, if we forget or exclude God, then our lives lose both meaning and
hope.
God is a Father who loves us, a Person.
Why do you think of yourself as a supurlo Goyenkar?
Regards.
Fr.Ivo
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Re: [Goanet] Clowns on Goanet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear ole xac, It appears that Xacuti should head back to where it really belongs i.e. to the 'Cusine' The resident clown from the IR of MakaPowChow may wish to read posts carefully before venturing out to comment. If he had done that, he would have realised that it was Rajan (and not any one else) who called others 'Vermin'. Ok guy ...No more Chow Mein for you - only half a Won Ton Soup cheers jc Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1: Toronto decided to take a swipe at me because of a typo error. He was joined by the back foot cricket player from the the same region. Goanet has a few clowns mainly in the region of the Northern Hemisphere. 2: Today Rajan is carrying this onslaught and now the back foot maratista calls it vermin and claims to have written on Goan issues more than 12 years ago - deva makapao!
[Goanet] Statement of Shri Eduardo Faleiro, Commissioner for NRI Affairs, at his Press Briefing (May 13, 2008)
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STATEMENT OF SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO, COMMISSIONER FOR NRI AFFAIRS, AT HIS
PRESS BRIEFING
(May 13, 2008)
I shall be visiting Mozambique and Kenya from May 16-24. During this visit,
I shall meet the Goan community, other communities of Indian origin as well
as Foreign Ministers and other leaders of the two Governments. Goans
migrated in significant numbers to East Africa in the 19th and 20th
centuries. They formed the backbone of the Civil service, Railways and the
educational system in those countries. Some of them clamoured for reforms in
the colonial system and later inspired the movement for total independence
from European rule.
The visit is being organized by our High Commissions in Mozambique and
Kenya. I visited both the countries in 1987 as Minister of State for
External Affairs. Whilst this visit is in my capacity as Commissioner for
NRI Affairs of the Government of Goa, I have been briefed by the Ministry of
External Affairs so that the visit also contributes to advance bilateral
relations between India and those two countries. I shall be accompanied by
the Director for NRI Affairs, Shri U. D. Kamat.
* In Mozambique apart from my meetings with the Goan and other Indian
communities, I shall be meeting the Ministers of Foreign Affairs and Science
and Technology and other senior leaders of that country. The number of
persons of Indian origin in Mozambique is estimated at around 20,000
families; about half hold Mozambican nationality whilst the other half have
Portuguese nationality. There are also about 2000 persons who are Indian
nationals. Persons of Goan origin have been in Mozambique for generations
and presently number around 1000 families. They celebrate the Goa Day every
year and invite members of other Indian communities as well as Mozambican
leaders. Our High Commission participates actively in this function.
* The Government of India under its international cooperation programme has
set up several development projects in countries of Africa to empower the
local people. It has offered a Cashew Processing Plant to Mozambique which
has already arrived there. The Plant will be installed by technicians of
HMT, Bangalore. A consortium of RITES and IRCON are working on the
rehabilitation of the Beira Railways. M/S Tata and Mahindra have a
significant presence in the automobile sector in Mozambique. The ESSAR Group
and Jindal Steel are also present there. Some Indian owned companies have
coal concessions in Mozambique. Lines of credit have been extended by the
Government of India for rural electrification, rural sanitation and
Information Technology projects in that country.
* My visit to Kenya will be broadly on the lines of the visit to
Mozambique. Apart from the Goan and other Indian communities, I shall be
meeting the Foreign Minister and some other Ministers of the Kenyan
Government. Kenya held General Elections recently and a new Cabinet was
sworn in earlier this month.
* A large number of persons of Indian origin including Goans, such as the
legendary Pio da Gama Pinto and Joseph Zuzarte Murumbi participated in Kenya's
struggle for Independence. At present, there are about one lakh people of
Indian origin and Indian nationals in Kenya. They play a vital role in
commerce and industry. The Goan community which used to have a fairly
sizeable presence in that country has shrunk to about 500 families. Goans
are mainly in the banking and IT sector. Some are also in business. Like
other people of Indian origin, a large number of them emigrated mainly to
the U.K., US and Canada and acquired British, American or Canadian
nationality or passports. The Goan Gymkhana in Nairobi was established in
1936.
* Students from Kenya come to India regularly for higher education. India
offers 30-40 seats every year in Indian Universities to Kenyan students
since 1964. Under the ICCR scholarship scheme, 15 scholarships for
undergraduate, graduate and research studies are awarded each year. Kenyan
Defence personnel have also been attending senior level Defence training
programmes in India.
* Kenya is a major exporter of agricultural and horticultural products and
there is good scope for cooperation in setting up agro processing industries
in that country. Kenya's tea industry is the world's third largest after
India and Sri Lanka and there is great potential for exports of tea
machinery to Kenya.
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[Goanet] Konkan Fruit Fest gets good press coverage.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dears, Blame it on El Nino effect or any other cause, the Konkan Fruit Fest and the mangoes of Goa have recieved the attention of the local newspapers. Not everything that has been written is correct, but at least the fruits are receiving some attention instead of the constant focus on sex, sleaze and the Regional Plan. The fresh fruit entries have begun rolling in to the Zonal Agriculture Offices. the stalls are ready at the promenade at Panaji and the nurserymen and others are raring to go. Mog asundi. Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] saving Goa.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Mario, Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply to my e-mail, but you have not let me know about whether, you a Goan, can buy land in Kashmir. My reply - Yes, the Americans, are scary people, they elect an actor - Ronald Reagan, as President, but feel a highly educated, accomplished, well-experienced woman like Madam Hillary Clinto cannot be elected as the next Prez of the US. Yes, I guess, Hollywood actors do fit the American vision of leader of the USA. The number of excuses through e-mails sent by every US male, to me, are many and ridiculous, for not wanting a female President. Yes, we women around the globe are wondering who exactly will US males ever think, is the right woman to be elected as the US President. From what all women around the Globe are observing, women power does not exist in the USA. US women are forced to follow the decisions of their male counterparts, in electing a MALE as the next US President, as US Males will never allow their country to be ruled by a WOMAN. Your statement below - Actually, you have unintentionally confirmed that the US is above making such important decisions based simply on gender or race, but on their perception of the whether the individual fits their idea of who they want to lead the country. My reply - I am amazed, that there are still, long over-night queues outide the US embassy where non-American Goans are waiting , nay harassing US officials to help them migrate to the US. Your statement below -In case you missed it here is an unbiased opinion based on personal observation on what the US I know is like from a non-American Goan who lived here for several years: Yes, once again, the present Goan govtmt with the help of Goans are doing their best to preserve Goa, for the future of our children. I commend you, and all goans who are making an all-out effort to preserve the beauty of Goa. Regards, Jane Rodrigues = From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] suggestions please protection of goan land Date: 9 May 2008 11:16:56 - From: jane gillian rodrigues I enjoyed your replies to my e-mail, and thank you for the same, but you have not offered any solutions to protecting Goan Land. Mario responds: Jane Gillian, I spend my days wondering how I can provide you with an enjoyable education on how the world works:-)) Regarding offering solutions, how did you miss the following post? http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-April/072036.html Starting with that post I have become like a stuck record on how Goa can protect it's environment through local zoning laws rather than authoritarian separatist Marxist notions that have no place in a modern democracy having failed wherever else they have been used. Zoning laws control development without stopping it and make it compatible with the surroundings, history, architecture, culture etc. By the way, local zoning laws are not specific to the US, they are used across Europe and in every rational civilized country. Jane Gillian wrote: A) does the constitutional freedom to own personal property also include destroying nature? Mario responds: No it doesn't. Anyone who deliberately destroys nature should be locked up, after they are soundly spanked, and they should then throw away the key. The real issue in a free democracy is who gets to decide whether an owner of private property is destroying nature. Zoning laws, which are developed with local input, are a sensible solution that control development without preventing it and make it compatible with the local environment. Everyone wins. Jane Gillian wrote: Could you please explain to me why Aldonkars have taken a stand, making it the governments business to prevent misuse/sale of their village land to other Indians? What about SEZ??? Mario responds: To begin with, my comment you are referring said it was none of the government's business why someone would want to sell their property, not what is done with the property after someone buys it. Citizens in a democracy can get together collectively to influence their local legislators, as the Aldonkars did and the SEZ opponents as well. This is perfectly legitimate as long as it does not trample on the rights of minorities. These decisions can still be challenged in court and the legal system will arbitrate. All such heat and angst is precisely what zoning laws would avoid,
[Goanet] Summer Multi-media Camp in Verna
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Rico, Could you please post this on the various goa lists for me. Thanks! - Ajay SummerTime - The Second Summer Workshop in association with Red Earth Pottery, Verna 27th to 31st May 2008 9.00am to 1.00pm A 5 day multi-media workshop introducing children and adults to the exciting world of digital video, photography, music, theatre and art. Participants will learn exciting new ways to express themselves and learn about the environment around us. The theme of this year’s workshop is “Summer”. What does the “Summer” mean to us? What are the memories, the textures and stories it evokes. Using various media, we will explore and deepen our own understanding of how it affects us. Participants will be encouraged to write, draw, paint, use clay and drama to express their ideas. In doing so, they will also learn the basics of creative writing, story telling, digital photography, film-making and theatre. The Workshop will be conducted by Valentino Gaspar and Ajay Noronha at the Red Earth Pottery Studio. It is tucked in a quiet verdant corner of Voddlem Bhath at Verna, 2km away from the old Panaji-Margao highway. Valentino Gaspar – is a ceramic and terracotta artist who runs the rustic Red Earth Pottery Studio. He is an accomplished stain-glass restorer and theatre director. Ajay Noronha – is a film-maker, cameraperson who divides his time between television game shows, documentary film and teaching. Course fees: Rs 1000 inclusive of consumables like paint, clay, video tape, etc. Please carry your own compass box, brushes and camera (if you have one). Registration open! Hurry, limited seats only. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Call: Tino (0832) 6555862 or Ajay 09820291396 _ Watch hottest Bollywood videos, clips, movie tailors, star interviews, songs and more on MSN videos. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] A vision for Goan villages - By Wendell Rodricks
