No, that's not what I'm thinking of, although it is a similar but less
exaggerated style. This is much more like it:
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/arth214_folder/mary_of_burgundy.h
tml
I hope that comes through all right. Shorten the hennin and starch the lower
veil until it's a
Sharon wrote:
A Knight's Tale is a great example. I don't know much about the period,
but most of the costumes seemed okay. Except for the female lead. She stuck
out like a sore thumb. I especially remember the hat that looked like
something from Breakfast at Tiffany's.
Actually, Sharon,
If this doesn't take you there go to
http://www.bl.uk/ and search for holy family at work
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I'm sure there is more symbolism in that painting than you could shake a
stick at ... and I'd be interested in the whole story (off list) but if I
could only have one explanation, I'd like to
Cat Devereaux wrote:
Second season (warning this sounds like a commercial and didn't look up to
see what years it really is): The second season will be even juicier than
the first as we get into the infamous marriage of Henry VIII to Anne Boleyn,
the birth of their daughter Elizabeth (who
For some reason I got an email yesterday from the film company that makes or
distributes The Tudors, which was discussed here. (I don't get cable so
I've never seen it). Apparently they think I might like to become a stock
holder! Anyway, the headline of the email was that The Tudors will have a
Is that Gold Diggers movie the one with the neon violins? I love that one!
Irene Castle wrote a book called My Husband, which I once read. She came
across as a real pain in the neck! But of course she wrote about him as a
saint. I love the Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers movie about them. It has one
on 3/21/07 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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For 3 3/4 yd of 45 wide fabric, particularly in dark gold silk noil,
consider this:
http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gentiles/orazio/luteplay.html
I once did this out of two wool scraps that totaled about 2 1/2
on 3/15/07 10:18 AM, melanie wrote:
I have a color version of this, and it's actually little quatrefoils
with pearls in the middle--you can see my reconstruction of the stomacher at
http://www.faucet.net/costume/period/brown.html
(scroll down to see a closeup)
Oh, thanks for posting that!
on saragrace wrote:
Here are a few pics from the Phoenix Art Museum talk I did last week. Still
tweaking the CSS style sheets so bear with me! I'll be updating some of the
details for the diary now that I have time .
http://saragrace.us/images/GoldenAge/Actuals/Event/index.htm
Oops! I could say that I only caught a glimpse of the little guy, so I
mistook him for a girl, but that would be a fib. My modern bias was
showing...
Gail Finke
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Is it on DVD? I don't have cable. I'll watch if the story is good, unless
the costumes are awful.
Did anyone catch the new Dracula, which was just on here (probably last
year's BBC season). I saw about five minutes and couldn't take it after
Lucy's new husband left the wedding to perform some
Monica wrote:
The pattern companies changed their specs in the middle 60s.
FWIW--Sizes as we know them are not accurate since there is no real
standard. Most companies have their dress form made to their own specs--
Target. Kmart and JCPenneys have them. Others probably do too. It gets
I don't know what is supposed to look stupid here. I like the tabs. And I
like the ones that don't match better than the ones that do -- the matchy
ones look costumey to me and the random ones look more real.
Oh well, I may be tacky but I guess I'm period!
Gail Finke
Jean wrote:
I know there are linguistic studies that aim to show the cognitive
importance, if you like, of different colours by the order in which
languages develop them. You have to work on words for colours that are
not linked to the description of an object - orange or aubergine, for
I din't know anything about the Color Association, but I'm very familiar
witht the Color Marketing Group. They are a hilarious bunch who call
themselves forecasters. They claim to go around the world forecasting
color trends. Well, they DO go around thew world, it's the forecasting they
claim .
I haven't seen either of these movies discussed, so here goes.
Today we took our kids to see Night at the Museum. Lots of fun costumes --
at night all the characters in the museum come to life, so there are
costumes from all eras and cultures. Because they are museum mannequins come
to life,
on 12/24/06 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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On a Mary Magdalene list, we've been discussing paintings where she
looks pregnant. Of considerable discussion is this one:
http://www.abcgallery.com/W/weyden/weyden37.html
From what I remember of Robin's Gothic Fitted
on 12/24/06 12:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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The wonderful examples E House cited show what I mean about the painting of
the Magdalene having a normal stomach. They all have it, and apparently at
that time it was not considered attractive to have flat abs. This one in
Bjarne:
I agree that the stays look too high in the photo you posted. Could it be a
poor photo? If the lady says they fit, perhaps they really do. But that is a
beautiful thing you made! And your sketches of the gown are charming. I
didn't know you did such lovely sketches, you should sell
Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
In defence of this company in particular the example we've been discussing
is in their custom made section, so presumably it's a customer's design not
their own. Their readymade stuff looks fairly good as does most of their
custom made stuff, and they do describe the
I have Internet Explorer, and it doesn't work for me either.
