Re: [h-cost] unsubscribing

As someone mentioned earlier, you have to use https://indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume and not the link that appears at the bottom of the messages. Does unsubscribing from this page not work? There seems to be hardly any traffic on the list anyway - all gone to social media, I suppose. Kate

Re: [h-cost] Help in dating an image

Lia, Can you give us a clue as to the general period the image is from? Is it a photograph, or something earlier? Kate Bunting Retired librarian & 17th century reenactor On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Hansen, Lia <lia.han...@vanguard.edu> wrote: > Subject: Help in dating an

Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace"

I wasn't snarking, merely asking for information. I thought the bare shoulders were wrong for the period, even as "extreme" fashion, and wanted to confirm my opinion. Kate Bunting On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Lavolta Press <f...@lavoltapress.com> wrote: > Oh sure, I just d

[h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace"

least two examples of evening gowns in this style as well as some with narrow shoulder straps which seemed jarringly modern to me. Kate Bunting ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Who's still here? & smock question

Hi, Susan, I take it you mean the agricultural worker's smock? (Smock was also used as a synonym for a woman's shift or chemise.) I've never heard of the outer garment being worn by women. Kate Bunting On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Susan <scour...@nwlink.com> wrote: > Hi all, &g

Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?

I'm still here too. I don't do much sewing but am still involved in historical reenactment. Kate Bunting On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond < ca...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > On 12/17/2015 09:38 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: > >> I have been getting the mont

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 13, Issue 85

lining to their clothes. A man's shirt counted as underclothing and a woman wore a shift/chemise with the same function. These would go in the laundry, and the outer clothes would merely be brushed/sponged to remove mud splashes etc. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. On Wed, Oct

[h-cost] The shape of Chardin's girl with shuttlecock

Marie Hebbie wrote: Kate Bunting commented that you wear 17 century garb #8211; can you achieve the same shape today as our shuttlecock girl? Dear Marie, No, I don't think I could achieve that shape. I've only once worn a pair of 18th century stays, many years ago. The 17th century costumes I

[h-cost] re wardrobe size, middle class

on the knees of his trousers; he hasn't changed them or put on overalls. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] The shape of Chardin's girl with shuttlecock

the effect a little to suit contemporary taste, in the same way that modern fashion illustrators draw women with very long legs. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric

, the spelling is KNECHT (related to the English word knight which originally meant a manservant, then a military follower). Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman

Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question

Seventeenth-Century Women's Dress Patterns ed. North Tiramani shows a chemise with all cut edges hemmed before the pieces are sewn together. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http

Re: [h-cost] 1933 hat help - French magazine pattern

my dictionary correctly. Batissez-la - literally build it - i.e. stitch it? Du sens oppose a la premiere = in the opposite direction to the first. Surely you are meant to bring points E and E' together? Hope this helps, Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Police Bonnet It's

Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?

and can't find the thread giving the swimsuit explanation, but Wikipedia agrees with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater_vest Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http

Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?

. I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Regency era beard

in the mid-19th century. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Edwardian School Attire Question

-br750.html for a modern version). I remember them from my childhood, I also remember my father (b. 1907) saying that he wore one as a boy. So maybe these evolved from the scarf mentioned in 1907? Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h

Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians

of later periods extend below the waist, increasing the problem. Having once worn an 18th century corset, I've often wondered how the lady singers of Handel's time managed. Of course, as Maggie says, they were used to it. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th-century reenactor

[h-cost] 1919 hairstyle

in in the '20s, wouldn't women have put their hair up? Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Modern hairstyles, was The White Queen

thick and heavy that hairspray wouldn't have much effect, but I cover my fringe (bangs) with a forehead cloth worn under my coif. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http

[h-cost] The White Queen

is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century

Re: [h-cost] Pride and Prejudice: Having a Ball

I saw this on TV and very much enjoyed it. Would have liked to see a bit more of the musicians, but as it was they managed to include a lot of interesting stuff. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK