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- A VISION FOR GOAN VILLAGES By Wendell Rodricks Each morning when I walk to my studio in Colvale I see how our village has grown at an alarmingly unplanned rate. With a rapidity that is astonishing. One day there is a walled home. The next day it becomes a dumping ground for the neighbour's garbage. In a week the same home of some poor soul in faraway Kenya, UK or Canada becomes a dumpsite for the entire vaddo. I am not ashamed once a week, or sometimes more, often to become a ragpicker. I just cannot believe that there is an indignity in cleaning up the path I tread daily. One would imagine that some people would be shamefaced to see a celebrity picking up garbage and follow example. Instead I get curious looks and remarks that are not worthy of recounting. At home in the early dawn or late at night, I think about my village Colvale. How it went from sleepy hamlet to a village fast turning into a highway town ringed with polluting industries. It is a crying shame and a lesson in what should not happen to any village in Goa. This then is my vision for every village in Goa, which I hope the Government and the people of Goa will encourage. As in all cases there have been many rainbows in the storm. These need to be highlighted so that people who care and love their villages can follow as examples of civic and social responsibility. 1. PANCHAYAT CONTROL Goans mistakenly imagine that their job is done once the ballot has been cast. No!! On many instances I have pushed the Sarpanch and the Panchayat to act. Over early morning tea, I have ensured that no hoardings come up on the Colavle plateau nor on the village NH17 route. All it took was a serious talk with the Panchayat. The same goes for garbage clearance. When it gets too bad take the matter to the Panchayat office and demand that something is done. After all there is a budget for the same. I know of many responsible citizens who have worked to ensure that services like health and pharmacies are installed in their village. I hope many proactive Goans follow suit. 2. GARBAGE MANAGEMENT Every village and city should have its garbage plan in place. It's a lot of rubbish to talk about a dumping site. That is the easy way out. If a city like Paris can have its garbage plant bang in the middle of banks and residential areas, with no emissions except power for electricity, why can't we have the same?? Our lazy, fat, corrupt ministers need to be voted out for not addressing the garbage needs of a paltry 1.3 million persons. But forget about the government. If they are so insensitive and stupid, it's time that concerned citizens took the garbage issue in their hands and did it themselves. If we can raise funds to build temples and churches and spend lakhs on weddings why can't we collect the 2 lakhs or less to buy a garbage compactor and get the job done?? All the wealthy people in Goa should hang their heads in shame and write out a cheque to make their village garbage free. 3. CULTURAL MONUMENTS It's all very well to say that our churches, chapels and temples are rich enough to sustain themselves. But is that correct?? I have heard many persons who say they don't go to places of worship. Fine. But when your village looses its temples, churches or mosques to ruins, please be aware that we are all silent witnesses and participants in the decline of our cultural monuments. Please be more involved to save what we have and to conserve the village legacy that we have been blessed with. Towards this cause one must be aware of the village history and preserve the objects of culture. In Colvale we were known for our black shells (kayem khubem). With the sand dredging we failed to preserve the young shells. Today not a single shell exists in a place where, as children, we would put our hands in the sand and get 3 or 4 shells in a handful of sand. A pity. But also a lesson that we can still reintroduce the shells and stop the sand dredgers from removing sand in these marked areas. 4. STREETS AND PERSONAGES A couple of months ago I met a French lady who came from Paris to see where Abbe Faria's family came from in Colvale. With shame I informed her that the home was a ruin and there was not even a marking to identify the spot. Even though the home is no more I still feel we can erect a statue and name our main street leading from temple to the church as Abbe Faria street. We owe it to our glorious ancestors to commemorate their contribution to Goan history. It is
[Goanet] One way to solve Goa's problems --- diversify, not just bank on land
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Apart from the politicians messing up and selling off Goa's land to the highest bidder, there are other reasons for land being such a pressure point for the Goans. It is that, unlike rest of India, Goans havent diversified and tried to get into other industries in a big way to make money. Today, worldwide it is intellectual property, not land, that is driving wealth creation. Sure natural resources based issues such as those of oil prices are important. But a significant amount of population has gotten into trading (globalization brings about new avenues of business here), services (financial services, advertising, entertainment other services), IT and IT enabled services etc etc. In fact, India is booming with jobs with supply of skilled human resources not keeping pace with demand. India has seen a number of below-40 billionaires in the last few years, many of them making money in financial services/ stock market etc. The biggest brand in the world today is Google a pure IP based company, a company that was started only 12 years back. The founder of Facebook a company valued at $15 bill dollars is hardly or not even 25. Once Goans start making money in these areas, they may be able to look at the land issue in a slightly different perspective. Not that land is not important, but one may be able to look at things more logically than in a completely emotional manner. Comments of course welcome regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] CM declares war on the Goan people!
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This calls for a SEZ-opposing-style agitation to restore respect for the Panchayats and Gram Sabhas that the Chief Minister is dismissing so easily. - Another wonderful populist post from Mario, talking through a hat which is weather-worn by now. The self-proclaimed champion of capitalism in cahoots with the Marxists? (no offense to Gadgil). Let me just bring you up to speed about Panchayats in Goa. First, their elected head is more often than not, the most uneducated bandit of the village. Secondly, he is not averse to corruption and bribes of his own. For every one mega-project that he may oppose, please ask him of the hundreds of illegal extensions, water connections, room leases without sanitation, buildings without relevant approvals, that he will turn a blind eye too because he has been adequately bribed. Also ask the Panch, how many small ventures or business he puts on hold because he has not be adequately bribed. Goa is such a small territory, there is no need to divest planning power to the panchayats. Infact, there is a need to consolidate power but with the intent to use it beneficently. Unfortunately when such a move is made, power rests in the hands of people like Babush, thereby consolidation earning more ire. I take it Mario's plan to SAVE GOA is about as solid as his plan to abolish casteism among Catholic Goans. Both are conceived in thin air :-) selma
[Goanet] Brestar-Podd'dea Fatlean (8) Azunui Tiatristanim Tech Tras Bhogche?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- www.goa-world. com Quality. Precision. Professional. BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN: (8) Azunui Tiatristanim Tech Tras Bhogche? - Wilmix Wilson Mazarello MAHITI:- Dor-vorsak, Konkani Tiatrank tin “Kall” ( Seasons ) astat, jednam nove Tiatr bhair sortat vo suru zatat. 1..Ek “Kall”, Paskanche Porbek saun suru zata ani Mai-mhuineanche xevott meren cholta (beginning Easter-Sunday goes upto May ). 2. Dusro “Kall’, Pausant suru zata ani Outumbr meren cholta. ( begining June and goes upto October). 3. Tisro “Kall”, Novembrant suru zata ani Janer meren cholta. ( begining November and goes upto January) Atam, sod’deak chalu assa to Konkani tiatracho “Kall”, suru zal’lo Paskanche Porbek saun ani azunui chalu assa. Hea kallant kitlexech nove tiatr bhair sorle, zoxe porim :- A. Prince Jacob-acho “RONG” B. John D’Silva-cho “EKVOTT” C. Comedian Agostinho-cho “POLICE” D. Anil/Olga-cho “GHAVO TUKA DUKH MAKA” E. Comedian Ambe-acho “KALLEM MAZOR” F. Pascoal Rodrigues-acho “TALLNNI” G. Roseferns-acho “MAIM, TUZO UPKARI HANV” H. Anthony Sylvester-acho “DON’T WORRY BE HAPPY” I. Jr. REAGAN-acho “SUN, TEA GHARACHI” J. A.M.Pacheco-cho “CUNHEAD” K. Steve Coelho-cho “HO ROSTO TUMCHO NHUIM” L. Maxcy Pereira-cho “MHAKA DEV BHOGXITOLO” M. Mario Menezes-acho “GHORABEACHE VANTTE” N. Domnic Carvalho-cho “TI TUKA RAUTA” O. Cyril Almeida-cho “KODDU SOTH” P. Jack –E-cho “MOJEM NOXIB” adi...adi...adi... Heam Tiatram-modhle kaim tiatr “Tiatr-rupant”asle ( kantaranche ), zalear kaim tiatr “Non-Stop-rupant” asle ( Khell-tiatr). “Non-Stop” rupant kel’leani ap-aplea, sodanchea, kolakarancho pongodd gheun proeog kele, zalear “Tiatr-rupant” korteleani nanv-vostea gaupi kantoristank gheun , proeog kele. Konnancho tiatr vo “Non –Stop Show” boro zala vo vaitt zala, tem tiatr polloinnaruch sangtole. NANV_VOSTE KANTORIST:- Punn ek matr khorem , “Tiatr-rupant” kortolea Nirmateank (Producer-ank), nanv-vosteam kantorisank tanchea pongddank gheun, ani tanche souloti pormonnem proeog korunk zaite pauttim borech tras gheunche poddtta. Hachem karann mhunttlear, nanv-voste kantorist Goyant, bhou-thodde assat Osle kantorist, choddxe, eka-un subeiz tiatrant ,ekach borobor distat. Kednaim oxem zata, don vo tin tiatranco proeog teach velar, veg-veglleam suvatancher asta. Tedna tinuim tiatrant aslolea kantoristan eke-kodden saun dusre-kodden, ani dusre-kodden saun tisre kodden dhaunchem poddtta. Koxei porim te kantorist tegaim nirmateank (Producer-ank) sambhallttat. Punn tiatarachi manddavoll (summary) matr, kantoristank lagun halounchi poddtta. Nirmateank borench “tension”ui zata. Kitem kortolo ? Lokank bore kantorist zai, mhunnttoch tem il’lem “tension” nirmatean sonschench poddlem. EK UDHARONN:- Chalu aslelea Tiatrachea “Kall”ant, Wilmix ani Sharon ekach borobor don tiatrani aslim.Comedian Ambe-cho “Kallem Mazor” ani Jr. Reagan –acho “Sun Tea Gharachi”. Dogui Nirmate zanno asle ki “Wilmix ani Sharon ” donui tiatrani assat mhunn. Dogui Nirmateani eka-mekak vicharun, ap-aple proeog manddunk suru kele. Dogainchei, sumar vis-ek proeog zai meren kainch “problem” zalena. Wilmix ani Sharon -an , dogainchei tiatr bore toren kele. Konnaikui, koslech tras zalena. Pun May-ache 11 ver 2008, ekach vellar , sanjechea 7 vaztam, dogui Nirmateani ap-aplo tiatr korunk svikarle.. Kallem Mazor” (Choddnnea) ani “Sun Tea Gharachi” (Santana-Curca). Kolltanch, Wilmix /Sharon-an Jr.Reagan –ank sanglem, Santana-cheam contradorak, mell ani tancho tiatr, sanjechea 7 vorancher suru zauncho assa to, il’lo fuddem vhor ani 9 vorancher suru korunk lai mhunn. Mhunnge, tanchean Choddneam “Kallem Mazor” tiatr korun, Santana, tacheai tiatrak pavonk xokta. Jr.. Reagan raaji zalo, ani Santanache contradorui raaji zale. May-ache 11 ver 2008, Wilmix ani Sharon poilim Choddneam gelim, Comedian Ambe-n tankam tiatrachea suruvatekuch, tanchim donuim kantaram gaupak dilem, ani donui kantaram gaun Wilmix ani Sharon , Santana vospak bhair sorlim. Atam meren soglem bore toren zalem . Punn tumi zannant., Choddneam saun Ponje etolo zalear modem “Mandovi Nodi” assa, ani ti par korunk tuje gaddi-ek ani tukai “ferry-boat” lagta. “Ferry-Boat”ikodde pautam mhunnttlear, .Motorcycol-inchi ani gaddi-eanchi vhoddli “line’ asli. Tor atam kosso vetolo ? “Line”, toddunk kaim zata ? Lok zhogddunk etolo. Thuim “line”-int astanach, ratchim 9 vazlim. Santana tiatr suru zauncho vell zalo. Thuinchean Jr Reagan ache phone-ar phone eunk
[Goanet] R V up to saving Goa OR ???????
