To Everyone:
I sincerely apologize for turning this into a soap opera.
One of our volunteers is also a volunteer at the Concord (Mass) Historical
Society. And although we don't really have a formal policy regarding
dissemination, they do, and it's VERY strict due in part to their large
Okay, the photos are back up -- I have permission now! And I apologize again
for making you all part of my personal drama.
Since these photos are the first ever taken of our new shelving, I was asked if
they could be included in the Annual Report (!).
Life is... interesting.
Dede
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Posted with permission. :-)
-Dede
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I wonder if they might be for women who are breastfeeding? You could have
access quickly, which was necessary for me, and also modesty. What do you think?
Angelique
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Definitely not a clothing expert, either, but it certainly makes sense to me.
Consultants far wiser than I have documented them as garments specifically worn
by women.
Link: www.flickr.com/photos/workroombuttons/sets/72157627724105088/detail
Dede
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Angelique Carlson
I agree that these look like men's shirts, with the exception perhaps
of the one with the neck ruffle.
That one looks like a habit shirt as described briefly by the
Cunningtons in the History of Underclothes. That would put it in the
early 1820s, IIRC, at any rate the high fashionable waist could
This won't be very helpful, but...
The sacques are all roughly the same size as the dress bodices from the same
period. Men's shirts from the same period are measurably larger. Since
everything is from one family, one could assume that the sacques were worn by
the Reed ladies.
Link:
My immediate reaction to the pictures (thanks!!!), was... hmm, look at the
discolorations, maybe hard-used... reminds me of the idea of a pinafore or
apron, for the top half of the body!
I had descriptions from both grandmothers, I think, of their childhood
wardrobes, of one dress for
I think that if they were adult pinafores or aprons they would close in the
back, not the front. An apron opened down the front wouldn't be much
protection to clothing, I would think.
Other than that, I can't give any insights to what you have.
LynnD
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Patricia
Hi,
I have been trying to get into this site so that I could check things out, I
have asked several of my friends and no one seems to know who the person is,
except, I did get a little blurb it is one of the people who create Costumes
for Simplicitybut I have not heard anything validation on
Looks to me like a couple of different types of garments, perhaps. The
perfectly plain one certainly looks like a man's shirt, except that front
opening. But the one with the ruffled neck also has a lace or sheer ruffle on
the sleeves, correct? Which suggests a morning jacket, or whatever
In a message dated 9/22/2011 2:28:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rubin.lau...@gmail.com writes:
I agree that these look like men's shirts, with the exception perhaps
of the one with the neck ruffle.
That one looks like a habit shirt as described briefly by the
Cunningtons in the History
Oh, and knowing how they were cut might (or might not) be instructive--that
is, underarm gussets, made in one piece from front to back, sleeves were
straight pieces gathered in, neck gussets?
Ann Wass
In a message dated 9/22/2011 2:28:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
I am getting a screen that informs me the site is down for maintenance, to wit:
Maintenance Mode
Historical Clothing Patterns is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance.
Please try back in 2 days, 4 hours, and 16 minutes
(on September 25, 2011 at 12:58 am).
Sorry for the
pattern arrived today. looks like the principle is basically building in an
up-turn with shaped parts of a yoke, from which various front and back panels
depend in the center, and the sleeve panels of the cape are attached to the
points.
So, as long as you can pull up the web-page, and the
I tried Goggling the site and got a number of hits; you can view
single pages by clicking the link for a cached version of the page,
but if you try any of the links ON the pages you get the Site under
construction message. I did see they've got a sketch of Mina's
pretty green walking dress from
I bought the discontinued Simplicity 2529 both for the Yule outfit and
just to have it, because though I would probably never use it as
is you never know, just as you said, when some interesting chance
might arise! :)
Now to have fun with muslin, trying to get that peak into the top of a
sleeve
Margo from Margo's Pattern asked the same thing a couple of weeks ago.
Best we could tell they are a Hollywood film costume recreator, here is
their FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Historical-Clothing-Patterns/
Franchesca
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