Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: is this really a correct description of 2.21: Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.21.5 to 2.21.6 == * Most drawing done by GTK+

Re: gtk_widget_draw()

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@ximian.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 07:56 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: its quite amusing to me how what is being described is slowly converging on something extremely close to a canvas model in many of its most fundamental

Re: gtk_widget_draw()

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: sometimes i hate gmail keybindings ... so, to finish what i was saying ... in my mind,  a canvas does two things: 1) composites together the result of a variety of different objects drawing themselves/ it does

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:52 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: is this really a correct description of 2.21

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: New functionality is available in both when it makes sense to do so, and deprecated functionality is marked as much. You shouldn't see any difference in usage if you don't use the new functionality. We distribute a

Re: gtk_widget_draw()

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@ximian.com wrote:  [ ... ] its quite amusing to me how what

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see how that follows. All that is happening in 2.22 is that some things are getting deprecated. You can still use them. We are not going to take them away from you during 2.x i wasn't really worried

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Jose Aliste jose.ali...@gmail.com wrote: After looking at the git log, you interpret correctly, but  I fail to see why do you perceive this as being bad. So, some GDK API is marked as deprecated, it seems fair to me that Gtk+ maintainers ensure the deprecated

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: is this really a correct description of 2.21: Overview of Changes from GTK+ 2.21.5 to 2.21.6 == * Most drawing done by GTK+

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:52 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: GTK+ 2.21.6 is now available for download at: is this really a correct description of 2.21

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: New functionality is available in both when it makes sense to do so, and deprecated functionality is marked as much. You shouldn't see any difference in usage if you don't use the new functionality. We distribute a

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see how that follows. All that is happening in 2.22 is that some things are getting deprecated. You can still use them. We are not going to take them away from you during 2.x i wasn't really worried

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Behdad Esfahbod behdad.esfah...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/10 12:50, Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see how that follows. All that is happening in 2.22 is that some things

Re: GTK+ 2.21.6

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Jose Aliste jose.ali...@gmail.com wrote: After looking at the git log, you interpret correctly, but  I fail to see why do you perceive this as being bad. So, some GDK API is marked as deprecated, it seems fair to me that Gtk+ maintainers ensure the deprecated

Re: cairo drawing commands to gdk_invalidate_region

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, but this is not what I am looking for. Here is a description of my flow, which might e.g. be used to draw a rubber band box: based on an IRC exchange about this a couple of days ago, the answer is two-fold:

Re: cairo drawing commands to gdk_invalidate_region

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I still don't get it. In my scenario there is initially is no external request of a region that should be drawn. The only source of what should be drawn, including what areas should be exposed, are in the draw()

Re: disabling GTK+ features to shrink GTK+

2010-08-16 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com schrieb: Can you prove that it doesn't?  Until you can, there's no logical reason to change the way GTK+ is currently done based on your say-so. There're a lot of other reasons for

Re: Any RGB macro in Gtk?

2010-08-15 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ken Resander kresan...@yahoo.com wrote: Q2. while googling I came across this for GdkColor: 'the programmer provides the r,g and b intensities and GDK fills in the pixel component.' When does GDK do this? By what functions? Q3. I have tried reading about

Re: AC_MSG_RESULT(patching libtool to fix HIDEOUS BREAKAGE) [was Re:dconf 0.5]

2010-08-04 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Daniel Macks dma...@netspace.org wrote: (drifting slightly off topic into another pet peeve...) .la files are a crutch that makes it easy for developers to avoid remembering to link against libraries that they actually use. alas, they are not even really that.

Re: How to tear off a toolbar?

2010-07-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Chris Vine ch...@cvine.freeserve.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:18:09 +0800 Bruce bruce1...@uestc.edu.cn wrote:       Can anyone tell me how can I tear off a toolbar?       I can tear off a menu using gtk_tearoff_menu_item_new, but I still want to get a

Re: Problems with accelerators.

2010-06-19 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:30 AM, sledge hammer sledgehammer_...@hotmail.com wrote: I want the action to fire to both key-presses, both with GDK_asterisk(in my keyboard shift+8) and GDK_KP_Multiply (in numpad). Is this even possible? basically, no. bindings are from keycodes to actions, not

Re: Problems with accelerators.