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Cedric da Costa says: Any body to take up this challenge? I can arrange to Sponsor the latest top brand camera for the cause...FN says: Is there some way I can find an RSS feed for Goanet? No, I'm talking technology... not politics, While Selma is up in teleporting!! Cedric, FN Goanet members, Goa is no more under the control of Goans. Goan MLAs and MPs have sold Goa out right to non-Goans. So much so that Goans have even lost their identity. Some Goans are desperately trying to save Goa ...but no Goan is coming up with definite idea how to save Goa. Despite this, we Goans at Goanet are too busy to counter one's message with stupid ideology. If pro-congress writes a message - pro-BJP are up in arms visa - Versa. More touching is that if pro-BJP writes against Congress Pro- Congress not only get into arms but take on machinegun to fire bullets left, right center without even aiming! Finally at the end of the day.we are only allowing Congress to destroy loot and plunder Goa!! Three Cheers to Congress and supporters of Congress!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] DEATH ANNIVERSARY MASS JOSE.F.LOPES
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Members, 1st Death Anniversary Requiem Mass Jose Francisco Lopes A year ago on 19th May you quietly and peacefully left us without even a goodbye. We hold your memories, your smile, generosity and the sound of your laughter and love forever. In life we loved you Francis, and in death we do the same. Fondly missed by your sorrowful wife Mila, dearest one and only son Querobino (Q), daughter-in-law Lilian, Grandsons Calvin Gareth. Eucharistic Celebration for the soul of our most dearly beloved Francis will be held on Saturday 17th May 2008 at the Shrine of Mary Help of Christians, Upper Hill at 3.00pm. For on behalf of the Family, GWS
[Goanet] Eduardo Faleiro's Circus to tour Kenya, Mozambique
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Eduardo Faleior's circus to tour Kenya, Mozambique After an unsuccessful tour of the Gulf states and biting dust for giving away the NRI leadership awards to little know individuals in the Goan community...Eduardo and his entourage will finally go to Kenya and Mozambique to identify and award the Goans involved in community servicewell good opportunity for those who have money to throw and wine and dine the entourage...the next award is yours! Typical of Eduardo faleiro...when Goa is burning he is interested in touring Kenya and Mozambique...well what to say...wasnt he the same Eduaro who toook refuge in Delhi when Goans were fighting for koankanni in Goa in the 1980's... Politicians never change... Cedric da Costa Dubai
[Goanet] Arn't Delhiwalas governing Goa?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Arnt Delhiwallas governing Goa? What a mail by J CGod! Every Goan should print this mail and stick it on their forheads or paste it on their doors ..finally the best mail on Goanet came by in a long time...hope the fanatical posters on Goanet understand the depths of this mail and its contents...well written JC... Today a group of fanatics are trying to save Goa...i agree with J C ...too late...Goa was lost when it was liberated...that liberation was Goa's doom... Today a group of photo journalists are touring Goa, and trying to put the blame on the ruling dispensation...what happened when other governments were in power? did they build mud homes instead of concrete jungles or they just didnt get enough time before they were kicked out by the electorate to convert Goa into a concrete jungle...tomorrow if the out of power brigade ever comes to power, will they build stone houses with lime instead of cement? Wake up Goans do not fall prey to this fake propogandait is easy to shout 'rape' and allow the rapist to run away or get away through the back door... in fact Goa was sold out by Bandodkar, sashikala, rane, willy and the subsequent politicians...the current greedy crop of politicians are only following in the trend of the old masters...and i doubt the new generation of politicians will ever change the trend...today corruption and loot is started at the panchayat, municipality level and it graduates to the MLA or minister level... take for example margao...babu naik laid the foundations for the monti dongor slum for migrants...when asked by the media once, digu smartly said he doesnt know who started the migrant trend in margao...digu built homes, toilets for them, gave them ration cards and also won their votes and hearts... can someone stop this type of 'rape'of this land... following such examples...slums have cropped up in every village...Goans must fight that...but the local politician and his panchayat or municipality level croonies will prevent that from happening...so understand where Goans lost?...where is goa losing? And the migrants wont care if digu contests the election on BJP or congress...to them he was the saviour under any banner, to them they believe Digu more than the God who they worship but have never seen heard or felt...so who cares... So the actual rape of Goa is done by who? the builders? the politicians? or the mine owners? or the migrants? or their patrons? or by Goan voters themselves? If the constitution is quoted...any indian is free to settle in any part of india...see how Amitabh Bachchan is proving that to Raj Thackeray...judge! One Goanetter shouts hoarse saying...Delhiwalla...doesn't all ruling parties in goa take commands from Delhiwallas? Isnt the high command of the BJP and congress in Delhi? so delhiwallas can decide on Goa's governance and that is pleasure...but if a delhiwallah develops property in Goa is is called 'rape'? Weren't there migrants and builders from outside Goa during the successive governements rule as they are in the era of the congress? Didnt investors from outside Goa come down to buy land and invest in business during the BJP rule as in the congress...? Why are Goans running away from Goa to the gulf...australia...london? why? Why is there such a huge demand to acquire Portuguese passports and flee Goa? Why are minorities feeling so insecure in Goa? and who fuels the fires against the minorities? Has Goa progressed since Liberation...we oppose anything and everything...from a new airport to a new housing plan...we target any growth prospects by naming it 'rape'wow what a word this? Goans, who ever are left out there...please see through the evil designs of certain vested interests who are set to ignite the fires in Goa and in every village and will run away to a foreign land once the hidden agenda is achieved... Be careful of the people who shout rape -- face them and ask them if they can help you catch the rapist than merely shouting rape or photographing a raped victim when it is too late... Kind regards Cedric da Costa Dubai
[Goanet] INVITATION COCKTAIL ON 23RD MAY 2008 GYM
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Members, Through the courtesy of the High Commission of India, His Excellency Mr.Eduardo Faleiro the Commissioner for NRI affairs in the government of Goa will be visiting Nairobi. He has requested to meet with the Goan Community. The Goan Gymkhana will host Mr.Faleiro to a cocktail by the poolside on 23rd May, 2008 at 7.00pm. We request all who may be interested, to kindly put down their names by the 21st May 2008. There will be a cash bar and charges are shs 300 per person. Kindly get in touch with Joseph on 0722 793437 E mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goan Gymkhana020 3747269 For on behalf of the Goan Gymkhana GWS
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Hi Eddie Just for the record, I want to say how saddened I was by what Michelle Savage had to say about the difficulties she and her husband faced in Goa when it seems clear that they chose to live in Goa with perfect credentials, finance and clean motives. I would not say the same about many others who have 'colonised' parts of Goa and illegally blocked areas to local Goans and about which the Government should act by easily deporting some, when entirely in the wrong, as per the law. I do not wish to repeat many of the points on this theme raised by Selma, Mario, Santosh etc but want to emphasise that it really is time that many fellow Goans got out of their extreme parochialism that determines their mindsets about contemporary change in Goa. I say this whilst fully recognising the effects on ordinary people of significant population change in Goa but want to emphasise that demonising new people seeking a life and contribution to Goa is not the way to do it. It is a fact that virtually all people resident in Goa today came from elsewhere in the recent or distant past and that there will continue to be transitions because of the normal human movement phenomena. We really have a global paradox today in that, in virtually any part of the world, local residents are besides themselves over new settlers in their midst but at the same time, over 200 million (including large numbers of Goans) are currently seeking a life in new countries. This is a fact that, has to be reconciled with, and adjusted to, through intelligent means and endeavours by the Goans in Goa. There is indeed, at least on Goanet, something to say that, constructive and carefully thought-out planning is now becoming more evident and I would want to wish this aspect (rather than xenophobia) every success. Cornel DaCosta, London. --- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confiscate properties of UK Goans and deport them Source: Herald 14 May 2008 at http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3950cid=13 By Michelle Savage, UK Full text: Eight years ago, my husband and I decided that we no longer wanted to deal with the stress of working in high pressure jobs. Our children were all married and half of them had moved abroad. We looked around and decided to move to Goa.
Re: [Goanet] CM declares war on the Goan people!
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Comeon guys, be fair to Digu bab. He's just taking care of the guys who keep him in power (and you thought YOU voted to decide?) If you or me or Manoharbab were in the hot seat, I guess we would have done very much of the same thing. Let's be generous in judging the trespassers, so that others might, one day, judge us too similarly. FN 2008/5/15 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This calls for a SEZ-opposing-style agitation to restore respect for the Panchayats and Gram Sabhas that the Chief Minister is dismissing so easily. - Another wonderful populist post from Mario, talking through a hat which is weather-worn by now. The self-proclaimed champion of capitalism in cahoots with the Marxists? (no offense to Gadgil)...
