On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:11:55 -0600
IgnorantGuru ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
I haven't had the pleasure to converse with Andre Klapper, but I
can
Dude, seriously.
There is no conspiracy. Red Hat is not an evil empire.
If you have a problem, spit it out already. Otherwise, ranting about how
Red Hat is taking over the world!!1! is not doing anyone a favour.
You've made your point. It would appear that people are not really in
agreement with
Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
Matthias Clasen
Emmanuele Bassi
André Klapper
Specially, their conduct administering the GTK+ bugtracker in the case
of bug
Hello,
I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this case:
*Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says something
else that you do.
GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is a GNOME Foundation product, if you
want to put it anywhere. It is led by several
Hello,
I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences,
that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees” before,
although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must confess that
sometimes I bugged them or IRC before they answered my calls. The keywords
Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit :
As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists and
such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and often
ask why I use it at all.
Indeed, can't you go back and use GTK 2 instead ? (Maybe does this bug
exist in GTK2
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would
have developers who are held
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would
have developers who are held
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:17:15 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:17:15 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
And you want the GNOME developers to support all of them?
I want GTK+ developers to stick to GUI development with minimal dependencies,
and certainly no DE-specific dependencies, and not engage the entire Red Hat
stack in
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
And you want the GNOME developers to support all of them?
I want GTK+ developers to stick to GUI development with minimal dependencies,
and certainly no DE-specific dependencies, and not engage the entire Red Hat
stack in
Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit :
As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists and
such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and often
ask why I use it at all.
Indeed, can't you go back and use GTK 2 instead ? (Maybe does this bug
exist in GTK2
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST)
Lucas Levrel llev...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit :
As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists
and such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and
often ask why I use it at all.
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST)
Lucas Levrel llev...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit :
As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists
and such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and
often ask why I use it at all.
Hello,
I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this case:
*Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says something
else that you do.
GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is a GNOME Foundation product, if you
want to put it anywhere. It is led by several
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:08 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
It’s not a question of whether I personally want to use systemd or
gvfs or Red Hat's tools, or even what conspiracies that
billion-dollar corporation may be involved with. But as an
independent FM developer using
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would
have developers who are held accountable for their actions. One reason I sent
this complaint to this list is
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200
John Tall mjta...@gmail.com wrote:
GTK+ is not a Red Hat project.
Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would
have developers who are held accountable for their actions. One reason I sent
this complaint to this list is
It’s not a question of whether I personally want to use systemd or gvfs or Red
Hat's tools, or even what conspiracies that billion-dollar corporation may be
involved with. But as an independent FM developer using GTK as my GUI, I want
my software to be able to run on a wide variety of systems,
It’s not a question of whether I personally want to use systemd or gvfs or Red
Hat's tools, or even what conspiracies that billion-dollar corporation may be
involved with. But as an independent FM developer using GTK as my GUI, I want
my software to be able to run on a wide variety of systems,
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:53:24 +0200
Gergely Polonkai gerg...@polonkai.eu wrote:
Hello,
I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this
case: *Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says
something else that you do.
GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is
Dude, seriously.
There is no conspiracy. Red Hat is not an evil empire.
If you have a problem, spit it out already. Otherwise, ranting about how
Red Hat is taking over the world!!1! is not doing anyone a favour.
You've made your point. It would appear that people are not really in
agreement with
I'd just like to thank everyone for their input. I'll be unsubscribing from
these lists shortly - I'm not a regular subscriber - so please feel free to
comment on my blog or CC me. Also, for those curious about my blog, it is not
revenue generating, it's just a developer's blog that receives
Hello,
I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences,
that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees” before,
although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must confess that
sometimes I bugged them or IRC before they answered my calls. The keywords
Right. What happens seems to be that because the Red Hat (or people
working closely with them) are the main developers in gtk+, and they mainly
work on GNOME, they naturally look at the needs of GNOME as the main driver
for their work. It is hard to say they intentionally work against
non-GNOME
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:53:24 +0200
Gergely Polonkai gerg...@polonkai.eu wrote:
Hello,
I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this
case: *Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says
something else that you do.
GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:34:44 +0200
Gergely Polonkai gerg...@polonkai.eu wrote:
Hello,
I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences,
that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees”
before, although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:34:44 +0200
Gergely Polonkai gerg...@polonkai.eu wrote:
Hello,
I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences,
that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees”
before, although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:11 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
Matthias Clasen
Emmanuele Bassi
André Klapper
I read the entire
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:11 PM, IgnorantGuru
ignorantg...@openmailbox.org wrote:
Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
Matthias Clasen
Emmanuele Bassi
André Klapper
I read the entire
This is probably ill-advised, but what they hey?
Having read through your transcript, what I see is three developers
trying to deal with an initially-vague bug about non-standard use
reported against the incorrect component. Not only do they get that
straightened out, but Emmanuele Bassi
oh my, all that time, what luxury... can you luxuriate on another list,
please?
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:11 PM, IgnorantGuru ignorantg...@openmailbox.org
wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:53:22 -0400
Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
You are the person who began their first post on
On 06/04/2015 01:11 PM, IgnorantGuru wrote:
All that needs to be done to fix it is add the traditional
location used for fuse mounts to the heuristics - a 5 minute job.
Have you submitted a patch then? I have a hard time seeing how any of
the devs would refuse a well-written patch that fixes
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:17 PM, IgnorantGuru ignorantg...@openmailbox.org
wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 16:30:43 -0400
Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
Wow, what an amazing waste of time and space.
Yes, that's what I thought for such a simple bug. Imagine if Comment #1
had been:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 16:30:43 -0400
Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
Wow, what an amazing waste of time and space.
Yes, that's what I thought for such a simple bug. Imagine if Comment #1 had
been:
Indeed, we seem to have broken gio when we added our gvfs hack, making the
file
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:14:08 -0400
Robert Schroll rschr...@gmail.com wrote:
This is probably ill-advised, but what they hey?
I wouldn't say it's ill-advised on your part, since you're taking no risk by
supporting their behavior unconditionally. That's always quite safe and
expected.
Having
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:53:22 -0400
Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
You are the person who began their first post on the bug with I
realize that GTK development is effectively dead for non-Gnome
projects,...
Indeed, I do realize that. Perhaps your opinion of the situation differs.
Wow, what an amazing waste of time and space. Also, it isn't on a mailing
list that is even halfway relevant, unless you're just trying to poison the
air.
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Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
Matthias Clasen
Emmanuele Bassi
André Klapper
Specially, their conduct administering the GTK+ bugtracker in the case
of bug
Greetings. Not sure where is the best place to bring this - input
welcome - but this email is an official complaint against the conduct
of:
Matthias Clasen
Emmanuele Bassi
André Klapper
Specially, their conduct administering the GTK+ bugtracker in the case
of bug
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