2010-06-19 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org wrote: I think you could do something roundabout like calling gtk_widget_add_accelerator() multiple times on one of your action's visible proxies (and yourself ensuring that the accel group -- widget -- window relationships

Re: Looking to pay someone to improve gtk+ on osx.

2010-06-06 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Lucas Meijer lu...@unity3d.com wrote: Hi, My company (Unity3d.com) cares about getting MonoDevelop to run great on osx. MonoDevelop uses gtk+, which on osx has a whole array of problems, especially on multi monitor setups. I'm looking for a hacker who would

Re: Looking to pay someone to improve gtk+ on osx.

2010-06-06 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: the only problem we see at present may be the same as the focus issue you mention: menus and occasionally buttons that do not get mouse focus

Re: Minutes of the gtk+ team IRC meeting - 2010-05-25

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: ardour uses a modified version (GtkCustomRuler along with its HV derivatives) in ardour, because the stock ruler is not  flexible

Re: Does GTK leak memory

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Lothar Scholz llot...@web.de wrote: Hello gtk-list, I'm using g_mem_set_vtable(glib_mem_profiler_table); g_atexit(g_mem_profile); don't even waste your time. gtk does not leak. you are not the first (and will not be the last) to ask this question. determining

Re: Does GTK leak memory

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Sergei Steshenko sergst...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 6/2/10, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: don't even waste your time. gtk does not leak. I have never laughed more. Just go through gtk+ release notes and look for the fixed bugs related

Re: Re[4]: Does GTK leak memory

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Lothar Scholz llot...@web.de wrote: And a tool that just dumps me which objects are still alive would be very helpfull too. MacOSX and MFC have features like this. Maybe GTK is really just another toy? and to think that i was trying to save you time and effort.

Re: OS X 'make' error

2010-06-01 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Sean endersyr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install gtk+ 2.20.1 on OS X 10.6.3. I receive the following errors when running make: dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _iconv_open Referenced from:

Re: OS X 'make' error

2010-06-01 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Sean endersyr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have libiconv in ~/opt/gtk. Is there a variable I'm supposed to set that will resolve the problem? what is the output of env(1) ? ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org

Re: [Quartz] Gtk Selection

2010-05-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:21 AM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: The structure of that part of Gdk follows very closely the X11 way of doing things, and Cocoa Foundation's way of handling selections and clipboards (which they call pasteboards) doesn't line up very well with it. It seems

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: OK. It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think that it will get much use in its present form. [ ... explanation elided .., ] I'm totally with John on this one. --p

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think that it will get much use in its present form. Right - in reality I expect

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: (It would be useful to have a (g)dbus-quartz that uses OSX's facilities instead of dbus-daemon, for example; that would allow the Gtk

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: I just looked again at the GnomeLive GTK+/ApplicationClass page, and it occurs to me that you are perhaps limiting your thinking to dbus:

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote: How much platform-specific semantics can there be in 'activate' and 'quit', really ? what do you think quit means? ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote: How much platform-specific semantics can there be in 'activate' and 'quit', really ? and i forgot... what do you imagine that activate maps to on an X11 backend? i ask because i'm not seeing it.

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier string. GApplication needs this for uniqueness, and GSettings requires one too.

Re: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available.

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.comwrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier string

Re: Multi-platform dbus (was: Ige-mac-integration: New version with Cocoa interface available)

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: Sure. But dbus provides services which are provided by notifications and AppleEvents on OSX. If a supposedly cross-platform application supports only the dbus way, it turns out to be pretty autistic on OSX. I don't think

Re: Doubts about GThreads

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Iñigo Martínez martine...@ikusi.comwrote: Hello: Recently I have written an application using the threads from glib. apparently your first experience with threads. when you use a conditional variable, every waiter and notifier that uses it must use the SAME

Re: Doubts about GThreads

2010-05-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Iñigo Martínez martine...@ikusi.comwrote: I mean, before waiting on a condition, is usual to lock the mutex used on the condition, so if the thread is waiting and the mutex locked, another thread will not be able to lock the same mutex to wake up the thread

Re: Creating an app with optional GTK support

2010-05-16 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Stanislav Maslovski stanislav.maslov...@gmail.com wrote: File chooser dialog is for sure broken. Have you ever tried using it with a large directory, esp. on a network share? what version of GTK are you referring to? i've certainly seen the problems you are

Re: gtk_toggle_button_get_active() error in clicked event?