Re: [Goanet] M.F. Hussain- Delhi High Court Observations
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- RE the comments of Sandeep Heble. The objections to the paintings of Hussain have been stated many times, even on this forum. The essential point here is not nude paitings, but paintings of Hindu gods and goddesses in nude. Furthermore, in some of the paintings, Hussain as used his so-called artistic freedom to depict the gods and goddesses in erotic position. And Hussain has used his artistic license only in case of Hindu gods and goddesses, but not even on secular subjects, except in case of Hitler. I am told that in a TV programme in September 2004, he explained that the reason he painted Hitler in nude is because he considered Hitler to be a shaitan (devil). When a member in the audience asked if, given the fact that he painted Hindu gods and goddesses in the nude, he considered them to be also shaitan, he gave no answer. (And let us recognise that in Sept 2004, when there was already cases against Hussain in courts in India, he was free to go about in India and even appear on the TV!) Sandeep makes a definitive statement that those who protested against Hussain hadn't even seen the paintings, leave alone understand them. On this forum, the nature of the objectionable Hussain's paintings were discussed, and I had said that they are already circulated around the net. I do not know how Sandeep can make such a definitive statement. I havbe sent him, privately, copies of the objectionable paintings, and I would appreciate if he makes comment on them. Incidentally, an arch secularist, Tarun Tejpal wrote some time ago: Defending artistic freedom is easy, but defending Husain can be tricky. Recently I was on a television panel discussion on the Limits to Artistic Freedom, and most of the show revolved around Husain's painting of Sita and Hanuman, and the ensuing attack on him by the Bajrang Dal. As a die-hard liberal, I was expected to defend Husain, and I did, but with dampened enthusiasm, and that too merely the principle of it, and not as its practiced by Husain. For, a few minutes before the show began I had a chance to see a copy of the painting. I must admit it's an incredibly erotic one - unlike the nude Saraswati which can be seen as ethereal - and Husain must really love trouble to have let it out into the public domain. Whatever their artistic worth, such paintings have simply too much inflamatory potential to be sent out into the world. I'd be curious to know what Husian was thinking when he fired it off. [Outlo ok, June 8, 1998.] So an incredibly erotic painting of Sita and Hanuman is defended on a matter of principle - what exactly that is I do not really understand. The High Court judgement quotes Pablo Picasso as saying art is never chaste. Does this mean that Picvasso thought that it was perfectly legitimate to paint gods and goddesses in an unchaste manner? Perhaps Sandeep can enlighten me. Picasso is also quoted as saying: Where (art) is chaste, it is not art. Hussain is famous for his pictures of horses. I think they would be classified as chaste. In which ase, Picasso would classify them as not art. It is then a wonder how these non-art pictures fetch such high prices! The judgement talks about erotic art in Hindu temples. This point too was also discussed on this forum, and the point made was that the erotic sculptures did not depict gods and goddesses, and that this art is not the general rule. I do not understand how the judge is not able to make the distinction. The judgement says: Today Indian art is confidently coming of age. Yes, in the context of the judgement, does one conclude that this coming of age is restricted to only the erotic art of Hindu gods and goddesses? The judgement says: Sex and obscenity are not always synonymous and it would be wrong to classify sex as essentially obscene or even indecent or immoral. Yes, I agree with the statement. But the operative part is not always. So one has to see the pictures under consideration, and make a judgement. As I said earlier, I have sent the pictures to Sandeep, and I look forward to his comment whether in this case sex and obscenity is synonymous. The judgement also says: Our commitment to freedom of expression demands that it cannot be suppressed unless the situations created by allowing the freedom are pressing and the community interest is endangered. The anticipated danger should not be remote, conjectural or far-fetched. It should have
[Goanet] Tiatr
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Mogal Bhava Bhoinino Tiatrachi Machi ani tiatr korpachi rit azunn chodd xi bodlonk nam. Thodde thodde tiatr kednai kednai dusre baxen zatat. Zaite zann mhoje baxen lhan boropi assat takam tenko ditolo konn nam. Sonstha assa punn ti saxtintuch cholta. Goyemchea sorkaran tiatr unch kaddpak adar diunk zai aslo. tiatrachi machi tuinch urli. Thodde tiatr podd'deanich zatat. Marathi natkam baxen amche konkni tiatr kiteac unch tonkxecher pavonant? Tiatr xhapunn amchi pustokam bhair kaddpak adar diunk zai to adar dissonam. Aiz konkani film mhonntat tem Nirmon zalea uprant chodd xhem toslem film hanven pollounk nam ..Konkani film industry, tiatr industry or company ghoddun haddpak sorkaran adar korunk zai. Eke companyink tiatrist fix assunk zai. Bore baxen stage setting, lighting, sound effect, etc he companyink assunk Zai. Ami tea tempar assaum zednam Alexin de candolim, Minguel Rod etc tiatr kortale tedna podd'de gal'tale tossech zai te fauti toslech podde ami palkar polletam. Hanven ek faut Mumbachea x haran ek Marathi natok poll'lem. Oxem maka dislem ki hanv eka cinemachea hallant assam kosso. Kitem acting, kitem stage setting, ? Amche tiatrani ube ravon ami sodanc kiteac ulloitam? sofa assat punn tacher bosson ulloilele hanven kednanch polloun nam. Latest technology uzar korpak maka dista amche lagim zaumche nam. Mog assundi Albert De Souza _ 2000 Placements last year. Are You next ? Find out http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=499
Re: [Goanet] Clowns on Goanet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Collars in the Northern Hemisphere tend not to be very starchy. We know they lean to stiffy in B's Alfama home-district ; so JC should know better than to won ton a good old caldo of codfish ! B has been in the company of presidents-for-life long enough to lose all familiarity with parody. North Americans enjoy the phrase just kidding, it is between friends, always, and the give in tease, goes with take, too. B still has a friend in Rolly and Jose, I am sure.eric. J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear ole xac, It appears that Xacuti should head back to where it really belongs i.e. to the 'Cusine' The resident clown from the IR of MakaPowChow may wish to read posts carefully before venturing out to comment. If he had done that, he would have realised that it was Rajan (and not any one else) who called others 'Vermin'. Ok guy ...No more Chow Mein for you - only half a Won Ton Soup cheers jc Bernado Colaco : 1: Toronto decided to take a swipe at me because of a typo error. He was joined by the back foot cricket player from the the same region. Goanet has a few clowns mainly in the region of the Northern Hemisphere. 2: Today Rajan is carrying this onslaught and now the back foot maratista calls it vermin and claims to have written on Goan issues more than 12 years ago - deva makapao!
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Hi Eddie This article by the so called foreigners, ( I would call them willing Goans) to our politicians they are foreignor, NO Votes so call them alliens, The concept of foreigners cannot buy land, why , like they have put it accross, can we absorb all our Goans abroad, ?? What are we trying to do dig our past, I would do the basic, hold on to my land, we have survived by exodus to Sea , Africa, Gulf , UK, US and Australia, if we can so can they. I am a proud Goan , who lives here loves it here, I have tried to adjust, Places , People and circumstances I cannot change , just myself. IF I HAVE TI LIVE, CASTIGASTE OUR POLITICIANS, CAN WE ?? DO WE??? Do we really care about our GOA. or just our pockets, Ayres deSouza On 5/14/08, Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confiscate properties of UK Goans and deport them Source: Herald 14 May 2008 at http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=3950cid=13 By Michelle Savage, UK Full text: Eight years ago, my husband and I decided that we no longer wanted to deal with the stress of working in high pressure jobs. Our children were all married and half of them had moved abroad. We looked around and decided to move to Goa. We approached a reputed builder and local advocate, who all told us we were safe to buy property in Goa. To be on the safe side, we asked the advocate to confirm through the Reserve Bank (RBI) that any purchase made by us was legal. We received a letter from the RBI advising that there would be no objection, providing we complied with FEMA. We still have this letter. As we are not great lovers of modern architecture, we purchased an old Portuguese house with a nice-sized garden. All the paperwork was completed and we took possession of the property. Renovating the property and grounds was expensive; in all honesty it would have been cheaper to build a new house. But we were happy that it was our last house and we would make it just as we wanted. For several years we were very happy in Goa. Then all of sudden we are being treated quite disgracefully. The press runs daily horror stories of how Goa doesn't want people like us. We originally came on a 5 year X Visa. Then we were told we no longer qualify for these visas, and can only have a six-month tourist visa. Now MLAs are openly saying that properties purchased by foreigners will be confiscated and auctioned. We sadly decided to leave Goa, but were informed that we could not sell our property. Our builder, who has enjoyed our patronage for years, has said that he will deal with all the paperwork if we sell the house to him for the initial purchase price (excluding what we paid him). My husband has become quite ill from all the stress, and we are now back in the UK so that he can be treated for the illness this has brought on. While we are here, I will asking the UK government to put in place a reciprocal arrangement whereby properties of Goan settlers in the UK are confiscated and the country's 60,000 Goan immigrants are forced to return to India. We want to say that we wished we had never heard of Goa and had never visited India. The whole experience makes me want to constantly cry, and I have been prescribed anti-depressants, something that never happened in the past. I would make a sincere plea to the authorities in Goa. We haven't done anything wrong. Let us sell our legally purchased property and we guarantee we will come back again. Forwarded by Eddie Fernandes http://www.goanvoice.org.uk/ -Original Message- Goa has become a Toilet 13 May: British Expats Goa Forum. http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536195 -- Ayres deSouza
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- --- CORNEL DACOSTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eddie Just for the record, I want to say how saddened I was by what Michelle Savage had to say about the difficulties she and her husband faced in Goa --- Dear Eddie and Cornel, A Irish gentleman read my letter on Goanet and wrote in to thank me. I was rather glad he somehow came across my letter, if only to reassure him that not all Goans are xenophobes. There is an outcry that Goans cannot afford property or flats in Goa, so let me pose some pertinent questions? a) How many Goans can afford Wendel's creations? Does this mean that Wendel must produce a designer line of Kapod and Kasti, at affordable rates for Goans? b) How many Goans can Remo find to finance, produce and distribute his music? Does this mean he stop producing music or does he seek financing and distribution where he can? c) How many Goans can afford the lobsters that are sold at beach shacks for Rs600 a plate? Does this mean Goan fishermen supply to shacks only after every family in Goa has had a lobster on its plate? Land is a resource and like any other resource it is in short supply. People all over the world are facing the same problem Goans are, which is why you elect governments that put in place, affordable interest rates, housing loan assistance, relieving the pressure on the housing market by building low-cost housing. These are some of the legitimate ways of doing it in a free-market democracy. Yes, ofcourse we have to conserve our land, our culture and our heritage but we don't have to lose our dignity or thwart democracy in the process. selma
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- It is quite wonderful that new laws can be introduced to protect Goa Goan land from non-Goans or should this be non-PIO. Yes wonderful. Is it so wonderful that these laws can then be back-dated to another time or put out a person or family from their home AFTER they have settled lived in the country, no doubt contributing as did this couple in their retirement years, by doing up an old house also the land surrounding it, only to be told to leave, Goa does not want you? I was approached by a developer some years ago, visited a conference they held at a hotel in Kensington, London. Was absolutely thrilled to see what was happening in Goa, but that was some years ago, at least 15 years ago. My wife me where self-employed business people on good money, we had a young family but thought about our future and wanted to do the same as this couple, buy a place and build a house, with a little land for cultivating own vegetables, have a nice tree or two and flowers etc. But we were very wary of the rights of our children, being girls etc. in Goa. Since my post on this last year, I was advised at the time that if my girls were PIO then there is no issue, there were several routes we could take to ensure their future, and property rights etc. After much ado, here there we noticed the developers were always asking for money upfront, the villas or duplex's etc were not yet built but deposits were being taken, so we did not go ahead. Lucky for us. PIO or otherwise, one of us is NOT a PIO, will the Goan or Indian Government then choose to add a further amendment to the law and prohibit any spouse of a PIO not reside in their house? Goa is getting hysterial with this, I am so very sorry for this couple, who in 8 years have managed to live contribute to Goan society in their retirement but have been made to feel like the Ghattis the Goans abhor... PIO or not, this couple were Westerners sorry, but Goa is for Goans only, no other people, not even from India or other parts of the world are welcome to live there. Do come as tourists, we want your money, but if you decide to stay a bit too long, then we dont want you, we want new, fresh (young.?) things with money, spend spend spend on booze drugs, till you drop, or we will drop you, one way or another. Disgraceful, I cannot believe my eyes and ears these days. Luckily MY PIO spouse is from Mauritius, where I AM welcome, as her spouse, to live indefinitely, in much the same way as she is WELCOME to live in the UK, where I was born, of European parentage, live, work, contribute to the society, as she has done for past 19 years. In Mauritius I know I will not be treated in this way, by the Mauritian Government, nor by the locals, with whom I have a great rapport. I am not the only European welcome in Mauritius, but then I suppose Mauritius has kept its exclusivity, anyone who can rustle up a couple hundred quid can find their way to a hotel for a week. For the same in Mauritius, well you need to rustle up five times that, and that's just the cheap end of the market. Anyone wanting a week in Mauritius can say goodbye to Rs 200,000 (fare, travel, food, hotel, sighseeing). Unless you are like me, married to a Mauritian and have Mauritian relatives who know how to save money, rent a bungalow for the same price as I would have paid in Goa, yes that CHEAP. Maybe its time to draw a line.. if you dont want strangers in your country, put a sign saying so, just as the sign we once saw on Goanet, from a house owner wanting to rent his house FOREIGERS ONLY ... except now it should read Goans only, no Ghattis or Westerners need apply. Welcome to Goa! Oh my goodness, this cant go on. --- Eight years ago, my husband and I decided that we no longer wanted to deal with the stress of working in high pressure jobs . We approached a reputed builder and local advocate, who all told us we were safe to buy property in Goa. To be on the safe side, we asked the advocate to confirm through the Reserve Bank (RBI) that any purchase made by us was legal. We received a letter from the RBI advising that there would be no objection, providing we complied with FEMA. We still have this letter. As we are not great lovers of modern
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Selma, It is comforting to know that there are other Goans who share my concerns. Yes, I too am puzzled by some of the Goan reactions to Foreign Nationals buying property in Goa. We have been led to understand that the Goan per capita income is the highest in India but property prices used to be comparatively very low. They are now catching up with national and international levels but the locals will not accept this and are looking for scapegoats. Your analogy about Goans not being to afford fish is interesting but the reason for this I am often told is due to the presence of tourists in Goa! If this is the case I cannot understand why fish cannot be brought into Goa from Karwar and Kerala. Also, do fish prices collapse in the May to Oct. period each year? I do not believe that the threat of confiscation of Foreign Nationals properties will stand the test of the High Court since the law is a Union rather than a State one. The Goa Government knows this but continues to beat the drum to appease the mindless citizens. The noise is scary! Eddie Fernandes -Original Message- From: Carvalho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is very distressing to read the letter you Forwarded ... What is going on in Goa at the moment is sheer and utter madness.