Re: [h-cost] Children's fashions

that (a) most clothes are easily washable, and (b) adults are wearing casual styles more of the time, I don't think there's an obvious difference between adult and children's styles. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK

Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

an extra four inches in the width (rather than the length). Don't know how correct that is. I think we were looking at an old photo of my dad in them. He was never a golfer, so the fashion must have been taken up for general wear. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK

Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern

nettle fibre, which I once had a try at hand-spinning. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic

[h-cost] Re: Sir Edmund Verney's gold doublet

has. Of course the fashionable look was to have the collar close up to the throat, but you never see the neckband uncovered in pictures to realise quite how high it was. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK

[h-cost] Polite request, was : Cotton stockings (was Amazon dry goods)

Could I remind people replying to messages from the Digest to kindly remember to delete the unwanted bits before sending? If you don't, it makes the digests very long and the new messages difficult to find among all the repetition. Many thanks, Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

[h-cost] Re: Hello again!

Hello, Sybella, The list is still active, but not as busy as it used to be. Teddy left a few years ago because his employer objected to his using his work email to subscribe, and a lot of the other old names seem to have disappeared. Glad to see you back! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century

[h-cost] Hair and Reenacting

hair. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you

[h-cost] Nottingham Textile Museum

is in Derbyshire, close to the M1 motorway, if Ginni's friend can travel that far. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right

Re: [h-cost] Interesting underwear find

. Any UK list members have access to this? Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email

Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn

How about this? http://www.traceyourdutchroots.com/art/zigeunermeisje.html ...which is from the right century! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email

[h-cost] OP - Pret-a-Papier, Isabelle de Borchagrave

is caught up like that? I thought that style was always worn with the pleats hanging straight down to the floor. This is where we need Bjarne! I love the blue 1908 dress. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

[h-cost] More on hard to find items at grocery stores

Sainsburys and they said there was no longer a demand. Luckily I found that there is a Chinese grocer's in Derby where I can get it. The supermarkets now sell cook-in sauces rather than the basic ingredients. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK

Re: [h-cost] Schoolboy's hat

Actually it's Hounslow (without the d). Not local to me, but it's a district of Greater London. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves

Re: [h-cost] 1968 boys' wear

I don't know about the USA, but when I was a child in the '50s British children's clothes were sized by age. Being of slight build, I wore sizes that were supposed to fit someone younger than I was! For Parisian apaches, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_(gang) Kate Bunting Librarian

Re: [h-cost] Scranton Lace Company History

years ago I had a summer job at a local factory which made synthetic yarns and wove or knitted them into fabric. There was an old man who operated a machine which cut the punched cards for making patterned fabric on Jacquard looms. Seeing the cards in the photos reminded me of him. Kate Bunting

Re: [h-cost] Not tying your bonnet strings?

say in your 3rd paragraph, I think before the mid-20th century everyone routinely wore a hat out of doors, even if they only had a very shabby one. We used to sew elastic to our school panama hats. Our winter hats were knitted caps, so keeping them on wasn't a problem. Kate Bunting Librarian

[h-cost] Re:Pink?

It's my understanding that the flower was named after the fabric treatment (because of its petals' jagged edges), and the colour after the flower. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has

[h-cost] (h-cost) Re: costume on book covers, argh

, in which the male figure had apparently been copied from a magazine photo of a reenactor and didn't even have the right hair colour. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy

Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)

VCR means video cassette recorder. Perhaps the writer had seen some historic garments described on a video? I thought that women began to wear drawers in the Regency period (in its broadest sense), when bulky petticoats ceased to be worn for 20 years or so. Am I wrong? Kate Bunting Librarian

Re: [h-cost] Dressing a Victorian lady

The person mentioned in the article who wondered about Georgian underwear - hasn't she heard of shifts? Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email

Re: [h-cost] Dressing a Victorian lady

...and, of course, before the 20th century if you were having an illicit affair and hadn't much time, you made love with most of your clothes on! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has

Re: [h-cost] Jaw Dropping: Final Price for Debbie Reynolds costumes

I saw a news report on the forthcoming sale on BBC breakfast news before I read the first discussion of it here (but I only get the list in digest form on my work computer). I think they just said that her plan to set up a museum had fallen through. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century

Re: [h-cost] 18th c. man's waistcoat on ebay

It's lovely, but someone has some crossed wires somewhere. It's the garment itself that dates from the time of Pitt the Younger, not the period when the last wearer is said to have been Speaker! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] 15th Year Anniversary--A shout out!