2010-05-10 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Tadej Borovšak tadeb...@gmail.com wrote: You need to keep in mind that GtkButton::clicked signal is an action signal, which means that it can be emitted by application without button being actually pressed. true, and terrible, terrible design :) still, the

Re: gtk_toggle_button_get_active() error in clicked event?

2010-05-10 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Kurucz István kurucz.ist...@gmail.comwrote: Hello On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Tadej Borovšak tadeb...@gmail.com wrote: You need to keep in mind that GtkButton::clicked signal is an action signal, which means that it can be emitted by application

Re: client side windows borkage on Gdk/Quartz

2010-04-25 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org wrote: [ ... lots of good stuff ... ] Kristian - thanks for filling me in. It was getting late last night so I didn't dig into how much of the client side windows change had actually percolated into the quartz backend. I will take

Re: client side windows borkage on Gdk/Quartz

2010-04-25 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org wrote: As far as I understand, there's only that top level NSView in GDK applications now in the case of client side windows, that does not contain any other NSViews. So for each NSWindow there will only be a single NSView for

Re: client side windows borkage on Gdk/Quartz

2010-04-25 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org wrote: The distinction between creating a client side or native window is *not* made in _gdk_window_impl_new() in gdkwindow-quartz.c; this ah, i was in too deep :) ___ gtk-devel-list

client side windows borkage on Gdk/Quartz

2010-04-24 Thread Paul Davis
I finally switched our app (ardour) over to a more-or-less current version of GTK (git head from a few weeks ago). we immediately noticed a major slowdown in drawing performance. After quite a few hours of adding gettimeofday() calls all over the place, I've finally got a handle on what is causing

Re: GTK setuid problem

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:22 AM, robin robi...@iwavesystems.com wrote:     s = socket(AF_PACKET, SOCK_RAW, htons(ETH_P_ALL)); regular users can't do this on most (all?) linux systems. this is a highly priviledged operation, and its not a suprise that a regular user can't do this. in that

Re: application class thoughts

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Davis
-announcement, I have a naming question. Paul Davis wrote the first take on the menu part of the Cocoa library and named the application class GtkApplication, and the implementation file with objective-C calls gtkapplication-quartz.m. I've kept the class name while working on getting it ready

Re: application class thoughts

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 11:24 -0700, John Ralls wrote: But Carbon is deprecated anyway, right?  So if one were to try to design support for all this into gtk 3.0, would it hurt to just ignore Carbon and design for Cocoa?

Re: gthread: how many cores do I have?

2010-04-04 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Mark Mielke m...@mark.mielke.cc wrote: Optimally - both counts should be available. How many tasks can I run simultaneously at near 100% CPU vs how many tasks can I run simultaneously at any % of the CPU. A task doing video encoding or anything that would

Re: gthread: how many cores do I have?

2010-04-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Freddie Unpenstein fredde...@excite.com wrote: I'm only throwing my 2c in on this topic, because I'd think what the API should be counting is simply how many threads of this application could conceivably be running simultaneously.  Any other measure should be

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-28 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, 1...@depikt.net wrote: Yes - there are maintainance problems with gtk+ - serious maintainance problems. let me attempt to rephrase for you: During the development of our application, we have found that our designs seem to require features in GTK that are

Re: GAppInfo and the working directory

2010-01-28 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 19:25 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote: Hey, I've found little information on how to set the working directory for applications started via GAppInfo on the net. The only mail I stumbled across was

Re: GAppInfo and the working directory

2010-01-28 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 07:43 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote:   * discovering the file(s) used to spawn the application (by dbl-click)   * noticing

