Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread David Nečas
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 06:17:15AM +0100, Joost wrote: I've used TK with tcl 1995-1999 writing software to handle plain TeX on Linux. And nearly every Python programmer is using it in the Tkinter form, when making the first steps in Python I've yet to see a Python programmer using Tkinter. On

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Gtk+ development is not done on this list. Oh no, you let out the secret. Now the s/n ratio will drop on lists that developers actually read. --tml ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread David Nečas
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 11:17:25AM +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Gtk+ development is not done on this list. Oh no, you let out the secret. Now the s/n ratio will drop on lists that developers actually read. Well, maybe I should say that Gtk+ development is in fact done on alt.sex.spanking

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread Joost
That is not only your planet. There are also that folks, who run youtube, there is Zope (where Mr. van Rossum worked), there are the (unknown for me) systems, for which the reporting tools of www.reportlabs.com are made for. Or slqalchemy - also only useful in large projects. My OKamba is

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread David Nečas
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:13:05PM +0100, Joost wrote: There are also that folks, who run youtube, there is Zope (where Mr. van Rossum worked), there are the (unknown for me) systems, for which the reporting tools of www.reportlabs.com are made for. Or slqalchemy - also only useful in large

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread Joost
My planet is so much worse and more aggressive, that i see no legitimation for any cease to speak of ... from you. After all that tries to exclude my from mankind. And what has to be in the buglist, what on the developer list and so on, lies not in your hands.

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Pearce
Hi David, On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:04:27 +0100 you wrote: I've yet to see a Python programmer using Tkinter. Oooh! Ooooh! Sir! Sir! http://lintrain.sourceforge.net http://www.livewires.org.uk/python And I could name others. TkInter is not dead. However, that shouldn't detract from the

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-03-01 Thread Leon Opit
Gentlemen, Please, enough. This type of debate is not the purpose of this list. Consider also your cultural biases and the misunderstanding of tone and intent that they may cause. Leon Opit On 2 March 2010 03:02, Robert Pearce r...@bdt-home.demon.co.uk wrote: Hi David, On Mon, 1 Mar 2010

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-28 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, 1...@depikt.net wrote: Yes - there are maintainance problems with gtk+ - serious maintainance problems. let me attempt to rephrase for you: During the development of our application, we have found that our designs seem to require features in GTK that are

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-28 Thread Joost
Hm - not fully. I've used TK with tcl 1995-1999 writing software to handle plain TeX on Linux. And nearly every Python programmer is using it in the Tkinter form, when making the first steps in Python (which by its readability is well fit to large projects - far more than a better tcl or php). I

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-23 Thread Joost
This here (the middle paragraph) had been cut by a bug anywhere - it is in the version in my Sent folder. I send it a second time from Thunderbird - perhaps i must search for another email client than Thunderbird, Sylpheed or Pegasus) And i had found it somewhere on library.gnome.org - yes it is

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
That is a sure way to loose the battle against QT. People who like Qt (not QT) use that if they have a choice, people who like GTK+ use that if they have a choice. Where is the battle? --tml ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-23 Thread Tor Lillqvist
That is a sure way to loose the battle against QT. People who like Qt (not QT) use it if they have a choice, people who like GTK+ use it if they have a choice. Where is the battle? --tml ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-23 Thread 1
Hello Thor, after this mishap probably caused by Pegasus (or a misconfiguration by me - but so far i never heard from problems other addressees had) i'll use my ISP's webmailer for this mailbox for a while. Battle was an adoption from wikipedia's browser war - a bit superficial of course. But

Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-17 Thread Joost
Hello, this will be a long text. Parts of it have been circulated in my brain since many months - i must do this. Please keep in mind, that i do not want to offend anyone, my username viciousdog on sourceforge is nothing else than a warning. python/gtk/sqlite has been chosen as the (virtualized)

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-17 Thread Joost
This here (the middle paragraph had been cut by a bug anywhere - it is in the version in my Sent folder) And i had found it somewhere on library.gnome.org - yes it is documented. But not at the prominent place, where it has to. This must be in one of the first  paragraphs on .rc files everywhere.

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-17 Thread Ed James
Joost, and others, I tried learning to use gtk, gdk, cairo, pango, etc several years ago and was frustrated by the difficulty in getting good docs, sample code, etc. Even worse was finding that constant change meant me having to rewrite code fairly often. Note that I'm an old guy who has

Re: Remarks on gtk docs

2010-02-17 Thread Russell Shaw
Ed James wrote: Joost, and others, I tried learning to use gtk, gdk, cairo, pango, etc several years ago and was frustrated by the difficulty in getting good docs, sample code, etc. Even worse was finding that constant change meant me having to rewrite code fairly often. Note that I'm an