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I remember posts about lead salts or something being used to weight silk
in, I think, the 1890s. I don't remember whether they are harmful to people
wearing them or to the fabric itself (causing it to disintegrate). But I
would search the archives for that one.
Gail Finke
I'm just finishing up a dress for my daughter. It's Italian ren, about 1490.
I'd like to turn it in as an arts project but I know the judges will hassle me
about using linen. I've been told that linen was only for undergarments and
wasn't used for outer garments. Can any of you help me
on 10/7/06 1:41 PM, Suzi wrote:
Watts and Co is very, very expensive. http://www.mperkins.com/ has
similar fabric but is much less expesive. I use hisa fabric a lot.
Thanks for posting that site! I really enjoyed it, and even with my slow
internet connection the pictures came up right away. I
Boy, is that a show of extreme clothes! Some of the outfits are lovely, and
some of them are HIDEOUS. And some non-existent... we call the woman who
dances with Joey Naked Girl at our house, because her clothes are little
wisps of things, and (to my mind) not attractive in any way.
The results
on 9/24/06 9:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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**That Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered -- that is, the one with
Mel Gibson supposedly portraying William Wallace.
Oh, I thought you meant the one with what's-his-name from Dances with
Wolves about Robin Hood. That's the
Yesterday my 9-year-old son was fascinated by a television program based on
the Gospel of John that he found when flipping around stations. I don't know
what it was called or who made it (although all the actors were British, I
guess that's a clue). It was on a religious station, but one that is
MaggiRos:
I don't have those Book of Hours illustrations handy, and I have never used
that pattern... the reason being that I have never liked the fit in the
made-up ones I've seen.
How closely fit is the one on Miss June? I have had very good success with
a method I made up in a fit of
Lovely as it may seem now, aesthetic dress was considered strange and
subversive at the time. Gilbert and Sullivan had a great show (I have never
seen it, unfortunately) about the aesthetic movement -- Patience; or,
Bunthorne's Bride. The heroine is a young girl who thinks she can't be in
love
I read recently that studies have shown that men, despite fads in
different clothes and body types, steadily prefer women who had a
waist-to-hip ratio 70%. The book said that whatever the shape or age of the
woman (they used photos to test this) men consistently rate the ones with
the hourglass
Zuzana wrote:
Well, I make a larger distance between the holes, at least 1inch, so if I
started marking the holes from the top to the bottom, in the bottom there
might be an either too small or too large distance from the center front seam.
That wouldn't, I guess, look very good. So that's
Well, IMHO most of the programs on The History Channel are pretty bad. They
really make me appreciate PBS! Back when we got cable, my husband and I used
to call THC The poor man's PBS -- not because it was cheaper to get, which
it isn't because you have to pay for THC and PBS is free, but because
Sylvia:
I don't know anything about the costume business, but I am a business owner.
The first thing you should do is find out if there is a trade association
for costume businesses, and contact them for information about trade
practices and business valuation. If there isn't, there must be one
I just watched the 1994 film The Shadow with my kids. An enjoyable movie
-- although Penelope Ann Miller focuses on looking gorgeous rather than
acting -- and fabulous 1930s costumes and sets.
P.A.M. as Margot Lane had a small but amazing wardrobe. My 9-year-old son
thought she looked awful! Ha
Kate wrote:
That's nothing...in Ohio, I can visit London, Paris, Cairo, Lima, Toledo and
Mantua in a day. Of course, some of them are pronounced oddly; Mantua is
Man-ta-way; Lima is Ly-ma like the bean. Cairo and Paris are just wide
spots in the road.
Don't forget Cambridge and Oxford!
Gail
The local Joannes here closed in March (wah! not the best fabric but at
least it was close), along with another one in the city. Now there are only
two left, the nearest about 1/2 hour away. But at least there is a fairly
close Hancocks -- or so I thought. It's looking quite lean there, though
??? I don't understand the problem here. I can knit and crochet (and quilt
and embroider), and I could both knit and crochet when I was a child. My
grandmother taught me -- my mother taught me to hook rugs and needlepoint
and cross stitch. This was long after polio, but I was a crafty kid (I also
The word cordwainer comes from cordovan leather, so it at least implies
making shoes out of leather. I don't know what a person who makes chopines
is called, but I did like chopinero!