[Goanet] Tackling builders - The Moira way
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Hi All, Background: Trouble began brewing in Paradise. Trouble began brewing in otherwise quiet, sleepy Moira when P. D. Kamat of Aldona began developing a plot in Povoasaum, Moira. When aware Moidekars like Dr. Victor D'Souza, Ms. Vizilia D'Sa (Ex- Sarpanch) and the Moira Civic and Consumer Forum found myriad loopholes in the project. They went about the business of setting right the wrongs perpetrated by the builders in a very systematic manner using various legal means at hand. Their very rewarding and fruitful fight is worth emulating and is reproduced here for others to emulate. CONSTRUCTION OF 29 FLATS IN POVOACAO, MOIRA This has reference to the 29 flats that are being constructed in the area of approx. 2000 sq. mtrs. in Survey No.72/15 in Povoacao, Moira, Bardez, Goa, the property of which belongs to Dr. Cecil Clifford Anthony D'Souza of the U.K. through his attorney Mr.Gurudas Raikar of Moira who in turn has signed an agreement to develop the plot with the builder M/s P.D.Kamat of Aldona. The below mentioned information has been obtained under the Right to Information Act 2005 1. The Applicants file was given entry No.1217 on 3.1.07 in the Village Panchayat's Office in Moira. And the site inspection was fixed for 12.1.07. But on 8.1.07 the Sarpanch and the V.P. Secretary without placing the file before the elected body, prematurely forwarded the same to the Town Planner and other authorities for NOC's. Neither was the file placed before the Gram Sabha as is required for all major projects when such a resolution was passed by the Gram Sabha earlier. 2. The Ex. Sarpanch who was the Administrator and the V.P.Secretary recorded a resolution No.1 (a) on 28.3.07 and issued the construction license to the Applicant for the said project. In the light of this it is wrong and misleading to state that the resolution was approved in the meeting of the V.P.Moira as the term of the Village Panchayat had ended on 30.1.07. 3. Dy.Town Planner,Town Country Planning Dept., Mapusa in her letter No.DB/21339/07/736 dated 8.3.07 observed .Further that the proposed soak pit/septic tank is within 15 meters of the existing well to the adjoining property, a well existing near the pump house in the proposed site was not shown on the site plan. And hence the Dy. Town Planner requested the Administrator, Village Panchayat Moira to keep the NOC No.DB/12339/07/255, dated 2.2.07 of the Town Country Planning Dept., Mapusa in abeyance till the applicant revised the site plan which was not heeded to by the Ex. Sarpanch and the V.P.Secretary, Moira. 4. Similarly, the Health Officer, Primary Health Centre, Aldona in his letter No. PHCA/Comp/VP-Moi/06-07/1675 dated 27.2.07 agreed that the well in Sy. 72/18 is in close proxity to the proposed soak pit of the abovementioned construction. In this regards it is suggested that the owner should shift the location of the soak pit to the nallah side of the plot-where there is no well, on sanitation ground which again was not heeded to by the Ex.Sarpanch and the V.P.Secretary. 5. According to the procedures all the concerned 5 Departments ought to inspect the site before issuing the NOC's/ permission for construction. It is difficult to understand how all the five departments (Town Country Planning Dept., Public Works Dept., Primary Health Centre, Aldona, Block Development Officer, Mapusa, Electricity Dept., Village Panchayat, Moira) did not see the existing well in the property when the well is clearly shown on the Survey plan. Is this a coincidence or connivance by the authorities? 6. The Senior Town Planner, Mapusa in his letter No.21/22/MOI/TCP/08/39 dated 13.2.08 agrees as follows: Yes, it is true that the Applicant has not shown the existing open well while obtaining the NOC dated 2.2.07 and it amounts to furnishing incorrect information and violation of condition No. 2 of the NOC. And he further adds, the NOC issued was not revoked but kept in abeyance as it was not a major mistake and the revised site plan could be insisted and approved. And further in the same letter he says the official of this public authority has conducted the inspection before issuing the NOC. The reason on missing out the well in the original site plan by the officer is by over sight. It is impossible that this could be an oversight by all 5 departments. 7. By furnishing false and misleading information the Applicant has violated condition No.2
[Goanet] Builders step on the pedal
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- To Goanet - With the rapid spread of popular resistance to residential projects all over the state, builders have been forced to shift into top gear. They have stepped up the pace of the construction at their sites and several projects have now been put on the fast track to completion. Foundations are being sunk into the ground at a furious pace. The strategy is simple and well known by now: get something going quick, then take it to the courts if people object. By and by, things will be 'regularized.' Warm regards, r
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #104
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- DAILY HAIKU #104: __ WORK SHIRK __ by FR govt. employees just come to shirk, we beg u please don't kam to work! ___ http://2008goanconvention.com _ _
[Goanet] A Book Review of My God of Surprises
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- My God of Surprises. A St. Paul Publication. Maria E Fernandes born in Colva, Goa at the age of 72 has authored her first book My God of Surprises, her autobiography. In actual fact the book is less about her and more of a wonderful journey in times and speaks of places and cultures starting from Goa in the 1930s, 40s and 50s; moving on to pre-independence Kenya and the emotional struggle of immigrant families during its independence. In a very interesting narrative, she describes in detail her parents marriage in the mid 1930, her childhood, life in rural Goa, urban Goa, titbits about how the goans did things in those days of no electricity and telephone. It talks about their identity struggle first as goans under the Portuguese rule and then as Asians in Kenya, ruled by the British. Most of all it is the faith journey as she alternates between questioning Gods plan and acknowledging it with wonder as she struggles through the ups and downs of her eventful life. It is a book of 180 pages that can be read and enjoyed by all ages. To the youngsters, it gives an insight into the simplicity of life in the olden days, the implicit trust that our grandparents put in the Almighty and the unquestioning faith that supported all their decisions and ways of life. I thoroughly enjoyed the book and am sure that you will too Happy Reading!! Mrs. Loretta Afonso. Borda, Margao. This book is available for Rs 200/- with me. kindly contact at 9923350299 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reproduction of one chapter of the book: CHILDHOOD DREAMS REALIZED AT LAST! Africa here I come! On the afternoon of 2 December 1955, accompanied by Papa and Mae and my two older sisters I left home for Marmagoa Port. My wedding trousseau, my gold wedding set and some of my clothes were packed in a strong tin trunk which belonged to our great uncle Caetano. Mae also packed a small crate with three sealed tins containing home-made chouricos, parra and bolinhas a type of goan native biscuits. Since the tin trunk woulk be in the hold during the entire sea journey, I had to carry a bag of my clothes with me. That evening I was due to board the small cargo/passenger Portuguese steamer, Lurio for my journey to Karachi en route to Kenya. Due to the political differences between India and Portugal, India had closed its borders with Goa. Hence our ship had to make a detour to reach Karachi. This day was also the 20th death anniversary of my grandfather, Jack. How significant! For wasn't he the hero of my Grandmother's Africa stories? Wasn't he the author of my childhood dreams? And here was I stepping out of my home almost in fulfilment of those dreams, sort of a fairy tale with a happy ending! Except that it was not a fairy tale but the providence of a loving, caring God at work in my life! It was at dusk that I embarked on the steamer Lurio. Incidentally, the fiancee of Baptist's brother was also travelling on the Lurio. However, she had got a cabin class with her sister and their family members. Whilst looking for some space like a lost sheep, an elderly lady came to my rescue. She was travelling with her newly wedded daughter-in-law to Nairobi. She provided for me some space with them. Till today I remember these two good souls who were my companions during that journew to Karachi. The next day, 3 December was the feast of the Patron of Goa, the great Saint Francis Xavier. Eary that morning there was a Mass on our steamer, after which I came on the deck with the other passengers to bid good-bye to our families. Papa, Mae and my two sisters were already standing just a few yards opposite me on the docks. I was even able to exchange a few words with them. They had spent the night in some lodging in Marmagoa to be there so early in the morning. Mae would never stay away from home, not even a single night. And here she was because of me. As the steamer was about to move, my 15-year old brother emerged with my cousin Antonio. They had cycled from Margao, a distance of at leat 15 kilometres. It was now about 7.30 in the moring; so they must have left home before dawn, perhaps as early as 4.00 o'clock. Now, with the exception of the city centres, there was no electricity in Goa during those days. And these two youngsters had cycled all the way on unlit, dirt laden roads just to see me for a few minutes standing on the deck of this boat.I was simply overwhelmed by the love of my family.. My
[Goanet] Development
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Subject - Development Goa's Chief Minister is using the magic word of Development, to support the builders lobby, against the wishes of the people. It is more of the development of his builder friends, potential additions to his migrant vote bank and of course, his personal/political interests. Yes, Goa needs development but it has to be in line to the interests of Goa's Goans; and not the interests of Mr. Kamats greedy Congress Party the builders lobby. There can be fair solutions to develop Goa preserve our identity be part of the Global Community; but unfortunately these politicians will not try/act; mainly because of the huge illegitimate financial gains, they could loose and also, they wouldn't want to do anything that could possibly unease, their supreme masters in New Delhi. Arwin Mesquita, UAE.
