[google-appengine] Re: Can't access my application

2009-03-22 Thread Pete Koomen
Hi all,

This is a known issue and we're looking into it now.  It appears to be
affecting some users accessing applications served off of custom dasher
domains:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=46346#403

We're working to lessen the impact that these problems can have on App
Engine applications, and to provide a CAPTCHA mechanism for users who see
this response.

Pete Koomen, App Engine Team

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:43 AM, B.J. bjp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Some of my users are reporting the same problem.  Anyone know what is
 going on?

 On Mar 22, 2:37 am, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can't do much more than try again another day...
 
  Good ol google;http://code.google.com/status/appengine
 
  On Mar 22, 3:18 am, baytiger troels...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Same problem for me, many of my users are complaining they see the
   same. It's been going on for more than 24 hours now.
 
   Google can you please fix this? There has been _a lot_ of outages the
   past month, it's not particularly credible for user-experience :(
 
   On 22 Mar., 07:56, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I fixed it temporarily by going to a neighbor's house for internet
connection... but it is working on my original connection again now?
 
I am confused what is the cause...
 
On Mar 22, 2:13 am, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where do I get my membership badge?
 
 I have the same webpage :(
 
 On Mar 22, 2:00 am, William searchmon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm also getting this message on my app now.  )-:
 
  On Mar 21, 5:14 am, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When I try to access my application I get the following
 message:
 
  We'resorry...
 
   ... but your query looks similar to automated requests from
 a
   computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users, we
 can't
   process your request right now.
 
   We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try
 again
   soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or
 network
   has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or
 spyware
   remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and
 other
   spurious software.
 
   If you're continually receiving this error, you may be able
 to
   resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and
 revisiting
   Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your
   browser's online support center.
 
   If your entire network is affected, more information is
 available
   in the Google Web Search Help Center.
 
   We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you
 again
   on Google.
 
   
 
   What is the cause and how can this be fixed?
 



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[google-appengine] Re: Can't access my application

2009-03-22 Thread Pete Koomen
Sorry:  this appears to be affecting some users accessing applications
served off of custom *Google Apps* domains:

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Pete Koomen pkoo...@google.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 This is a known issue and we're looking into it now.  It appears to be
 affecting some users accessing applications served off of custom dasher
 domains:

 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=46346#403

 We're working to lessen the impact that these problems can have on App
 Engine applications, and to provide a CAPTCHA mechanism for users who see
 this response.

 Pete Koomen, App Engine Team


 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:43 AM, B.J. bjp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Some of my users are reporting the same problem.  Anyone know what is
 going on?

 On Mar 22, 2:37 am, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can't do much more than try again another day...
 
  Good ol google;http://code.google.com/status/appengine
 
  On Mar 22, 3:18 am, baytiger troels...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Same problem for me, many of my users are complaining they see the
   same. It's been going on for more than 24 hours now.
 
   Google can you please fix this? There has been _a lot_ of outages the
   past month, it's not particularly credible for user-experience :(
 
   On 22 Mar., 07:56, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I fixed it temporarily by going to a neighbor's house for internet
connection... but it is working on my original connection again now?
 
I am confused what is the cause...
 
On Mar 22, 2:13 am, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where do I get my membership badge?
 
 I have the same webpage :(
 
 On Mar 22, 2:00 am, William searchmon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm also getting this message on my app now.  )-:
 
  On Mar 21, 5:14 am, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   When I try to access my application I get the following
 message:
 
  We'resorry...
 
   ... but your query looks similar to automated requests
 from a
   computer virus or spyware application. To protect our users,
 we can't
   process your request right now.
 
   We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try
 again
   soon. In the meantime, if you suspect that your computer or
 network
   has been infected, you might want to run a virus checker or
 spyware
   remover to make sure that your systems are free of viruses and
 other
   spurious software.
 
   If you're continually receiving this error, you may be
 able to
   resolve the problem by deleting your Google cookie and
 revisiting
   Google. For browser-specific instructions, please consult your
   browser's online support center.
 
   If your entire network is affected, more information is
 available
   in the Google Web Search Help Center.
 
   We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you
 again
   on Google.
 
   
 
   What is the cause and how can this be fixed?
 



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 Pete




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[google-appengine] Re: Latency Issue - More Feedback!

2009-03-04 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi Greg,

We're listening, and we feel your pain.  The App Engine team has been
working very hard to resolve this and we'll post updates as soon as we
have them.  I'll try to address what I can right now:

1. The latency issues are related to the planned maintenance on Monday
night.  They were unexpected, and we are working on infrastructure
improvements to ensure this won't happens again.  If you'd like more
data on serving and API latency and error rate, you can look at our
own live monitoring data here http://code.google.com/status/appengine

2) We expect a fix to be in place by EOD to fix the issues you are
currently seeing. We will keep you updated if this is not the case.
When these issues are fixed, you should only see a small difference
(possibly 10-20%) in the performance of your application as compared
to earlier this week. However, one way or the other, we will return
our previous configuration by Monday 3/9.