GAail Finke
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Penny:
You missed a wonderful museum if you missed the art museum! Two years ago on
a family trip we stopped to see the mansion on the free day (Monday, BTW),
and on the way out I took a peep in the museum -- WOW! Look straight in the
door and there is a GIGANTIC Rubens that just knocks your
Sharon wrote:
Now, admittedly, it would help a lot with this if movie makers would
stop lying to their audiences by making false claims about the
accuracy of their films. Personally, I'm not holding my breath on
this, as unscrupulous movie makers show no signs of giving up lying
about this
Sharon wrote:
So anachronism, especially deliberate anachronism, in movies is fine
with me as long as the movie isn't trying to fool people into
believing it isn't anachronism -- I'll take A Knight's Tale and
Shakespeare In Love over Elizabeth or That Film Whose Name Shall Not
Be Uttered
Sharon wrote:
No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film.
I always thought The Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered was the one with
the title ending Prince of Thieves.
Around here, anyway.
Sorry if I caused any palpitations by writing even that much of it--
Gail Finke
Sue wrote:
Oh, mansuddenly, I'm overcome with the memory of watching a particular
Carol Burnett sketch, many years ago
(For those of you on other shores who may not be familiar with her, Carol is
an *amazingly funny* American comedian, who used to have a sort of variety
show on t.v.,
Derdere:
It looks great in the photo. Also, although I don't read Dutch, I had no
trouble following the site and understanding what you did.
I do have one practical question. The silk you used seems to be very light.
Do you think that the bliauts of the time were made of such light silk?
Would
Bjarne:
I don't know if that was a correct construction or not, but wow!!! It is
gorgeous. And I love the giant jeweled buttons on the coat.
Gail Finke
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It does stay in the body, that's how they test for it. I read a murder
mystery once based on the idea that if you feed someone small bits of
arsenic every day, they die if you withhold it! I don't know if that one is
true or not.
Gail Finke
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In latin: (for those who don't trust translations :-)
Femoralia hi qui in via diriguntur de vestario
accipiant, quae revertentes lota ibi restituant. Et
cucullae et tunicae sint aliquanto a solio quas habent
modice meliores; quas exeuntes in via accipiant de
vestario et revertentes
My family is mostly Irish, though you can't tell by my name. My brother and
I don't look very Irish, but my father's family certainly does. I grew up in
Pittsburgh, where there is a very large Polish population. So we always fit
in pretty well with the short, dark-haired Poles.
Now I live in
Bjarne:
These pictures are lovely, and how nice to see so many of you! I am curious
about the event. Are you all in the same Society? How do you know each
other? Are you from different countries, and if so what language(s) do you
speak when you are all together?
That military uniform (I think
Bjarne:
Wow! 100% silk! It looks so good in the pictures, it must have been amazing
in real life. What a wonderful time you must have had.
If I ever recreated that time period, I would have to be a servant! I would
want everything to be perfect, not just like the real thing. But I think I
could
Elena House wrote:
The whole garment is a solution to a specific body-shaping problem; a
problem which has been solved in different ways over the centuries, and
which must be solved in different ways the desired body shape changes over
time. In the 13thC, the solution was breast-wrapping;
Janet wrote:
While my S.O. was wearing knee length t-tunics before I ever met him, he won't
wear hose on a bet. However, weight gain plus an unwillingness to buy new
clothes made me realize that, as long as his footwear covers the ankle,
sweatpants in a size or two too small make a good
It may be cheaper to buy clothes at Walmart than it is to make them, but not
everyone shops at Walmart. Political discussions aside -- there are plenty
of other places to buy clothes, and some of them cost big bucks. You can
make a Vogue garment for a lot less than it costs to buy some clothes,
I am watching plain old NBC, so I haven't seen any curling. But the ice
dancing costumes are hilarious! Some of them seem to have things stuck all
over them. Some of the women's costumes are cut away in very strange
places. Last night I came in the middle of one team with very nice costumes
-- I
Boy, I would love to see some good Gilbert and Sullivan DVDs. I love the
operettas, but all the recordings are so... blah. Years ago, when the BBC
did them all, my Public Television station broadcast them -- and only The
Mikado was worth watching. How anyone can drain the sparkling energy from a
Becky wrote:
Try watching the latest series on HBO or Cimemax, Called Ceasar. It's great.
It portrays all the nasty things people think but pretend don't happen in
society. Just proves that nothing is new, even sexual orientation,
seduction, powergrabs and political arrangements through sex.
Bjarne wrote:
Kids dont want to play with brigs anymore, they want to play on computers.