[Goanet] ‘Development issues under state purvi ew’
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- It is interesting to see the chorus of political voices saying that the state government should decide on 'development' issues. There does not appear to be a single politician who is willing to say that the gram sabhas should decide such issues. Representative democracy is obviously better suited to our politicians than the kind of direct democracy we are seeing now. That way they can continue taking anti-people decisions and lining their own pockets. Didn't Micky Pacheco make all the right noises at the meeting with Benaulim villagers. But now he wants to 'act tough'? - TOI, Panjim, 14/5/08 ‘Development issues under state purview’ Sanjay Banerjee Raju Nayak | TNN Margao/Panaji: The state government has decided to take on gram sabhas that are opposing construction projects. According to sources, promoters of projects who obtained permission from panchayats could appeal to the directorate of panchayats in case their permissions were revoked by the gram sabhas. Panchayat minister Babu Azgaonkar said on Monday that gram sabhas opposing projects that have been already approved had no right to do so. “Technical approvals are permissions granted under the law and nobody, including the gram sabhas, can revoke them,” Azgaonkar said. While gram sabhas have a right to put pressure on the panchayat to revoke construction projects, a crucial question being asked is: ‘Can all projects in the villages be reviewed by the gram sabha or is there a certain cap in terms of the nature of the projects that fall under their purview?’ Director of panchayats Menino D’Souza says that the infrastructural problems regarding roads, water supply and electricity that gram sabhas have raised are issues pertaining to the development of the state and fall within the jurisdiction of the higher authorities. PWD minister Churchill Alemao, who earlier represented Benaulim, is of the opinion that projects that are in gross violation of the laws should be scrapped but those that have certain anomalies could be amicably sorted out. “At this rate there would be no development at all. To sort out the issue of availability of water to the villages, I have issued a circular stating that any housing project with more than 30 flats should be directed to my department because I am also vested with the power of looking after water supply,” said Alemao. While expressing his ire against the protests, tourism and housing minister Francisco X (Mickky) Pacheco, who is the current MLA from the constituency, said, “I fail to understand what is happening. If there are certain defects in the plan of housing and any mistake that can be corrected it should be done by discussions instead of agitations. The government needs to act tough.” -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
[Goanet] Why activists dont fight elections?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- This is interesting. Just before these elections, I was one of the few who was shouting hoarse that GBA should fight elections. I was ridiculed by many activists. I remember Miguel Braganza telling me to stand for elections and that I will not get any votes. Fair enough. We elect our representatives through elections. Once we elect them, they do what they please for five years. Wasnt this mayhem then not anticipated ? Perhaps next time, the activities will get together and fight elections. Preparations for that should start now itself, really. regards, Samir
[Goanet] Daily Quote #24
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- __ DAILY QUOTE #24: __ Yes, I am trying to save Goa from Dubaium, no that's not what I meant...! Dubai is not a monster, Digu is! Aaaargh! Save my sanity, I need a save,yaar! Sadrico da Costa - confused Goenkar in Dubai. __ BELSEN: Ecological genocide in Goa, circa 2008. http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/dpaula-3.jpg Call: 832-2428482 Cell: 9822153280/9422063195 --- _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
Re: [Goanet] Daily Quote
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Francis Rodrigues wrote: __ DAILY QUOTE #23: __ Do not criticize Macau! Is your cow any better?? Francis, I think you misunderstood the word. It is Macaw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaw Mervyn3.0 When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber. - Winston Churchill - __ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/
[Goanet] Paes-Robredo in Hamburg Masters quarterfinal
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Paes-Robredo in Hamburg Masters quarterfinal Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, May 15 (IANS) Leander Paes and his new partner Tommy Robredo moved into the quarterfinals of the Hamburg Masters tennis tournament, stunning third seed Israeli pair of Jonathan Erlich and Andy Ram in the second round. The unseeded Indo-Spanish pair had to stretch themselves to the full to prevail over the Erlich-Ram duo 6-3, 4-6, 10-2 in the super tie-breaker Wednesday night. They will next face the winners of the match between eighth seed Australian-South African pair of Paul Hanley and Wesley Moodie and the unseeded Croat-Swedish combination of Ivan Ljubicic and Robin Soderling. The other Indian in the event, Mahesh Bhupathi and his Bahamian partner Mark Knowles had already been shown the door in the second round by the unseeded American pair of James Blake and Mardy Fish.
Re: [Goanet] Goa has become a Toilet
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- While we are here, I will asking the UK government to put in place a reciprocal arrangement whereby properties of Goan settlers in the UK are confiscated and the country's 60,000 Goan immigrants are forced to return to India. Folks, 1) It amazes me that in today's world, a person can migrate to another country and insist on keeping the nationality of his old country. 2) Thankfully, the British have a sense of justice and do not pass 'revenge' laws for its citizens. 3) I agree with the author that Goa has become a toilet. The current crop of people who pose as politicians today are, essentially, the scum of Goan society. All they are concerned about is how to make money (bribes) in the short term. The pressure they are putting on foreigners to abandon their property has to be coming from their masters i.e. the builders and property developers from out of state. Mervyn3.0 __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Tiatr
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Are Albert bab tujem sarkem re.. Punn stage setting korpak chodd korch eta nhuim tea passot amchea tiatrist bhav cholta toxem cholo-di mhuntat. Tankam fokot poixe korpak zai. --- Albert Desouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Mogal Bhava Bhoinino Tiatrachi Machi ani tiatr korpachi rit azunn chodd xi bodlonk nam. Thodde thodde tiatr kednai kednai dusre baxen zatat. Zaite zann mhoje baxen lhan boropi assat takam tenko ditolo konn nam. Sonstha assa punn ti saxtintuch cholta. Goyemchea sorkaran tiatr unch kaddpak adar diunk zai aslo. tiatrachi machi tuinch urli. Thodde tiatr podd'deanich zatat. Marathi natkam baxen amche konkni tiatr kiteac unch tonkxecher pavonant? Tiatr xhapunn amchi pustokam bhair kaddpak adar diunk zai to adar dissonam. Aiz konkani film mhonntat tem Nirmon zalea uprant chodd xhem toslem film hanven pollounk nam ..Konkani film industry, tiatr industry or company ghoddun haddpak sorkaran adar korunk zai. Eke companyink tiatrist fix assunk zai. Bore baxen stage setting, lighting, sound effect, etc he companyink assunk Zai. Ami tea tempar assaum zednam Alexin de candolim, Minguel Rod etc tiatr kortale tedna podd'de gal'tale tossech zai te fauti toslech podde ami palkar polletam. Hanven ek faut Mumbachea x haran ek Marathi natok poll'lem. Oxem maka dislem ki hanv eka cinemachea hallant assam kosso. Kitem acting, kitem stage setting, ? Amche tiatrani ube ravon ami sodanc kiteac ulloitam? sofa assat punn tacher bosson ulloilele hanven kednanch polloun nam. Latest technology uzar korpak maka dista amche lagim zaumche nam. Mog assundi Albert De Souza _ 2000 Placements last year. Are You next ? Find out http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=499
[Goanet] saving Goa.
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I forgot that I needed to provide you with an
education as we go:-)) The last time I checked
Kashmir was not an Indian state yet. It is still a
disputed territory administered by three different
governments, Pakistan, India and China.
RESPONSE: Kashmir was not an Indian state yet?? Hmmm.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/in.html
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir
Is this another act of Pulling the wool over our eyes?
[Goanet] LIMERICK OF THE DAY 100 - A CENTURY OF LIMERICKS
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- A CENTURY OF LIMERICKS With one hundred limericks under my belt, A quiet satisfaction have I subconsciously felt. But it is not yet time to take a rest, But to relentlessly pursue this quest, Until a body blow to some injustices has been dealt. I know very well indeed that words alone In history, have seldom been known To achieve, by themselves, what action can, But there is much to be said about an ideas man Who, in the past, has the path to action shown. No man, they say, is a prophet in his own land - That is a perspective that helps to understand Why Goa, with its wealth of talent and brains, Even today has failed to break the chains Of its backwardness, or its horizon expand. Yet one has in life to make use of one's skill So that one can one's dharma somehow fulfill. It may not ultimately amount to much, And even be at most a simple crutch - But finally one stops only when over the hill. -- --- Shanti Dhoot
Re: [Goanet] saving Goa.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- In response to this question from : jane gillian rodrigues ...but you have not let me know about whether you a Goan, can buy land in Kashmir. The usually dis-informed Mario responded thus: I forgot that I needed to provide you with an education as we go:-)) The last time I checked Kashmir was not an Indian state yet. jc's advice: He who does not know MUST check http://goidirectory.nic.in/stateut.htm He who does not know should NOT offer to teach another. He who does not know MAY invent facts. He who cannot answer - may try to OBFUSCATE He who does not know but tries to teach others - is usually considered to be a foolishly unwise person BTW Gillian: A Goa is NOT allowed to purchase property in Kashmir. Please vide Art 370 of Indian Constitution. It bars a non-Kashmiri from buying land in the State just my view jc
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (16May08)
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At the KONKAN FRUIT FEST, Campal
A Cashew to a Mango:
You may be loved as the King of Fruits
But my Feni seduces Princes to Paupers
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[Goanet] Goa news for May 16, 2008
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** IPL stars could go home - Radio Australia [12 hours ago] Warne, fellow Australian Shane Watson and South African captain Graeme Smith were among members of the Rajasthan Royals team on a short break in Goa when ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/200805/s2246275.htm?tab=sportcid=1212486931ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzfjeMFE3myL9VDBYKuyWvppdafAww *** Mine in Goa forest defies law; SC orders probe - CNN-IBN BN, India - 8 hours agoCollem Mines (South Goa): A multicrore mining industry is operating out of Goa's forest land, inspite of several notices from the Government to stop all ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ibnlive.com/news/mine-in-goa-forest-defies-law-sc-orders-probe/65343-3.htmlcid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzeaKK1oRquf3m38FHVPluWSQyma2g *** Vedanta FY profits drop on Sesa Goa buy - Metalbulletin.com (subscription) [8 hours ago] Vedanta Resources net profit dropped almost 6% for the financial year ended 31 March 2008 following the acquisition of Sesa Goa a year ago. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.metalbulletin.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=1932263Category=Ironcid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzdvjoA8-t9nLI8MyaYmXxEYaYy1Zg *** Accrington woman raises money for Goa street kids - This Is Lancashire [10 hours ago] Val Lowe, 58, of Accrington, travels to Goa twice a year with six or seven suitcases filled with items for the children, after being insired to help them ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2273646.0.accrington_woman_raises_money_for_goa_street_kids.phpcid=1213047704ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzfzQIXk4CgBkk9RPO-XA2_T48iG6w *** No place in Goa to treat rabies patients - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] As it was the only hospital built for the purpose, it used to cater to the needs of the whole of Goas rabies-infected people. Ponda being centrally located ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=05166cid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzcpsvLw8kwnZbDrM6wGxFW9Q49DLw *** Goa getting ready for national football battle - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] Goa, who last won the Santosh in 2005 were coached by Mauricio and the affable coach said if the team passes the first hurdle then the prospects of title ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=051629cid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzdqADfIdGOBjSr3QSjA-gCWtqgzHQ *** Odxel SC smash Goa Police - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] PANAJI: Odxel SC Taleigao beat Goa Police 25-18, 25-17, 23-25, 22-25, 15-6 in the fin als of all-Goa volleyball chamnpionship at Arambol. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=051622cid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzfoY2WarlheJ8YuN4uXbrX0hv4FcA *** Goa not yet vigilant about dam at Virdi - Times of India [23 hours ago] PANAJI: In a new twist to the controversy over the construction of the Virdi dam along Goa's border, the Maharashtra government has shifted the site of the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_not_yet_vigilant_about_dam_at_Virdi/articleshow/3041138.cmscid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEze7c-t6F2ty4pu2-1yLEPyH1KWWjg *** Agra, Goa, Darjeeling next - Hindustan Times [2 hours ago] While the focus of the operation is likely to be on north Bengal, north Bihar and eastern Uttar Pradesh, intelligence inputs point to Agra, Goa and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=9cc46705-9eca-4849-a34c-c72eee9681b7_Specialcid=0ei=escsSI7OHJGiqwOX17HaCwusg=AFrqEzftyMa3imKarzJmgBND8GApmnoBvQ *** Centre, Goa await high court ruling to clear air on SEZs - Economic Times [3 hours ago] NEW DELHI: It may soon be curtains for all special economic zones (SEZs) planned to be set up in Goa, butthe three notified SEZs in the state may have ...
