Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, 2019-02-09 at 02:15 +0200, makep...@firemail.cc wrote: > > open an issue for Gtk by > > emailing a specific email address on GitLab > > GNOME's instance seem to disallow creating issues by email. GitLab > itself, if configured with sub-addressing, generates a private email > address for

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread makepost
open an issue for Gtk by emailing a specific email address on GitLab GNOME's instance seem to disallow creating issues by email. GitLab itself, if configured with sub-addressing, generates a private email address for issues when you sign in and visit a repository page:

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Jan Tojnar via gtk-devel-list
On Pá, úno 8, 2019 at 11:53 PM, Reuben Rissler wrote: Thanks. But it probably isn't possible to open an issue for Gtk by emailing a specific email address on GitLab, or am I wrong? Only in Enterprise Edition Premium: https://gitlab.com/help/user/project/service_desk

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Reuben Rissler
On 02/08/2019 04:37 PM, makep...@firemail.cc wrote: So let me get this straight, GitLab has a feature where an ordinary user can setup his GitLab account to email him every time a new issue is created? It's on the repo page, behind the bell icon, to the left of the star. Visible after

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread makepost
So let me get this straight, GitLab has a feature where an ordinary user can setup his GitLab account to email him every time a new issue is created? It's on the repo page, behind the bell icon, to the left of the star. Visible after signing in. To be honest, I'd rather hide the stars and

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread sri
On Fri, 2019-02-08 at 11:07 +, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > > > In general, mailman3 + hyperkitty is a somewhat good upgrade on > mailman2 (even though I still prefer the old archive pages compared > to hyperkitty; I've been going through those *a lot* for my "History > of

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Reuben Rissler
On 02/08/2019 12:45 PM, makep...@firemail.cc wrote: ardour LMMS moved handling of support requests and conversations from their mailing list to GitHub issues and it works. Using GNOME's GitLab as the single place for discussions can also be considered an alternative. One can respond to

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread makepost
> ardour LMMS moved handling of support requests and conversations from their mailing list to GitHub issues and it works. Using GNOME's GitLab as the single place for discussions can also be considered an alternative. One can respond to issues via email, and email is how I get my

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread makepost
> - Hyperkitty's UX is confusing, cluttered to the point of being unhelpful Would benefit from examples of clutter. Opened home page, saw lists. Opened list, saw threads. Opened thread, saw replies and a new reply link. And some buttons for permalink, rating, archive and stats. Basic

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:33 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list < gtk-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > > As for the subscription: Discourse supports multiple identity > providers—Google, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Yahoo, and GitHub are all > supported, and there's a plugin available for GitLab

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 12:19, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > The main differences are that you’d need a different subscription account > than the existing one, and that you wouldn’t have the weekly digests, as > far as I can see. > It turns out I was wrong: Discourse has "weekly summaries" as well.

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 00:54, wrote: > > We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in > > functionality. Avoiding Hyperkitty is what led us to Discourse in the > > first place. > Can you link that discussion please? It was on IRC and in person discussions, and private emails

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-list
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 13:16, Eric Williams via gtk-list wrote: > One benefit I find to mailing lists is that they are search engine > indexed, meaning when I google a warning or assertion error I often get > pointed to a mailing list thread that discusses the issue I am trying to > fix. > >

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread codemusings--- via gtk-list
Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2019, 12:46 +0100 schrieb Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-app-devel-list: > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > gtk-devel-list] > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other > core developers were thinking of

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-08 Thread Tilo Villwock via gtk-app-devel-list
Am Mittwoch, den 06.02.2019, 12:46 +0100 schrieb Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-app-devel-list: > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > gtk-devel-list] > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other > core developers were thinking of

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Eric Williams via gtk-list
One benefit I find to mailing lists is that they are search engine indexed, meaning when I google a warning or assertion error I often get pointed to a mailing list thread that discusses the issue I am trying to fix. Being able to find such discussions and then follow them in thread format

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-app-devel-list
As a side note, Python has also opened a Discourse instance (in addition to their Zulip experiment), and the results have pretty much been positive. I've also been on Fedora's for quite some time, and it's great. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:46 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list <

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Niels De Graef via gtk-app-devel-list
Hi all, I'm very much in favor! Being able to still use e-mail while also having a convenient and pretty-looking interface is something I look *really* forward to. My only question is: what happens to the old archives? Do we keep them online as-is, or is there a plan to also migrate them? The

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Niels De Graef via gtk-list
Hi all, I'm very much in favor! Being able to still use e-mail while also having a convenient and pretty-looking interface is something I look *really* forward to. My only question is: what happens to the old archives? Do we keep them online as-is, or is there a plan to also migrate them? The

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Paul Davis
Emmaneule, at ardour.org, we recently switched from using Drupal forums to Discourse. The results have been delightful. We managed to get single sign on integration with our existing site working, which was important for us, but probably not so much for a GTK Discourse. More notably, once you

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-07 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-list
As a side note, Python has also opened a Discourse instance (in addition to their Zulip experiment), and the results have pretty much been positive. I've also been on Fedora's for quite some time, and it's great. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:46 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list <