Thanks for your patience through this.

Pete, App Engine Team

On Mar 4, 12:18 pm, Greg g.fawc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please can we have more information about the current latency issue.
 Pointing us tohttp://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
 doesn't help when the last post there is two days old.

 Specifically:
 1. Cloudstatus.com shows very clearly that everything went to hell in
 handbasket after the upgrade earlier this week. Can Google confirm
 this is the cause of the latency?

 2. Is the scheduled maintenence next week likely to cure the problem
 (then please bring it forward) or make it worse (then please delay
 it)?

 I'm sure the lack of information is because the engineers who know
 what is happening are so busy trying to resolve the issue that they
 can't post. Or maybe they are all smoking joints while watching Lost,
 snickering about all the poor muppets out there struggling to find
 ways of streamlining their apps to make them work. Without feedback we
 don't know...

 This is severely denting our (paying) customers confidence in my app,
 and likewise our confidence in Appengine. We spent yesterday wringing
 the last ounce of performance out of our app, and if I don't hear any
 more, today (it's morning in New Zealand) will be spent investigating
 how big a deal it will be to migrate it to a dedicated mod_python/
 PostgreSQL system.

 Other appengine developers - please star this message so we get a
 response from Google.
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[google-appengine] Re: 502 Server Errors after upgrade?

2009-03-03 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi all,

Some apps are still seeing inreased latencies--we're working hard to
isolate this.  We'll keep you updated as we do.

Pete

On Mar 3, 11:22 am, Arun Shanker Prasad arunshankerpra...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi,

 My app still seems to be experiencing this problem.. I seem to get 502
 - Bad Gateway error at random, also the the serving of the app is very
 slow. Writes are the most expensive, timing out randomly..

 Thanks,
 Arun Shanker Prasad.

 On Mar 4, 12:18 am, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes I don't know why but today the main request is 1000 ms-cpu higher
  than yesterday.
  So the CPU Quota is higher than usual.

  Regards

  On 3 mar, 20:08, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:

   Ditto. Datastore performance is very bad too.

   On Mar 3, 2:04 pm, Brenton toonscr...@nvbell.net wrote:

It still feels down to me.  Our app keeps timing out.  Friends' apps
too.

208 - try again in 30 secs.  Same as last night.
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[google-appengine] Re: New Terms of Service :-(

2009-03-03 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi,

The sections that have changed in our new terms of service are Section
4 and Section 10.3.  We added some language around billing and
payments, and also a clause that prevents users from using multiple
cloned free applications to avoid usage charges that would have
otherwise been incurred by single app.

The admin console does not currently provide developers with a way to
delete applications.  You can effectively delete an app by deploying
an empty app using the same verison number that is currently live.
Deployment does not require acceptance of our terms.

Thanks,
Pete Koomen, App Engine Team

On Feb 28, 5:10 am, KillIEbrowser davide.rogn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Follow the steps:

 1. Sign-in: Google App Engine

 2. Appears: Accept New Terms of 
 Servicehttp://appengine.google.com/start/newtos

 3. Press: [Cancel]

 4. Redirect to:http://code.google.com/appengine/

 4. Now I can not delete my apps...

 On Feb 28, 1:56 pm, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Considering they are refering to Billing, which was only just
  introduced, its a fair bet that its new.

  What specificly do you object to in that quote?

  On 28/02/2009, KillIEbrowser davide.rogn...@gmail.com wrote:

For example, is this a new Term?

4.2. A bill will be issued to your online account for all charges
accrued in excess of the Fee Threshold.  For use of the Service in
excess of any portion of the Fee Threshold, you shall be responsible
for all charges up to the amount set in your online account, and shall
pay all charges in U.S. Dollars or in such other currency as agreed to
in writing by the parties.  Unless agreed to by the parties in
writing, you shall pay all charges in accordance with the payment
terms in the Service FAQ.  Late payments may bear interest at the rate
of 1.5% per month (or the highest rate permitted by law, if less).
Charges are exclusive of taxes. You are responsible for paying all
taxes and government charges, and all reasonable expenses and
attorneys fees Google incurs collecting late amounts. To the fullest
extent permitted by law, you waive all claims relating to charges
unless claimed within 60 days after the charge (this does not affect
your credit card issuer rights). Charges are solely based on Google's
measurements of your use of the Service, unless otherwise agreed to in
writing. To the fullest extent permitted by law, refunds (if any) are
at the discretion of Google and only in the form of credit for the
Service. Nothing in these Terms obligates Google to extend credit to
any party.  You acknowledge and agree that any credit card and related
billing and payment information that you provide to Google may be
shared by Google with companies who work on Google's behalf, such as
payment processors and/or credit agencies, solely for the purposes of
checking credit, effecting payment to Google and servicing your
account. Google may also provide information in response to valid
legal process, such as subpoenas, search warrants and court orders, or
to establish or exercise its legal rights or defend against legal
claims. Google shall not be liable for any use or disclosure of such
information by such third parties. Google reserves the right to
discontinue the provision of the Service to you for any late payments.