[Goanet] God or no God
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- With this ongoing debate about the cardinal and what he said and his interpretation of God, this whole issue is kind of amusing. One just has to take a look around to see how much of a role God plays in out lives. The Jaipur blasts, the China quake, the Myanmar cyclone - As George Carlin rightly says If there is a God, IF there is one, He just doesnt give a sh**. And as the genius Betrand Russel once remarked, If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time. Watch more of Carlin and his humorous but profound thoughts here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9ofeature=related
[Goanet] What Goamusician is talking about...
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goamusician/ Royalty free music http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_free_music Check http://in.dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Music/Instruments Media Transasia launches music mag Blender Check it out... FN -- Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Simon Dsilva President Goan Welfare Association Qatar do you wish to be in the shoes of K.P.S Gill, sacked President of the Indian Hockey Federation?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- In April, Qatar Goan community members posted disgruntled emails with regard to the award given to Simon Dsilva (President Goan Welfare Association, Qatar) by the NRI Commissioner. Also letters were written to the Editor on local newspaper Gulf Times. One of the writer questioned Simon Dsilva of his illegitimate running of the association and reasons for bringing bollywood stars and overseas judges (for May Ball 8th May 2008) and for not disclosing their names. Report on Gulf Times 13th May 2008 titled Keralite Girl is May Queen, stated that the judges were Sarita Barretto, Agnello Fernandes - president Navelim Youth Centre Kuwait and Gabriel Crasto, Chairman of Bahrain Goans Football League. The association also felicitated Francisco Correia, Carmo Santos, Gabriel Crasto, Celso Fernandes and Simon Dsilva recipients of the Community Service Leadership awards of the Goa government. A token of appreciation was presented to Basil Coutinho, a senior member of the association who flew in from Goa to attend the show. Simon Dsilva did not disclose the judges names before the show. The Cat is out of the Hat. One of the judge Gabriel Crasto, from Bahrain, is another recipient of the award in Goa!! Basil Coutinho, retired banker, based in Goa is the associations past president and was and is still instrumental to bring it to its present high. He gives his full support and returns to Qatar every year to secure sponsorship for the May Ball. It is surprising why Simon Dsilva did not recommended Basil Coutinho (his mentor ) name for the Goan award? Basil Coutinho deserves the award. The Goan Welfare Association has only 10 members (all are Simon Dsilvas puppets) and general body meeting/elections are not held for 8 years. Is it acceptable to the World Wide Goan Community? Is it acceptable to Simon Dsilvas gulf counterparts - Agnello Fernandes president Navelim Youth Centre Kuwait, Gabriel Crasto, Chairman of Bahrain Goans Football League, Francisco Correia and Gerard Fernandes - Young Goan Club Bahrain, Carmo Santos - Chairmain Goan Cultural Centre Kuwait, Celso Fernandes - VP Goan Community Oman, Bartholomeo Silveira, Abu Dhabi ? Gulf delegates / couterparts / award recipients abovenamed who attended the May Ball - do you run your clubs like Simon Dsilva with 10 members only? Are your clubs not open to the Community? Are you not responsible for your actions/decisions? Are you not answerable/accountable to the Community? Are you not transparent? Regardless of the resentfulness of the Community, Simon Dsilva had the impudence to invite the other award recipients from Gulf States and felicitate them, and himself, at the May Ball. If Simon Dsilva is so confident then he should open the membership to the Qatar Goan Community and hold elections. If Simon Dsilva does not open membership and conduct elections then Indian Cultural Centre, Indian Embassy and NRI Commissioner should intervene and sack Simon Dsilva for his despotic attitude and take control of the association and openly invite the community and conduct elections in its interest and welfare. Simon Dsilva do you wish to be in the shoes of K.P.S Gill, the recently sacked President of the Indian Hockey Federation. Allister Pereira Qatar SHOW REVIEW: Gone from Best to Good, and Going from Good to Bad Imagine the Gulf Times report titled Keralite girl is May Queen It is in bad taste. How has the association benefited by bringing the four bollywood (tv) stars? Expenses to association: US$20,000.00. What did the stars do? Arrived late, did Nothing. Who decides to bring stars - only Simon Dsilva and his 10 puppets support it. How many Goans attended the show: 20%, approx 90 out of 450 crowd. Goans preventing and no more patronize the show. (In the past it attracted up to 1000 people with 90% Goans) How has the association benefited by hosting the judges, gulf delegates? Expenses to association : US$10,000.00. Why did they come? Only Simon Dsilva knows, could be to give give solidarity to Simon Dsilva. No reasons for further felicitating gulf delegates at May Ball. Time lost by people for this function. Show started: 11 pm, only after arrival of the tv stars. Show could start: 9 pm with 200 people (200 people lost 2 hours, loss of 400 hours). No respect for Time. Wait wait and wait until stars come.
[Goanet] M.F. Hussain- Delhi High Court Observations
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dear Sachin It's great to hear from you on this. I have read a few of your posts earlier on Goanet and while I may or may not agree with you, I really do appreciate your dignified style of writing and deliberating. You would perhaps be surprised to know that the so-called paintings of nude Gods and Goddesses which have been in the eye of the storm for some time now were not drawn by Hussain in the recent past but were drawn several decades ago. The same paintings were displayed in several exhibitions across the Country then and none of them drew the kind of violent responses that we seem to be seeing now. Incidentally, the titles of the paintings which one sees on the Sanatan website and on the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti pamphlets are not the original Hussain captions. These titles were in fact picked up by these two organizations from the book Anti- Hindus authored by Hindu writer Praful Goradia. The original captions were deliberately altered with the sole intention of misleading people and fanning their emotions and sentiments. The whole controversy began in the early 80s when the Sangh Parivar launched their Hindutva movement. The Muslim Hussain thus became the perfect pawn in the game of Hindutva, i.e. a larger game of mobilizing Hindu support to seize power. It is indeed sad that they chose a figure who had been more influenced by Hinduism and its culture than Islam and who had drawn more than 150 canvasses on Ramayan at a time when he was virtually broke, an entire series on the Mahabharat, hundreds of forms of Ganeshas and several other paintings celebrating the Hindu spirit of life. The entire smear campaign against Hussain is based on untruths. For instance, way back in 1976, Hussain drew a few abstract stylized outline sketches of Goddess Saraswati for the O.P. Jindal industrial family. Likewise, another painting titled Sita Rescued was drawn by Hussain in the 70s for Ram Manohar Lohia. Neither of these paintings had distinguishing nude features of any kind, they were abstract representations much in synchrony with the age-old Hindu traditions, certainly by no means obscene or vulgar. However, in a text-book case of the blind men describing the elephant, radical and orthodox Hindu groups chose to see them differently. A sensual Saraswati playing the Veena thus became the Nude Saraswati. A stylized sketch of Goddess Durga sitting on a Tiger was also falsely portrayed by these orthodox groups as Goddess Durga having sexual relations with a tiger. Truly, the High Court was perfectly right in observing that Obscenity was indeed in the eyes of the beholder. Ditto with Perversion. I had the opportunity to interact with a few Hindu artists during an art competition that we had organized during the occasion of Shivaji Jayanti. These artists mentioned to me that several Hindu artists were even more liberal when it came to representing Hindu deities and that Hussain was unfortunately being singled out because he was a Muslim. They too observed that there was absolutely nothing wrong in the paintings and that this was nothing but a political issue. I agree with you that Hussain has not drawn nude paintings on Islamic culture and to answer that I will direct you to what Shashi Tharoor wrote in Times of India: The question of why Hussein doesn't paint Muslim figures in the nude is a red herring. The Islamic tradition is a different one from either the Hindu or the Western; what causes offence in one is different from what causes offence in another. Islam, after all, prohibits any visual depiction of the Prophet, whereas visualizing our gods and goddesses is central to the practice of Hinduism. When the whole controversy broke out, Hussain made it clear that these paintings were drawn with intense love and admiration and that not a single drop in it was drawn out of hate. He also said that if in the process of doing so he had hurt Hindu sentiments, he was willingly apologizing for the same because humanity to him was more important than his paintings. But these groups and their supporters were just not willing to listen. Hussain had committed blasphemy and they wanted nothing but his head. The Hindu Personal Law Board did just that by offering a Rs 51 crore reward for eliminating this icon. Several cases were lodged against him by misguided Hindus and he was virtually hounded out of the Country, forced to live a life in Exile. Please do not get carried away by these self-proclaimed moral custodians
Re: [Goanet] Why activists dont fight elections?
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Samir, are you sure the problem is with the people who contest, or with
the system itself? A system made to suit the growth of 17th century
British mercantile capitalism. One in which the puppeteers (and
'permanent government' ... lobbies of all kinds) plays the kingmaker's
role, while the fronts such as politicians are solely held responsible.
One in which those with deep pockets never lose a single election, but
can, in fact, control the result in every single one, regardless of who
'wins' or 'loses'. And Floriano wonders why he why he can't get the
numbers. Blaming the voters for being shameless or whatever (as my
colleague Ethel did on 'We The People') isn't placing the blame where it
should go. FN
Samir Kelekar wrote:
This is interesting. Just before these elections, I
was one of the few who was shouting hoarse that GBA
should
fight elections. I was ridiculed by many activists.
I remember Miguel Braganza telling me to stand for
elections and that I will not get any votes. Fair
enough.
We elect our representatives through elections. Once
we elect them, they do what they please for five
years.
Wasnt this mayhem then not anticipated ?
Perhaps next time, the activities will get together
and fight elections. Preparations for that should
start now itself, really.
regards,
Samir
[Goanet] Goa Meu Amor...