Re: Less GdkWindows in the API

2010-01-25 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: The number of times I have seen people on gtk-list or in #gtk+ be told to go read the Xlib programming manual to understand what GdkEvents are is frustrating. I originally had the idea that using GTK would mean

Re: On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: Hi Jud, Thanks for bringing this up. How about: those who care come up with a replacement combination for focus navigation in GTK+, and a patch to implement ctrl+tab to change tabs, and submit that for upstream

Re: On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what you mean.  I'm running Firefox and Thunderbird on OS X, and they use Ctrl-Tab.  Cmd-Tab is reserved for application switching on OS X. ah, thanks for the reminder. oh well, another incentive to push that bug

Re: Testing for memory leaks in GTK

2010-01-07 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo mle+...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Simon McVittie wrote: Debian's GLib packages compile GLib twice; the normal copy with the recommended hidden-visibility settings ends up in /usr/lib in the normal libglib2.0-0 binary package (which other packages

Re: Testing for memory leaks in GTK

2010-01-05 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Morten Welinder mort...@gnome.org wrote: You probably need to end with something like this useful, but that doesn't explain the dependency on the number of GtkWindows created, does it? ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list

Re: pango @ introspection.m4

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Johan Dahlin jo...@gnome.org wrote: It is intentionally, you need introspection.m4 to run autogen.sh from pango HEAD, that's what Behdad wanted, you should aim your questions at him. understood. but now i am puzzled. is there no process for this? i am on

pango @ introspection.m4

2010-01-02 Thread Paul Davis
what is this? http://git.gnome.org/browse/pango/commit/?id=fd15a3a04c69af0f5c04cde8c659269d0b139c28 as far as i can tell, pango doesn't use introspection, and this was added without including introspection.m4 to the pango tree, thus rendering it unbuildable on a system that doesn't happen to

Re: Undo stack for GTK+ (was: Re: undo in textview)

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org wrote: Particularly point 5, nested transactions; I banged my head around that one for a while and finally did not implement this; my interpretation of nested transactions was something like this:  o User initiates action  o

Re: Undo stack for GTK+ (was: Re: undo in textview)

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org wrote: Particularly point 5, nested transactions; I banged my head around that one for a while and finally did not implement this; my interpretation of nested transactions was something like this:  o User initiates action  o

Re: Undo stack for GTK+ (was: Re: undo in textview)

2009-12-29 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Holger Berndt bern...@gmx.de wrote: Cross-posting to move the discussion to gtk-devel-list. Anybody interested in the topic, please follow up there. On Do, 24.09.2009 19:23, A. Walton wrote: It's definitely something many developers would love to see in Gtk+,

Re: Undo stack for GTK+ (was: Re: undo in textview)

2009-12-29 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Holger Berndt bern...@gmx.de wrote: Cross-posting to move the discussion to gtk-devel-list. Anybody interested in the topic, please follow up there. On Do, 24.09.2009 19:23, A. Walton wrote: It's definitely something many developers would love to see in Gtk+,

Re: Pango CoreText/ATSUI (was:Intricate changes to Quartz/OSX backend)

2009-12-21 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org wrote: On Oct 26, 2009, at 4:47 PM, John Ralls wrote: True, switch would have been a better term... ISTM that a configure option and a macro that selects either the ATSUI or CoreText function is the way to go, so that Pango

Re: 'Suspect' libglib-2.0 when launching Ardour2.8.4

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:56 AM, G. GuitarLord muadiba...@hotmail.com wrote: Ok, i re-installed glib2-2.14.6-2.fc8. Restarted X, then did ' nm -D --radix=dec --defined-only -S /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so | grep -w g_atomic_int_add' Result:  00072976 0014 T g_atomic_int_add ? the actual

Re: 'Suspect' libglib-2.0 when launching Ardour2.8.4

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: In fact, do just ldd /usr/lib/ardour2/ardour-2.8.4 2 /dev/null | grep glib-2.0 to see where ardour is looking for glib. as a followup, in case the OP doesn't do it ... the problem was that he was using Fedora 8, which was