4.3. Google may change its fees and payment policies for the Service
with ninety (90) days prior notice. However, Google may change the Fee
Threshold limits at its discretion. Changes to the fees or payment
policies will be posted in the Service FAQ or at
http://code.google.com/appengine/terms.html(orsuch other URL Google
may provide from time to time). Any outstanding balance becomes
immediately due and payable upon termination of the Terms for any
reason.

On Feb 27, 8:40 pm, KillIEbrowser davide.rogn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why I must accept the New Terms of Service ?
 What is the delta? /\
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[google-appengine] Re: 502 Server Errors after upgrade?

2009-03-03 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi all, we'll continue posting updates about this issue to our status
site and downtime-notify group as we continue investigating:

http://code.google.com/status/appengine
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify

Thanks for your patience, we're still working hard on this one.

Pete

On Mar 3, 3:07 pm, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think my errors are gone now. Thank you Google!

 On Mar 3, 1:44 pm, Artem p.ar...@gmail.com wrote:

  I am still getting 502s in our App (which is an instance of Rietveld
  without any changes except securing it with a password).
  app id is: wsl-codereview

  We have changed nothing. Problems started last night, but now every
  request is a 502.

  Artem

  On Mar 3, 1:25 pm, Brett Slatkin brett-appeng...@google.com wrote:

   Hi Nick,

   On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Nick Winter livel...@gmail.com wrote:

   http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/serving/2009/03/03#ae-...

Just about every day for the past several weeks, there's been elevated
latency like this, usually at similar times of day. It was unfortunate
and frustrating before, but since last night our development is
stalled because every part of App Engine is too slow to do any testing
or data manipulation right now. 5 seconds per request?

I'm confident that the App Engine team will get a handle on the
performance and everything will be shiny once more, but it'd be nice
to hear some word as to what's going on. Are the servers just
overloaded? Did something go wrong with the maintenance last night? Is
anomaly-yellow serving to be expected?

   We had some unexpected issues during the maintenance last night which
   caused elevated latencies and errors for all applications. We resolved
   the issue around 8:45pm last night and things have returned to normal
   since. Please let me know if you're still seeing any problems.

   As for the elevated latency for the dynamic request metric (that you
   linked to), this is primarily a product of alert tolerances. We're
   still tuning our status site metrics to match real-world expectations
   of App Engine performance. You'll notice today that we've raised some
   of these tolerances by a little bit, causing many of the lines to go
   back to a blue color (i.e., everything OK).

   -Brett
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[google-appengine] Re: scheduled maintenance

2009-03-02 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi all,

Thanks very much for your posts--we're definitely reading.

Regarding the timing of our scheduled maintenance, we try our best to
pick times that will have the smallest effect on our developers.  This
isn't easy and, as you've pointed out, it's never going to work
seamlessly for everyone.

Regarding the existence of scheduled maintenance--we completely
agree.  We're working on eliminating the need for these and will keep
you posted on our progress.  For now, you can subscribe to our
downtime-notify group:

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify

and monitor our system status page:

http://code.google.com/status/appengine

for updates.

Thanks,
Pete Koomen, App Engine Team

On Mar 2, 8:11 pm, GregF g.fawc...@gmail.com wrote:
 My rant about the same thing here...

 http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/...
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[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi Matija,

The per-minute CPU limit is independent of the number of active
requests you can run.  Let's assume your requests were taking on
average 200ms of CPU time and completed in 200ms wall clock time, to
keep things simple.   There are at least three limits that come into
play here.  Looking at the free quotas (for apps that *do not* have
billing enabled):

Per-minute quota on CPU Time:  15min/min = 900,000ms/min = 4500 req/
min = 75 req/sec
Per-minute quota on HTTP Requests:  7400 req/min = ~123req/sec
30 active simultaneous requests:  (1000ms/sec  /  200ms/req) * 30 =
150req/sec

In this case, the per-minute CPU Time quota is the limiting factor.
If you were to halve the CPU  wall time of each requests, then the
per-minute HTTP Request quota would become the limiting factor.  Does
this make sense?