I can't remember exactly when I joined the list, but I do remember Penny starting up her website. Most of it is way after my main period of interest, but congratulations and thanks for the free access! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] 1620s jacket vs waistcoat

in the seventeenth century context as the loose, often fur-trimmed women's garments often seen in Dutch genre paintings, but I don't know if that's a period term. The heavily embroidered ones from earlier in the century are also described as jackets in the modern context. My two penn'orth, Kate Bunting

Re: [h-cost] Queen Maud's wardrobe

We had family friends in Norway (my father did military service there in the aftermath of WW2). I've heard it said that in later life Queen Maud used the public passenger ships to visit England and would sit in the lounge knitting. Kate Bunting Librarian 17c reenactor

Re: [h-cost] Fur trims

Mary Piero Carey wrote: On 12/4/2010 9:39 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: Political correctness has made it impossible to buy old fur coats in charity shops... Huh? Kate, where are you? The 2nd hand stores around here still sell fur sometimes the yard sales estate sales are rife with them. I

Re: [h-cost] Fur trims, was What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?

but haven't had time to do anything more yet. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email

Re: [h-cost] Italian Bolognaise style

of stating the obvious, have you tried using Advanced Search and asking it to exclude spaghetti recipes? Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email

Re: [h-cost] Words for clothes

Costume doesn't have the same ambiguity for British people, as we would call the sort of thing Americans wear at Hallowe'en fancy dress (though my late father, born in 1907, used to call a woman's suit a costume). In my re-enactment society we, too, call our period clothing kit. Kate Bunting

Re: [h-cost] OOPS - forgot subject line - Chemise pattern

heard a talk by Stuart Peachey, the British expert on the 17th century, and asked him a question about this. He confirmed the above statement. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. _ The University of Derby has

[h-cost] Stuart Peachey talk

shifts, which we have discussed here. Stuart confirmed that there was no evidence for these; the gathers were sewn to a neckband. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. _ The University of Derby has a published policy

[h-cost] [ h-cost] Tom Tierney, was Fashion crisis!

with a beaded edge - the beads pass OVER her arm. Looks very awkward to modern eyes, but I suppose you didn't have to do anything energetic in that kind of outfit! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University

Re: [h-cost] Victorian hair

my face. I did once style it like the young Queen Victoria, with plaits/braids looped round my ears and the back hair in a bun. Not much use for the lady who wanted 1880s styles, though. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has

[h-cost] Dolly Varden, was Victorian gown?

with a warped sense of humor. But this pattern isn't one of them. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows Actually, Dolly Varden is a character in Dickens' Barnaby Rudge, a historical novel set in London in 1780, so just a little after what you would call colonial! The play must have been based on it. Kate Bunting

Re: [h-cost] What is this woman making?

seen a Norwegian lady knitting in that position. As these ladies are presumably Swedish, I guess it's a Scandinavian technique. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you

Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost] Questions

as to project at the sides. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 37

column of that page, toward the bottom, long paragraph dated 1428. But I'm not! By virtual clipping I meant a reproduction of a section of the page not much more than an inch wide. Clicking on it had no effect. That explains it! Ah, well, never mind, it was only idle curiosity. Kate Bunting

Re: [h-cost] The term hennin

a reproduction of a section of the page not much more than an inch wide. Clicking on it had no effect. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email

[h-cost] Re: The term hennin

? Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email

[h-cost] Re: Mangle

.) Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please

Re: [h-cost] Asynchronous fashion photography

is the girl in her underwear wearing black lipstick, though? Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error

[h-cost] Colour names

Marjorie Wilser wrote : What color *IS* unburnt umber? My childhood paintbox also had raw umber (and raw and burnt Siena). I see raw umber is listed on the site that Fran recommended. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has

[h-cost] Current project

I'm making good progress (in what little spare time I have) with my 17th century jacket. The triangular gores worked out all right in the end - thanks to all those who sent me advice. Now I need to scour the charity shops for some fur to trim the edge with. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century

[h-cost] Quiet list?

