[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread Afthab Ellath
This is quite odd... Why Kashmir is excluded from our consciousness? I would like to believe that this report is not true... But if it is, this is done in the name of Indian democracy, that we are responsible for... On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Anivar Aravind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread salimtk
afthab, u mean the report of mass grave at uri area in kashmir is wrong? or the civil society responses and actions to it? what is wrong if the reporting and the actions done in the name of indian democracy? On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is quite odd... Why Kashmir is

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread salimtk
'cold response' sounds like an allegation. before also some members came up and did the same about the cold response on dalit related mails. do u think silence is always condemnable? On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was mentioning about our cold response to this report...

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread ranju radha
when u writehistory of a region and remain silent on many aspects- movemnts, historical figures, culture of particular socail grp.-- and still want to escape quoting democratic right to be silent, such politcal mimicry is highly condemnable. the civil society's concerns are clearly reflctd on

[GreenYouth] Fw: Torture in any form by the state is unacceptable in a democracy

2008-05-01 Thread PVCHR
Torture in any form by the state is unacceptable in a democracy National People's Tribunal on Torture held on April 28-29 at Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh Lenin Raghuvanshi1/5/2008 9:45:59 AM(IST) The state level tribunal on torture as part of the National People''s Tribunal on

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread Afthab Ellath
Salim, I was not mentioning about this group... Do you think the coverage of the media in such a serious matter justifiable? On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:00 PM, salimtk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'cold response' sounds like an allegation. before also some members came up and did the same about the

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread salimtk
*I was mentioning about our cold response to this report... Did we take it as a serious matter? I worry, we didn't * above line is aftab's. when he said like OUR cold response and WE didnt take it serious, i cudnt imagine that he was referring to the historians, media people, intellectuals,

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread Afthab Ellath
*nor did i imagine that he was referring the vacuumized representation of marginalized people in history, which is clearly undebatable.* When we talk about this exclusion, it is not total... It is selective... Gujarat riots was covered, in length... Nandigram was covered... Even human rights

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread Bobby Kunhu
There have been some members here who have shown tendencies towards grand revolutions But that apart, when it comes to issues of caste - let me draw a parallel to feminism - silence most often regardless of the mens rea needs to be constructed as violence for no other reason, but how embedded

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-01 Thread ranju radha
silence could be for multiple reasons. however, My silence on the issue of muslims shows/expose my ideological/political inclinations. I should accept that. Some people who proclaim to represent ALL cant digest it. They would like to see themselves as saviours of ALL. Silence becomes a violent