Re: 'Suspect' libglib-2.0 when launching Ardour2.8.4

2009-12-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, G. GuitarLord muadiba...@hotmail.com wrote: nm -D --radix=dec --defined-only /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so | grep -w g_atomic_int_add which returns: 00072976 T g_atomic_int_add I got that command slightly wrong. Please show what the output of this is: nm -D

Re: 'Suspect' libglib-2.0 when launching Ardour2.8.4

2009-12-13 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM, G. GuitarLord muadiba...@hotmail.com wrote: Got it! It returns: 00072976 0014 T g_atomic_int_add this should not trigger the message, which is based on testing the second field for a value larger than 32. --radix=dec was specified to ensure that the size

Re: Multhithreading internals in GTK+

2009-12-09 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:24 AM, jcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vish, 2009/12/2 Vishwanath Venkatesan venka...@cs.columbia.edu: I am trying to understand the  internals of threading in GTK+-2.0. From my understanding there are threads generated with GTK+ functions (ex. Opening a file-dialog)

Re: Minutes of the GTK+ Team Meeting - 2009-11-27

2009-11-28 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 17:52 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: 7. menu export over D-Bus [bratsche] - useful for ubuntu's application indicators - Quartz backend - menu reflowing - bratsche is working on a general

Re: compiling pygtk against gtk+ frameworks on osx

2009-11-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Chad Dombrova chad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks for the response.  I see no mention of the glib/gobject/GTK+ versions that are included in the said framework on the site: http

Re: Why are no developers completing/maintaining native Gtk+ for OS X?

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Jack Skellington dac...@gmail.com wrote: Also if a native Gtk+ OS X framework were available people who are maintaining Gtk+ apps would have the option to extend their user base to OS X quite quickly. All it requires to use it is to build the GTK stack yourself

Re: RFC: Adding zlib dependency to libgio

2009-11-09 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote: I know you're really interested in cross-desktop VFS support, and I don't disagree with having something like that. However, the fact is that libGIO is an important part of the Gtk development stack, that contains all

Re: Intricate changes to Quartz/OSX backend

2009-10-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Kristian Rietveld wrote: Hi, Over the weekend I have reworked how the Quartz backend does its coordinate transformation.  You can imagine this is at the very core of the backend and thus a

Re: Intricate changes to Quartz/OSX backend

2009-10-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: When I've encountered that in the past it's been because Python was too old: Jhbuild's tarball.py uses a function that's only available in Python 2.5. While jhbuild bootstrap will install a new Python for you on Tiger

Re: Building Gtk-OSX (was: Intricate changes to Quartz/OSX backend)

2009-10-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: When I've encountered that in the past it's been because Python was too old: Jhbuild's tarball.py

Re: Building Gtk-OSX (was: Intricate changes to Quartz/OSX backend)

2009-10-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:22 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: Um, how long ago did you last run jhbuild bootstrap? The m4 module was added to bootstrap.modules last December, with version 1.4.11. more than bootstrap - fixing this required an entirely new version of jhbuild. there is

Re: Are Out-of-Tree Widgets Second-Class Citizens?

2009-10-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Brian J. Tarricone bj...@cornell.edu wrote: On 10/02/2009 07:17 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote: These two responses (Cody's and Brian's) don't jive. Any more clarification available? Thanks. Sure they do...  Cody said apps will have to use public APIs instead of

another quartz maintainance request (patch review commit)

2009-09-10 Thread Paul Davis
This bug report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594738 contains a potentially important fix to make 2+ monitors work with GTK/Quartz. Those of us in the GTK/Quartz community would appreciate someone with commit rights (1) looking at christian's approach and forming a judgement on

recent jhbuild error ... clues?