Company didnt realise this and almost broke now!
Tell that to my kids! We have a cabinet full of Lego bricks. And we also get
the bimonthly Lego magazine. And we also have the Lego Star Wars GameCube
game.
It looks like morse is the correct term. I contacted a vestment company and
they wrote back to me: I don't know, how about cope closure? Ha ha.
Gail
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Katy posted:
http://www.lespetitesdamesdemode.com/
Wow! Those are amazing. It says on the site that John Burbridge is the
senior designer for Priscilla of Boston, a wedding gown company. That is the
kind of historically inspired design that I, as a consumer, appreciate.
(Although I could
Bjarne wrote:
I know i should have praktised a little more, but even i can embroider on a
long time projekt, my nerves cant hold to waite to make the dolls myself,
till they gets pretty enough for me. I am only human and i have many limits.
I had to give up knitting stockings for reenacting two,
Blech! The little bits of costume that I could see all look awful. And Tara
Fitzgerald, to me, has never looked anything but twentieth-century no matter
what she's wearing.
At least we finally know the answer to what happens to costume design --
they do tons of research and then cast it all
Caroline wrote:
If you are pregnant or breastfeeding you are unlikely to have monthly
cycles. Admitted women who are not sexually active won't be pregnant much
but once you take nuns out of the equasion most women wouldn't need sanitary
protection much during their life.
This is not exactly
Nancy:
If I recall my Louisa May Alcott years correctly, a turned dress was one
that had been taken apart and put back together with the fabric that used to
be on the inside now on the outside, so that it did not look as worn or
stained. So I guess a twice-turned dress was on that had been taken
Penny:
Thanks for that long and detailed explanation. It makes perfect sense that,
if your user's primary goal is to get an idea of what the clothes and trims
looked like, you would fix up the old engravings rather than redraw them.
It's just a different emphasis. I know only a little bit about
Penny:
Thanks for sharing all your thoughts about how and why you do so much to
your materials. I know what you mean about pages in Acrobat -- they can be a
real bear to read, and personally I never touch anything on a website that
has to be read in Acrobat, if I can possibly help it.
But I do
Has anyone seen the book Memling's Portraits? It's a catalogue of an
exhibit at the Frick Museum, which I just heard about today. Today is the
last day of the show, which is a traveling exhibit of 30 Memling portraits
making its only US stop. The Frick's website lists the book in its shop
My husband has numerous gambesons/jacks/arming coats/whatever you want to
call them. I am not a fan of the Period Patterns pattern, but it works and
looks fine, and is a good place to start if you don't want to draft a
pattern. My husband likes a much more fitted look, more like the Charles le
Our art museum sells quite a bit of their products. I bought my brother a
Freudian Sips coffee mug and a Freud finger puppet -- he comes with a couch
finger puppet, which has a pop-up lady's head (for the patient's mother, who
of course is behind all mental problems). My brother and his wife are
Okay, so who saw The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe this weekend???
The kids' 40s costumes looked good to me. The king and queen costumes at the
end -- blech. There was a lot of great armour, and some really beautiful
tents. Susan's first Narnia dress was particularly nice, the other kids'
michael tartaglio wrote:
Hi, All. I just saw a telly program on a fellow from Pennsylvania (US)
that is the guru for used fabrics. He started out by convincing the mill
that he worked at that they should give him the scraps they would throw
out. Now folks send him stuff and he sends it out
I echo everyone else's suggestions about places to donate fabric you can't
use. But don't forget -- if it's really fabric that NO ONE wants (or, for
that matter, ripped old clothes and things like that) then both Goodwill and
the Salvation Army sell fabric scrap. So never throw anything fabric
Bjarne:
Those sleeves are so perfectly sweet! I wish that just once in my life I
could wear such a beautiful thing.
Gail Finke
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My favorite is Miracle on 34th Street, although this year I am revisiting
my childhood and watching all my favorite holiday specials with my children,
who are really enjoying them. Last night was Santa Claus is Coming to
Town. Earlier this week it was Rudolf. And coming up are Frosty, A
Charlie
Clothes pins were invented by the Shakers in America. Or so they claim. One
of their many cool and designy contibutions. I guess that would have been in
the early 1800s.
Gail Finke
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My newspaper today gave a little blurb about all the upcoming films, and
said that the new Pocahontas movie was about the doomed love between John
Smith and Pocahontas. Sigh. And of course the BIG film coming up is
Memoirs of a Geisha, which screwed up the portrayal of the way geisha
behaved so
AlbertCat wrote:
So what's you're point?
