Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

2009-09-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Isabel Joanes wrote:
 Re. The Anti-Quackery campaign:
 1. Who won the annual Goenchem Prize advertised below, for 2009?
 2. Can we have the list of award-winners 2003-2008?
 3. If not, is this Prize then, items 2. and 12. below?
 4. Where is the money?
 5. Why was the 2009 Goenchem Prize not awarded on 09.09.09?




Isabel,
Above all, I love your silly question number five.
As you are aware, it holds the answer to questions two, and both parts of 
question three.
The answer, of course, being nien, nien, nien.


The second thing that I find intriguing is your worry of, Where is the money?
As all prize winners know, the real reward is the recognition, of 
the PREVIOUS efforts 
made by the prize winner. The prize money is only an after thought. Both to the 
winner
and the awarding committee. Your concentration on, Where is the money? tells 
us a 
lot about yourself.


However, to answer your question, part of the money is in my bank account. Or 
should I
say, it is still in my bank account. I had promised those concerned with this 
award that I 
would donate some of the prize money. I was later told that there wasn't a 
worthy winner 
for the prize that year. 


The last comment I will make is that since you have spent all a lot of  your 
valuable time in 
your quest to get to the bottom of quackery, having gone thru six years of 
Goanet
archives to come up with an 2003 post, I am sure we will hear a lot more from 
you. 
On, yes, quacks. 


 Mervyn D'thru Lobo
PS. I did a google on you name and could not find a single post with the name, 
Isabel Joanes, 
signed on it. Not one.


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Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

2009-09-12 Thread Santosh Helekar

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--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:
 
 Even quacks, it would seem, are in distinguished company!
 FN
 

This is silly. Perhaps, Noronha does not know that the founders of Scientology, 
Naturopathy and Homeopathy are still regarded as quacks, because none of what 
they claimed has been substantiated by scientific evidence. Their bogus 
teachings are respected only by a small cult of believers in each case. Science 
has relegated them to the dustbin of history. Even the nonsense that the 
genuine scientist Linus Pauling claimed in his later life has never been able 
distinguish itself from quackery.

Cheers,

Santosh

 Notable historical persons accused of quackery
 
     * Thomas Allinson (1858–1918), founder of
 naturopathy. His views
 often brought him into conflict with the Royal College of
 Physicians
 of Edinburgh and the General Medical Council, particularly
 his
 opposition to doctors' frequent use of toxic drugs, his
 opposition to
 vaccination and his self promotion in the press.[20] His
 views and
 publication of them led to him being labeled a quack and
 being struck
 off by the General Medical Council for infamous conduct in
 a
 professional respect.[21][22]
 
     * Samuel Hahnemann (1755–1843), founder of
 homeopathy. Hahnemann
 believed that all diseases were caused by miasms, which
 he defined
 as irregularities in the patient's vital force.[23] He also
 said that
 illnesses could be treated by substances that in a healthy
 person
 produced similar symptoms to the illness, in extremely low
 concentrations, with the therapeutic effect increasing with
 dilution
 and repeated shaking.[24][25][26]
 
     * L. Ron Hubbard (1911–1986) was the
 founder of the Church of
 Scientology. He was an American science fiction writer,
 former United
 States Navy officer, and creator of Dianetics.[27][28][29]
 


  


Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

2009-09-12 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या

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My reference was to Louis Pasteur and Lovisa Årberg  (the first
Swedish female doctor. Årberg was met with strong resistance from male
doctors and was accused of quackery) finding themselves on the list
of quacks! FN

2009/9/12 Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com:

 --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org wrote:

 Even quacks, it would seem, are in distinguished company!
 FN


 This is silly. Perhaps, Noronha does not know that the founders of 
 Scientology, Naturopathy and Homeopathy are still regarded as quacks, because 
 none of what they claimed has been substantiated by scientific evidence. 
 Their bogus teachings are respected only by a small cult of believers in each 
 case. Science has relegated them to the dustbin of history. Even the nonsense 
 that the genuine scientist Linus Pauling claimed in his later life has never 
 been able distinguish itself from quackery.
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Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

2009-09-12 Thread Isabel Joanes

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Re. The Anti-Quackery campaign:

1. Who won the annual Goenchem Prize advertised below, for 2009?
2. Can we have the list of award-winners 2003-2008?
3. If not, is this Prize then, items 2. and 12. below?
4. Where is the money?
5. Why was the 2009 Goenchem Prize not awarded on 09.09.09?