2009-09-10 Thread Paul Davis
*** Checking out perl-xml-parser *** [10/15] curl --continue-at - -L http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MS/MSERGEANT/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz -o /Users/paul/gtk/source/pkgs/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz ** Resuming transfer from byte position 321 % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed Time

Re: gnome-canvas and scroll events

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Stefan Kostenso...@hora-obscura.de wrote: Paul Davis schrieb: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: so, suppose i submit a patch that makes gnome-canvas forward scroll events to its items. what would the likely timeframe

Re: gnome-canvas and scroll events

2009-09-07 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: so, suppose i submit a patch that makes gnome-canvas forward scroll events to its items. what would the likely timeframe be for adoption and release? btw, just to be clear - i'm talking about cases where an item grab

Re: Status of GTK+ on Mac OS X?

2009-09-02 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:11 AM, John Pyej...@curioussymbols.com wrote: As I understand it, using jhbuild will allow me to conveniently switch between release tarballs and svn HEAD. It's also ensuring that dependencies are built in correct order, so I'm pretty happy to be using that for the

Re: Status of GTK+ on Mac OS X?

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:18 PM, John Pyej...@curioussymbols.com wrote: There's no PyGTK binary available anywhere for OS X. The only route seems to be to use 'jhbuild' and John Ralls' instructions from gtk-osx.sf.net. This seems unnecessarily difficult after the pleasant experience of getting

Re: gtk

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Shivaprasad Pshivaprasad.ang...@toshiba-tesi.com wrote: Hi, Can we copy entrire gnome canvas content(some area of which is embedded in scroll window) into a jpeg file? depends how much work you want to do. anything is possible, including this. but there

Re: Expose events and scissoring

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Lindley M Frenchlfren...@gmu.edu wrote: I'm still trying to create a screenshot mechanism for my GtkDrawingArea which will work even when the area isn't visible on-screen. I've made progress, but there's still a problem. this is really the wrong way to go

Re: Widget states rethought

2009-08-20 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Thorsten Wilmst...@freenet.de wrote: * Button down * Button up ... State of widget model: On/Off/Indecisive isn't the state of a button intended to reflect the model state? how does button up/down differ from a boolean state in the model?

Re: Widget states for 3.0 (and 2.18?)

2009-08-19 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Thomas Woodt...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 10:42 -0500, Cody Russell wrote: Right, but I guess that's part of the point of all this.  Wouldn't it make more sense if we try to move this type of information into a single location instead of having

Re: Quartz DnD patch review approval sought

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Davis
BUMP for the next month crowd could i get a response on this? On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588449 I'd appreciate some more review and possible approval of this patch. It would remove the last

Quartz DnD patch review approval sought

2009-07-28 Thread Paul Davis
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588449 I'd appreciate some more review and possible approval of this patch. It would remove the last substantive item in the patch that is necessary to get Ardour to run on GTK/Quartz, and would presumably help other applications similarly. --p

Re: GtkWarning: gtk_button_box_set_child_secondary: assertion `child-parent == GTK_WIDGET (widget)' failed

2009-07-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Gerald Brittongerald.brit...@gmail.com wrote: Reposting.  Still hoping for an answer! On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Gerald Brittongerald.brit...@gmail.com wrote: HI -- I'm getting errors like this from one of my glade files (Gtk.Builder): GtkWarning:

Re: Align button text (was: Button with menu)

2009-07-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Tobias Webert...@celvina.de wrote: On 11.07.2009, at 14:20, Tobias Weber wrote: It's easier with a ComboBox So that's my add 'button'. The remove button is still a normal one. Which means one has the label on the left, the other centered. How do I unify

Re: GTK on Macintosh OSX

2009-07-12 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Rallsjra...@ceridwen.us wrote: As you all probably know, Richard Hult has withdrawn from working further on the osx/quartz implementation of gtk. You may not know that I have taken over the build, bundle, and menu integration part of that and consolidated

Re: transparent cairo rendering

2009-06-18 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jose Heviajose.francisco.he...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been fighting for a long time with a very simple program I can't make work the way it should. The question is: Is that a bug or is it my fault? why are there calls to gtk_widget_show() from your

Re: problems with keyboard events in pygtk

2009-06-14 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Jamie Boisturejamieboist...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all,     I am running pygtk in ubuntu 9.04.  I am having a problem with keyboard events because whenever a key is held down it emits pressed released pressed released until the key is actually released.  I

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