My point is exactly what I said: If you're going to do a rare performance
but do it in an unusual style, then tell people. That way people know what
they're getting into.
I, personally, don't like bizarre and modern costumes. But if I know I am
going
I don't think I've EVER seen a Shakespear play (and I've seen a lot of them)
done in Elizabethan costume. No wait -- I've seen one. I've seen a lot of
wonderful productions set in many different times. That goes for other old
plays and operas too.
But Bjarne asked about modern and artistic
Come on guys, Pottery Barn isn't all that it's cracked up to be, unless you
like pretty but overpriced things. Now I am lucky in that there is a Pottery
Barn factory outlet about an hour and half away. Most of the stuff is STILL
overpriced, even the damaged stuff. But if you're not picky they
Okay, I know what leg o'mutton sleeves are, but I was under the impression
that these were something different. Can't say why, exactly. But I thought
this was a little girl's style or variation of some kind, not a generic
1890s style. Am I totally off-base?
Gail Finke
I heard a bit on the radio today about a web site for a fantasy fashion
league, like fantasy football and fantasy baseball, but for fashion
fans. It's way too big for my dial-up connection, but it sounded funny.
There's a fee, and I missed what the teams actually do, but they seem to
be competing
Cathy Raymond wrote:
Interesting. The Benetton store near my office in Philadelphia does have
ladies' dress jackets, though that may simply be an accommodation to the
American market.
I was talking about their first attempt at American stores. I don't know
what they have now.
I have
Kimiko wrote:
Read _The Cult of Elizabeth_ by Roy Strong (isbn 0-7126-6481-5)
That's exactly what Strong suggests was done, since the Catholic faith was
no longer the state faith. It's a lot more complicated it would seem than
that, but Elizabeth became an icon for her people. It just didn't
Penny wrote:
We want everything fast and then throw it away in a short
amount of time. We are all guilty of throw it away instead of repairing
products. Mass production makes it so much cheaper to purchase a new
product instead of repairing.
This is not true in Europe, or at least it
Julie wrote:
Remember bell bottoms?
A co-worker of mine swears that they are back, but I can't find any. I was
at the Chicago Gap store last week, and they certainly didn't have any
there. Darn. I love bellbottoms!
Gail Finke
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Oh, that was a fun part. And how about when Elizabeth was shot at while in
her boat on a party on the river, and no one bothered to look for who did
it? As a Catholic, of course I was bemused by the very idea of Elizabeth
wearing white makeup and deciding never to marry in order to give England a
T-shirts and jeans. After centuries of even peasant and workman's wear being
somewhat formal to our taste (think of barbers, printers, and butchers in
the late 1800s and early 1900s with white shirts, jackets, and ties), these
garments became nearly universal in the west, with all sorts of fancy
Kate Pinner wrote:
1822 -- Clement Moore -- A Visit From Saint
Nicholas.
This supposedly gave us the first picture of how he
was dressed (a
picture
in words). The newspaper/magazine artists took it from
there.
But the poem says He was dressed all in fur from his head to his foot/And
his
I don't see any recent posts, so I wanted to tell everyone who read Penny's
long email yesterday that at 6 pm ABC News did a short piece on the town
named for her ancestor, Pass Christian. Penny said that no one had been able
to get to it and that it wasn't the sort of place that was shown on
I haven't seen the film, but I actually do know someone who read the whole
book. She liked it.
Gail Finke
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Fran wrote:
Encouraging--did she read the full or the abridged (a mere 700 pages)
edition?
The whole thing, baby!!
Gail Finke
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on 8/1/05 11:49 PM, kahlara wrote:
I also have a question about linens - specifically the blended and synthetic
ones. What sort of successes/failures have been experienced with these
fabrics? The local Joann's often has them in 'suit weight' for less than $2.00
a yard and I was thinking this
The first time I went to London, my parents insisted that I promise to see
the Crown Jewels. Not much interested in jewelry, I balked -- but then I
figured I was going to the Tower anyway, so why not?
Go. See the Crown Jewels. They are unbelievable, and this from (again)
someone not much
Does anyone else find a man in a well-fitted suit drop-dead sexy? Rarr!
Oh my, yes! For our wedding 17 years ago, all the men in the party wore
pearl gray tailcoats. I loved the color at the time, though it is very dated
now. As someone who loves historic costume, that doesn't bother me.
Here's what I do to get veils to stay in place.
I have a little square white cloth which I fold in half to make a sort of
kerchief. On the corners, I sewed white ties. This looks like the kind of
little fashionable scarves or kerchiefs teen girls wear. I suppose you could
use one of those, but
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