Keep in mind, the free quotas will be changing on May 25th, 2009.  See
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html#Free_Changes for
more details.

Pete


f each of your requests takes 200ms of CPU time on average, you'd have
enough CPU per minute to handle roughly 75 requests per second

On Feb 25, 4:17 am, Matija matija.jerko...@gmail.com wrote:
 How can '...An application operating entirely within the free quotas
 can process around 30 active dynamic requests at any given moment...'
 if maximum rate for CPU time within free default quota is 15 CPU-min/
 min ? Should you correct that statement to 15 active dynamic
 requests ?

 Pozdrav, MATijA.

 On Feb 24, 10:30 pm, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote:

  Hi all,

  We've just announced that it is now possible to purchase additional
  quota for your application. To borrow from our blog post,

  
  We're psyched to announce that developers can now purchase additional
  computing resources on App Engine, enabling apps to scale beyond our
  free quotas. This has been our most requested improvement to App
  Engine and we're thrilled to deliver it, as promised.

  You can now set a daily budget for your app that represents the
  maximum amount you're willing to pay for computing resources each day.
  You allocate this budget across CPU, bandwidth, storage, and email,
  and you pay for only what your app consumes beyond the free
  thresholds...
  

  More details are available at the following locations:

  Blog 
  post:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2009/02/new-grow-your-app-beyond-...

  Updated quota documentation 
  page:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html

  Documentation on purchasing additional 
  quota:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html

  Billing FAQs:http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html

  Questions? Comments? :-)

  Happy coding,

  Jeff
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[google-appengine] Re: Announcing: System Status Dashboard, Quota Details Page, and a Preview of Billing

2008-12-22 Thread Pete Koomen
Hi Thomas--this is correct.  The quotas not marked as adjustable will be
raised considerably when Billing is released.

Pete

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.comwrote:


 It's 1.3 million currently, meaning about 15.42 req/s for the *entire*
 day. It's been growing over time though. I believe the hard limit
 until very recently was 650.000.

 My guess is that the request limit and a lot of other quotas will get
 adjusted based on the payable ones. The request limit for example will
 probably rise with bandwidth allotment.

 On Dec 22, 4:34 pm, bFlood bflood...@gmail.com wrote:
  I noticed in the new quotas page that number of requests is not
  adjustable. so no matter what, if a site gets a spike in traffic that
  is larger then the default request limit, it will be shutdown? this
  seems odd to me, althought maybe I really need to examine how large
  the cap is first
 
  cheers
  brian
 
  On Dec 21, 2:10 pm, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   The docs are fine, I was referring to the billing of the other quotas.
   Or will they rise proportionally to CPU usage, storage and bandwidth?
 
   - Thomas
 
   On Dec 21, 7:56 pm, Dan Sanderson dansander...@google.com wrote:
 
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Thomas Johansson 
 prenc...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Speaking of the billing, perhaps you can elaborate on the other
 quotas
 in place, like sending emails, urlfetch and so forth?
 
The best sources of info on the quotas right now are the Quotas
 section of
the Admin Console, and the new section in the documentation:
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html
 
The docs have the definitions, and the Console has the precise
 amounts for
your application (the free levels) and how much your app has used in
 the
past 24 hours.  Please let me know if you have any further questions
 after
looking at these pages, so we can improve the docs.
 
-- Dan
 
 
 



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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache API Timing out

2008-11-13 Thread Pete Koomen

Hi Gayle,

Would you mind sending either your app_id or a stack trace to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  We haven't seen this globally and would like to
look into it.

Thanks!
Pete, App Engine Team

On Nov 13, 9:29 am, Gayle Laakmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Despite what the post at the link below says, memcache is actually
 timing out and throwing a DeadlineExceededError.  Furthermore, it
 hardly seems accurate to say that our apps should continue serving
 normally.  The quota limits are so ridiculously low that we CAN'T
 serve pages without caching.

 http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
 We will be taking memcache offline tomorrow morning from 9-10am PST
 (GMT-8) for routine maintenance.  Calls to the memcache API will *not*
 throw exceptions but will instead return false for set() calls and
 None for get() calls (just like any other cache miss.)

 Your app should continue serving normally during this period, and
 we'll keep you updated on our progress. 

 Additonally, I'd like to make two suggestions:
 1. If you're going to take down memcache, wouldn't it make sense to
 remove the quota limits?  It hardly seems fair to penalized for
 exceeding quota when caching is disabled.

 2.  If you have to take down our apps for an hour, can you pick
 something like 2am - 3am?  I know you don't want to go to work at 2am,
 but it's not really ok to take down our apps for an hour during prime-
 time.
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