GLib 2.25.14

2010-08-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
GLib 2.25.14 is now available for download at: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/2.25/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/glib/2.25/ 74844afba13dba6939398d30ed397f3443b5cc35803fd302fd55ee10c7f1fc20 glib-2.25.14.tar.bz2 5a04d0ab8ffe5eb38d3e61c6233200c7b444280449292f5003573f9eef469e27

GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/2.21/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/2.21/ 8b04df957bed1621fbc09976e4fab38cfe68011825d481070db825adc7ba6467 gtk +-2.21.6.tar.bz2 094f77d8606ea0ba76f2376fbd9174c29bbdffda8bc007dfee401d92a50e96c4 gtk

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Even if you link statically, there are dynamic modules in gtk that are pulled in at run time. Also, remember that linking statically has license implications, as you in such a case are forced to release your source code under the LGPL. Regards, Dov On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:19, Steve Frécinaux

Re: Minutes of the gtk+ team IRC meeting - 2010-05-25

2010-08-16 Thread Stefan Kost
On 01.06.2010 23:45, Stefan Kost wrote: Am 01.06.2010 15:50, schrieb Matthias Clasen: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: ardour uses a modified version (GtkCustomRuler along with its HV derivatives) in ardour, because the

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com schrieb: Really ? did you measure it ? it's been measured multiple times, on multiple platforms - especially on embedded ones. URL ? How often do typically gtk applications get startet - how many per second ? that's absolutely inconsequential.

Re: rendering-cleanup

2010-08-16 Thread Jean Brefort
Hi, Sorry to come late to this thread, but I'd like to know how you intend to support things that can't be rendered using cairo? Just like a 3D OpenGL scene. I'm not sure gtkglext would still work. I hope I'm missing something... Regards, Jean Le jeudi 22 juillet 2010 à 04:54 +0200, Benjamin

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com schrieb: Can you prove that it doesn't? Until you can, there's no logical reason to change the way GTK+ is currently done based on your say-so. There're a lot of other reasons for smaller libraries, for example reducing memory footprint, easier systems

Re: rendering-cleanup

2010-08-16 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/8/16 Jean Brefort jean.bref...@normalesup.org: Hi, Sorry to come late to this thread, but I'd like to know how you intend to support things that can't be rendered using cairo? Just like a 3D OpenGL scene. I'm not sure gtkglext would still work. I hope I'm missing something... That's an

Re: rendering-cleanup

2010-08-16 Thread Benjamin Otte
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Jean Brefort jean.bref...@normalesup.org wrote: Sorry to come late to this thread, but I'd like to know how you intend to support things that can't be rendered using cairo? Just like a 3D OpenGL scene. I'm not sure gtkglext would still work. I hope I'm missing

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/16/2010 07:22 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: hmm, isnt v3.x going to drop directfb support ? well ... Why would you want to use directfb when a tiny X server is the same footprint and much better supported? directfb is redundant. I hope you're not using it. It reimplements (poorly)

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com schrieb: Can you prove that it doesn't?  Until you can, there's no logical reason to change the way GTK+ is currently done based on your say-so. There're a lot of other reasons for

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com schrieb: Hi, Why would you want to use directfb when a tiny X server is the same footprint and much better supported? Which one are you talking about ? Kdrive ? How good is it supported, especially on non-x86 platforms ? Xwindow generelly has several

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Stefan Kost enso...@hora-obscura.de schrieb: I wonder how many dependencies are in between the widgets. If not many one could make gtk plugin based. Like having a gtkcore with the baseclasses, paint engine and event system only. All widgets are provided by plugins. That is a plugin can

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com schrieb: There're a lot of other reasons for smaller libraries, for example reducing memory footprint, easier systems maintenance (smaller libs normally mean less changes, since many of them will be done elsewhere), easier code review (less code to

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 08/16/10 15:29, Enrico Weigelt wrote: It grows as soon as certain pages are accessed. And - as already said - unless the distinct functional (sub)modules are aligned into their own pages instead of randomly cat'ed to one big contigious text section on linker's will, there's great chance

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Laurent Wan
Le 16/08/2010 15:56, Stefan Kost a écrit : On 15.06.2010 02:16, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: 2010/6/14 Sam Thursfieldsss...@gmail.com: A more socially-minded approach would be to work on the problem of sharing

GLib 2.25.14

2010-08-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
GLib 2.25.14 is now available for download at: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/glib/2.25/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/glib/2.25/ 74844afba13dba6939398d30ed397f3443b5cc35803fd302fd55ee10c7f1fc20 glib-2.25.14.tar.bz2 5a04d0ab8ffe5eb38d3e61c6233200c7b444280449292f5003573f9eef469e27

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/16/2010 12:54 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why would you want to use directfb when a tiny X server is the same footprint and much better supported? Which one are you talking about ? Kdrive ? How good is it supported, especially on non-x86 platforms ? Correct. kdrive is now part of the

Re: gtk_widget_draw()

2010-08-16 Thread Alexander Larsson
- Benjamin Otte o...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Here's an email detailing my thought process for what I want to do with rendering in the master branch following the rendering-cleanup merge. It's mostly a brain dump, so treat it as such. So, I read this thread and thought about it a bit

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2010/6/15 Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:10:58PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Yeah, I get it, but here's the point: it isn't nice when a maintainer says unlikely without giving even one reason, leaving the rest of us to guess (EG, that's most likely the reason).

GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/2.21/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/2.21/ 8b04df957bed1621fbc09976e4fab38cfe68011825d481070db825adc7ba6467 gtk +-2.21.6.tar.bz2 094f77d8606ea0ba76f2376fbd9174c29bbdffda8bc007dfee401d92a50e96c4 gtk

Signal handling questions

2010-08-16 Thread Dov Grobgeld
While playing around with a general system for doing polygon overlays (e.g. for rectangle or line selection) I got stuck on the following problem. Assume that I have a widget A that has an expose handler exp_A(). Now assume that I would temporarily like to draw an overlay on A from the code in