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
> you would largely only use the web UI to sign up or change your settings. What about reading the history? I mostly end up on mailing lists web UI by following links from web searches and bug trackers. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
> hiding things that previously were obvious and made inaccessible without > scripting overhead > enabled, overabundant whitespace, tiny gray text, short lists where 5X as > many would otherwise fit. All these points that you make apply to Discourse. Its client side seems entirely JS and

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
As has been mentioned, Discourse allows you to receive and via email, you would largely only use the web UI to sign up or change your settings. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 11:25 PM Felix Miata

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Felix Miata via gtk-devel-list
Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list composed on 2019-02-06 12:46 (UTC+0100): > Are there any objections? Did somebody already try out Discourse and has > opinions about it that they want to share with the community? As happened when various mozilla dev mailing lists moved to discourse, I ceased

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Felix Miata via gtk-devel-list
makep...@firemail.cc composed on 2019-02-07 02:54 (UTC+0200): >> We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in >> functionality. Avoiding Hyperkitty is what led us to Discourse in the >> first place. > Can you link that discussion please? I'm interested what newcomers want >

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
Hmm, unfortunately it was over some scattered IRC messages, I can try and find them in the logs if you like. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 8:38 PM wrote: > > I know someone who set up HyperKitty,

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Michael Gratton
On Wed, 6 Feb, 2019 at 10:46 PM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-list wrote: As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the current mailman installation to Discourse: Possibly

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
I know someone who set up HyperKitty, it was a nightmare How so? Can you link their blog post? I'm not its user or developer, I want to better understand the software choice. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list gtk-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
I know someone who set up HyperKitty, it was a nightmare and still is a nightmare. -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 6:54 PM wrote: > > We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread David C. Rankin
On 02/06/2019 05:46 AM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-app-devel-list wrote: > Are there any objections? Did somebody already try out Discourse and has > opinions about it that they want to share with the community? > > Ciao, > Emmanuele. Improvements are always welcome, but I've seen a number of

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread makepost
We already looked at Hyperkitty, and found it fairly limited in functionality. Avoiding Hyperkitty is what led us to Discourse in the first place. Can you link that discussion please? I'm interested what newcomers want to do such that Hyperkitty doesn't let. Negatives of Discourse: loads

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread sri
On Wed, 2019-02-06 at 12:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > gtk-devel-list] > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Ryan Gonzalez via gtk-devel-list
As a side note, Python has also opened a Discourse instance (in addition to their Zulip experiment), and the results have pretty much been positive. I've also been on Fedora's for quite some time, and it's great. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:46 AM Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list <

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Niels De Graef via gtk-devel-list
Hi all, I'm very much in favor! Being able to still use e-mail while also having a convenient and pretty-looking interface is something I look *really* forward to. My only question is: what happens to the old archives? Do we keep them online as-is, or is there a plan to also migrate them? The

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-app-devel-list
More information on Discourse: - About: https://www.discourse.org/about - Features: https://www.discourse.org/features Discourse is a forum software that has multiple ways to access it: web, native apps, and email. It's not a mailing list software with a web frontend. The interesting (to

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
More information on Discourse: - About: https://www.discourse.org/about - Features: https://www.discourse.org/features Discourse is a forum software that has multiple ways to access it: web, native apps, and email. It's not a mailing list software with a web frontend. The interesting (to

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-list
More information on Discourse: - About: https://www.discourse.org/about - Features: https://www.discourse.org/features Discourse is a forum software that has multiple ways to access it: web, native apps, and email. It's not a mailing list software with a web frontend. The interesting (to

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Paul Davis
Emmaneule, at ardour.org, we recently switched from using Drupal forums to Discourse. The results have been delightful. We managed to get single sign on integration with our existing site working, which was important for us, but probably not so much for a GTK Discourse. More notably, once you

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Paul Davis
Emmaneule, at ardour.org, we recently switched from using Drupal forums to Discourse. The results have been delightful. We managed to get single sign on integration with our existing site working, which was important for us, but probably not so much for a GTK Discourse. More notably, once you

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 15:11, Charles Lindsey wrote: > > > On 06/02/2019 11:46, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: > > [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to > > gtk-devel-list] > > > > As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and > other

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Charles Lindsey
On 06/02/2019 11:46, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: [Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to gtk-devel-list] As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list
Hi; On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 13:10, Reuben Rissler wrote: > > To introduce myself, I only am using Gtk for 3 years, but really like > the infrastructure / people / open source surrounding Gtk. I am > sometimes seen as 'theGtknerd'. > > > On 02/06/2019 06:46 AM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list

Re: Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Reuben Rissler
To introduce myself, I only am using Gtk for 3 years, but really like the infrastructure / people / open source surrounding Gtk. I am sometimes seen as 'theGtknerd'. On 02/06/2019 06:46 AM, Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-devel-list wrote: The GTK project would have various sub-topics, mostly

Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-list
[Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to gtk-devel-list] As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the current mailman installation to Discourse: https://discourse.org/

Moving from mailing lists to Discourse

2019-02-06 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via gtk-app-devel-list
[Cross-posted to various relevant mailing lists; please, reply to gtk-devel-list] As part of an attempt at making GTK more friendly to newcomers, I and other core developers were thinking of moving the mailing lists from the current mailman installation to Discourse: https://discourse.org/