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[Goanet] Building A Better Goa symposium, May 24
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Goa Sudharop and The Council for Social Justice and Peace, Goa, cordially invite you to a Symposium Building A Better Goa on Saturday, May 24th, 2008, from 4.00pm to 6.30pm in the Conference Hall of Caritas Holiday Complex, St. Inez (Near Caculo Circle), Panjim, Goa 403001. There is no cost to attend, the event is open to the public. Topics: 1. Panchayati Raj and the role of Gram Sabhas by Mr. Soter D'Souza 2. Winds of chance across Goa's villages by Mrs. Patricia Pinto 3. The Right of Information Act and PILs by Mr. Rajan Parrikar 4. Mobilizing People's Power by Mr. Pravin Sabnis Symposium moderator: Mr. Averthanus L. D'Souza. Kindly attend and show solidarity with this noble cause of Goans trying to build a better Goa and fighting current land abuses in Goa (a grave law and order situation). Please inform your contacts as well. Free tea and snacks will be served before the start. Thanks and regards, Ibonio M.B.D'Souza Goa Representative of Goa Sudharop (Cell: 9850454371) www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] Mine in Goa forest defies law; SC orders probe
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[Goanet] Konkan Fruit Fest begins today ....and continues till Sunday; 10 A.M. to 8 P.M.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Dears, Listen to FM Radio Mirchi announcing the 5th KONKAN FRUIT FEST this morning. Read about it in the GOA TIMES, the GT Times, the Dainik Gomantak, TNT, Herald and almost every other paper distributed in Goa these days. The KFF is being held on a shoe-string budget ...with the support of the people with big hearts and generous minds. The inuaguration of the 5th Konkan Fruit Fest is at 10.30 A.M. on Friday 16 May, 2008, at the hands of the Director of Agriculture, Mr. Satish S. Tendulkar. There will be competition in fruit based dishes, confectionary, jams, juices,wines and other products to be delivered by 3.00 P.M. on Friday, 16 May, 2008, to be judged by Mr. Sanjeev Kadkade, Head of Department at IHMCT AN [GoI Dept of Tourism], Porvorim-Goa, and his team on the same day. [Contact Annand Jadhav 9423883578 for details] Fruit eating competition on Saturday at 4 P.M. [Mango, papaya, banana, watermelon]. winner to be judged by weight of pulp consumed. Some competitors also eat the peel/skin. On-the-spot competition with on-the-spot prizes. Other Prizes will be distributed at the hands of Dr.V.S. Korikanthimath, Director of ICAR on Sunday, 18 May, 2008 at 5.00 P.M. EVERYONE IS INVITED. THIS IS A PUBLIC EVENT BY THE PEOPLE OF THE KONKAN There are special trips to Ela Farms [SAMETI and ICAR] , Old Goa. Each trip is for a duration of 1 hour and 30 minutes to 2 hours] 16 May, 2008 .. 11.30 A.M. and 3.30 P.M. 17 May, 2008 .. 10.30 A.M. and 3.30 P.M 18 May, 2008 .. 10.30 A.M. and 3.30 P.M The farms are specially kept open for you to see: 1.Resurrection of Extinct mango varieties of Goa. [Colace, Bhisma,Fernandin,Furtado are extinct according to Raju Nayak in Times of India 09 May, 2008 page 2] 2. Celebrating the popular varieties of mango in Goa [Malcurada or Mankurad, Malgueso, Manga Hilario, Xavier, Fernandina, Salcet Monserrate or Mussorat, and Ratnagiri Alphonso according to Nicole Suares quoting me correctly in Times of India's Goa Times page 3 on 08 May, 2008] 3. Rare varieties of mango in Goa like Costa, Rebello, Ananas, Koita,Bol, Jesuit, Pereira and the PUSA hybrids of Neelam [N] and Dussheri [D] varieties Mallika [N x D] and Amrapalli [D x N] [Dr. S.P. Singh will be your guide on the ICAR-Goa mango blocks I II Ela Farm, courtesy Raju Nayak's article] 4. Mango Progency Orchard 5.Biological control of insect pests and diseases, pheromone traps, etc. 6.Bee-boxes for better fruitset in mango 7. Guava, Chickoo and Banana plantations 8. Grafting techniques demonstration and nursery practices [This is a Amancio Fernandes initiative at SAMETI / Farmers' Training Centre] You can see two extinct varieties [Fernandina and Furtado] at Panaji itself. There are Nicolau Afonso, Sakri, Costa, Bernardo, Monserrate and other varieties here besides Jackfruit, Pineapple, Banana, Bhirand, Velvet Apple, Muskmelon, Guava, Mangosteen [related to Bhirand or Kojum, not to mango or mangroves] Papaya, etc. More entries will arrive early in the morning for the competition. Besides this, there are all the mango varieties of ICAR-Goa and Directorate of Agriculture-Goa farms and contact farmers. Mango and other fruits of Regional Fruit Research Station [Vengurla]of BS Sawant Konkan Krishi Vidyapeet have arrived in Goa by 8 P.M. and while those from University of Agricultural Sciences-Dharwad were expected later last evening For visuals of the event check out the Internet and websites: flickr.com for photos by Frederick Noronha and Joel D'Souza Youtube for interviews by Frederick Noronha www.goa-world.com for photos 2003 to 2006 and history The KFF is facilitated by the BOTANICAL SOCIETY OF GOA since 2003. The idea was from Mr. Ashok Mogu Naik of Panjim Municipal Council. The scope was enlarged at the behest of Dr. Ajit Shirodkar, Chairman of WGKF. Universities in Karnataka were asociated through the good offices of Dr. V.S. Korikanthimath, Director of ICAR-Goa. The prizes were sponsorred by the Directorate of Agriculture , with Mr. W.M. Khade at the helm. He also ensured whole hearted participation of the Department and local farmers. The residents of Campal [Patricia Pinto, Damas Rebelo, Deric Rebelo, kemal Barros, Maria Beatriz Costa and others] supported it wholeheartedly,specially when hosted near Dr.Francisco Luis Gomes Garden in 2003 and 2004.
[Goanet] saving Goa.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- 5th Annual Konkan Fruit Fest Promenade, D B Bandodkar Road, Panaji, Goa 16-18, May 2008 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-May/073789.html --- Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:26:37 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] RESPONSE: Kashmir was not an Indian state yet?? Hmmm. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/in.html http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_territories_of_India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir Is this another act of Pulling the wool over our eyes? Mario responds: The re-education continues and the class seems to have grown:-)). While I could have been more clear in my previous comments, Bosco is apparently unfamiliar with the nuances of Kashmir within the context of India and the discussion that was taking place. The discussion was about whether a Goan can buy property in Kashmir like non-Goan Indians can buy property in Goa. I wonder why Bosco left out my next sentence, It is still a disputed territory administered by three different governments, Pakistan, India and China. In fact Jammu Kashmir is autonomous under Article 370 of the Indian Constitution. Thus the region does not function like other Indian states including Goa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir#Post-1947_developments.2C_including_ratification_of_accession Excerpts: The region is divided among three countries in a territorial dispute: Though these regions are in practice administered by their respective claimants, neither India nor Pakistan has formally recognised the accession of the areas claimed by each other. [end of excerpt] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir#Politics_and_government Excerpt: The Constitution of India grants Jammu and Kashmir special autonomous status as a temporary provision through Article 370. However, some Muslim Kashmiris demand greater autonomy and sovereignty and some even demand independence from India, while some non-Muslims would like to see the state fully integrated into India.
[Goanet] education in goa
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Dear Sir,
As per Frederick's e-mail below - We on Goanet would like to know what
action the Catholic clergy of Goa, as well as Goa govtmt has taken,
regarding schools who purposely fail students in large numbers, in 9th std,
and 11th std, so that the schools can achieve, proudly and shamelessly their
claim of 100% pass in 10th std. and 12th std.
Failure of students in 9th and 11th std means that the school has not
employed teachers, who themseves are 1st class graduates in their chosen
subject of teaching. In fact, schools and colleges who fail students should
be charged with a hefty fine and reasons should be given in writing as to
why these children have failed.
We are all aware, that failing school and college students, leads to
suicide, criminal behaviour etc. of goan youth.
Regards,
But that was obtained by slaughtering all but 25 pupils the previous
year.
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hundred percent results
Do some institutions attain 100% by keeping out 'weak' students from their
portals? The real challenge would be to include those who are considered
potential 'drop outs' and create options for them (in whatever field).
[Goanet] NHRC directive to DGP Goa - Police brutalities on youth
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The National Human Rights Commission, New Delhi (Law Division) has in a
letter dated 29th April, / 6th May, 2008, directed the Director General of
Police, Govt. of Goa Panaji, Goa to take action as is deemed appropriate
and dispose off the complaint pertaining to Mr. Antanasio (Babush)
Monseratte, MLA and others in Case No: 4/5/1/08-09/OC
It may be noted that following the merciless and brutal assault on the son
of MLA Mr. Antanasio Monseratte and others at his residence and elsewhere
by the Goa Police , on 19th February, 2008, this writer, pained by the
brutality had filed a complaint before the The National Human Rights
Commission, New Delhi directing the members of the Commission, to a)
take cognizance of the assault on innocents as reported in the local dailies
of the State and b) to constitute a branch of the Commission in the
State, to put in check, such highhandedness of the law enforcing
authorities.
While the undersigned expresses gratitude to the members of the Commission
who on 25th April, 2008 perused the complaint and directed necessary action;
it is hoped that the Director General of Police Shri. Brijendra Singh Brar
(IPS) will examine the incident in its proper perspective and ensure that
such atrocities on human beings are not resorted to under the garb of
enforcing law and order in a civilized society.
It is also hoped that the NHRC will constitute a Bench in Goa to rid the
state of such human rights violations which are mounting with politicization
of the police force in since the beginning of this century.
REPRODUCED BELOW IS THE LETTER
On Fri, 22/2/08, godfrey gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: Subject: POLICE BRUTALITIES TERRORISE INNOCENT YOUTH
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, 22 February, 2008, 9:42 PM
MOST URGENT
To,
Chief Executive Officers of the Commission
a) Shri Ravi Kamal Bhargav Secretary General b) Shri Damodar Sarangi
Director General (Investigation) c) Shri A.K. Garg Acting Registrar (Law)
and other Honble Members of the National Human Rights Commission,viz;
Hon'ble Justice Shri S. Rajendra Babu Chairperson Hon'ble Dr. Justice
Shivaraj V.Patil Member Hon'ble Shri Justice Y. Bhaskar Rao Member, Shri
R.S. Kalha Member Shri P.C.Sharma Member Chairperson, National Commission
for Minorities Ex-officio Member
Chairperson, National Commission for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes
Ex-officio Member Chairperson, National Commission for Women Ex-officio
Member
National Human Rights Commission Faridkot House, Copernicus Marg, New
Delhi - 110 001.Facilitation Centre (Madad): (011) 23385368 Mobile
No.9810298900 (For complaints-24 hrs.) Fax: (011) 23386521
(complaints)/23384863 (Administration)/ 23382734(Investigation)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (General)/[EMAIL PROTECTED](For complaints)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ResearchDivision) Web site: www.nhrc.nic.in
Respected Sirs,
A brutal assault by policemen attached to the capital city Panaji Police
Station, on two innocent youths both teenagers from Taleigao one a son (who
has a grave ailment and is under specialized medical attention for a
physical ailment) of a local politician a sitting MLA, supporting the
ruling Indian National Congress-Nationalist Congress Party coalition in Goa
Legislative Assembly on the night of 19th February, 2008 has traumatised
the righteous and peace loving citizens Goans.
The condemnation of this brutality is moreso, because the police force in
utter disregard to decorum or restraint expected of a law enforcing
personnel,allegedly made a forceful entry of the residence of the MLA at
Taleigao and having smashed everything on their path to smithern in futile
search of the MLA picked up his son and another who were in the house
pushed them mercilessly into a waiting police van and after brutal assault
took them to the police station only to be joined there by their parents and
several others there.
What Goans are agitated is that ---while they express reservation on the
merits and demerits of the arrests involving the MLA and his spouse who
were also detained by the police for squirmishes outside the Police station
and subsequently released on bail, they condemn the brutal assault on the
innocent youth and have reason to believe that the police bestiality
deserves not only exemplary punishment but need to be weeded out of the