-Original Message-
Santosh Helekar Sent: 01 July 2003 01:51, To:
goanet-fpo8gb98ccidnm+yrof...@
Subject: [Goanet] Nomination of Candidates for Goenchem Prize

OPEN INVITATION FOR NOMINATION OF CANDIDATES for THE GOENCHEM PRIZE
FOR THE PROMOTION OF HONESTY, RATIONALITY AND COMMON SENSE

A committee of cyber-Goans invites members of the public to nominate
candidates for an annual prize called the Goenchem Prize, established
to promote the cause of honesty, rationality, common sense in public
service, public policy,public education,public safety, public health.

The nominee should be an individual or a group of individuals who are
Goan by birth, ancestry,marriage or residence. This prize is intended
to educate the public about harms done by the following practices and
concerns in today's society:

1. Corruption
2. Financial scams
3. Superstition
4. New age cults
5. New age fads
6. Pseudoscience
7. Quackery
8. Bogus issues in environmental activism
9. Politically motivated historical revisionism
10. Infusion of religion into public policy and education
11. Mass hysteria caused by paranormal phenomena
12. Public deception and disinformation campaigns
13. Unchecked influence of poseurs and frauds

The winner will be chosen from nominees who have addressed the above
issues by taking actions such as:

1. Publicly exposing a cult, superstition, fad, practice or attitude
that continues to cause significant harm in terms of physical,
psychological/socioeconomic pain and suffering within the community.

2. Becoming a whistleblower to uncover corrupt practices in any
governmental, statutory, autonomous or non-governmental organization
supported by public/government funds.

3. Making a significant contribution to educating the public about
false claims regarding cures for diseases, bogus health scares, fake
environmental threats, phony new age fads, paranormal hysteria and
pseudoscientific breakthroughs.

4. Offering a public refutation of politically motivated historical
revisionism and infusion of religion into public policy and education.

5. Publicly unmasking a quack, poseur, corrupt professional or
organization that is perpetrating a financial or health scam.

6. Presenting in a public forum in Goa an exposé on a public scam,
racket, fraud, deception or disinformation campaign.

Potential contenders for the prize will be entered into the selection
process each year by nomination. The nominating letter should be
submitted by the nominee herself/himself or any other person by email
to gpcommittee-owner-hhksg33tihhbjbujkae...@xxx It should
include a brief description of the specific accomplishment for which
the nominee is deemed to be worthy of the prize. The final deadline
for submission of nominations this year is the inauspicious fifth
Tuesday in July i.e. the 28th of July, 2003.

The Goenchem Prize committee of cyber-Goans will vote to choose the
prizewinner. The prize will consist of a citation plaque and Rs. 13,666
(Thirteen thousand six hundred and sixty six rupees). This prize amount
donated by three anonymous Goans, is chosen because it contains unlucky
numbers 13 and 36, and the number of the beast 666. The winner will be
announced in Goan newspapers and Goan mailing lists, and the prize will
be presented in Goa at an inauspicious time on World Goa Day in August.

Sincerely,


Rene Barreto, U.K.
Dr. Jose Colaco, Bahamas
Marina Correia-Afonso, Goa, India
Vivian D'Souza, Goa, India and U.S.A.
Valmiki Faleiro, Goa, India
Dr. Santosh A. Helekar, U.S.A.
Dr. Samir Kelekar, Bangalore, India
Margaret Mascarenhas, Goa, India
Dr. Basilio Monteiro, U.S.A.
Niraj Naik, Goa, India
Cecil Pinto, Goa, India
Tariq Siddiqui, U.S.A.
Ramrao Wagh, Goa, India
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:36:04 +0530
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *  
To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!

Subject: Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

My reference was to Louis Pasteur and Lovisa ?rberg (the first
Swedish female doctor. ?rberg was met with strong resistance from male
doctors and was accused of quackery) finding themselves on the list
of quacks! FN

2009/9/12 Santosh Helekar :

 --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Frederick Noronha

Re: [Goanet] Quacks... and quackery!

2009-09-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Isabel Joanes isaj...@rediffmail.com wrote:

 1. Who won the annual Goenchem Prize advertised below, for
 2009?


The Goenchem Prize has not been awarded for 2009.


 2. Can we have the list of award-winners 2003-2008?
 

There are only two award winners so far:

Roland Martins for 2003
Yagneshwar Nigalye for 2005

There is no requirement that it should be awarded every year. 

3. If not, is this Prize then, items 2. and 12. below?

Please explain what you mean. 


 4. Where is the money?


The money was donated by individual donors.


 5. Why was the 2009 Goenchem Prize not awarded on
 09.09.09?
 

Please explain what you mean. 

Cheers,

Santosh