Is it me, or has the list been very quiet lately? I've not received a digest for days... Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you

Re: [h-cost] 17c jacket sewing advice

Many thanks to everyone who sent advice on this (inserting triangular gores). I'll let you know how I get on. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email

[h-cost] 17c jacket sewing advice

to get the points of the gussets to fit neatly. I'm only working with the lining material as yet, and have only tacked the pieces together. Can anyone offer any advice before I start sewing properly? With thanks, Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] Another view of the back of a costume

Kneeling figures on tombs are another occasional source of back views. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please

Re: [h-cost] Holkeboer

Laurie Taylor wrote: Also, does anyone know if there's a connection between Katherine Strand-Evans and Katherine Strand Holkeboer? Just curious. According to the Library of Congress Authority File, they are the same person. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?

I don't own a dummy, but at the Sealed Knot's August Bank Holiday event at York I finally bought the woollen fabric to make the jacket I have been wanting for ages (to wear over my bodice when it's cold). Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] early 17th century stays and bodice

light boning in the bodice. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please

Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?

Melody Watts wrote: My mom's weddding dress was a Rettingcoat / Rettingote (sp) style dress with the under dress styled exactly like theirs. I think the word you want is Redingote, an 18th century (?) French word for a man's coat, which was a corruption of the English riding coat. Kate

Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions

wedding around 1969-70. As a (university) student in the early 70s, I was wearing full-length skirts. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic

Re: [h-cost] Question about a portrait

colour! As Elizabeth Walpole said, my first thought was that the Lady Jane Grey image must have been one of those from the Houses of Parliament. We had a discussion of a similar one of Mary Tudor a while back. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor Sharon Collier wrote: Don't judge

Re: [h-cost] Mascara advice

My advice would be to look for stuff that says it's suitable for contact lens wearers; that should be tear-proof. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor

Re: [h-cost] London's Hidden Gems

Not a London expert, but I do know that it's actually Bethnal Green. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor From: Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] London's Hidden Gems To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID

Re: [h-cost] Headkerchiefs

. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email

Re: [h-cost] 18th century Tricorn hats ....round heads...not!...maybe

I think they were designed to be worn straight. When I did 18th century re-enactment 30 years ago, we were told that soldiers' hats should be worn with the front point an inch above the left eyebrow. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor -- Message: 6 Date

[h-cost] Peacock wedding dress

I live). Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete

Re: [h-cost] Victorian corset on UK TV

, though! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete

[h-cost] Victorian corset on UK TV

to show how a lady couldn't dress herself; however, in close-up you could clearly see the hooks in the front that should have enabled her to do so! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back

I've learned something new from this thread; I didn't know that lobster back was an American term for British soldiers in the 18th century. In my century the idea of lobsters in a military context was associated with the hardness and segmented form of their shells, not their colour. Kate

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

, and the lobster be a reference to red coats as Ruth says. All sorts of headgear were worn during the redcoat era, but I guess this could refer to some kind of forage cap from the late 19th century. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor -- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10

Re: [h-cost] Stockings query

progress. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread?

My late aunt (born 1911) once saw me struggling with a knotted thread and told me that you should always thread the end that came off the spool. Since then I've always threaded my needle before cutting so as not to lose it. I still get knots, though! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century

[h-cost] Stockings query

In some sets of instructions for knitting period stockings, you are told to fold the heel flap in half. I'm a fairly experienced knitter, but I can't make sense of this. Can anyone advise? I assume it means to fold the flap edge-to-edge rather than to double it back on itself. Kate Bunting

[h-cost] Sharpe's Rifles

most of the Sharpe books and films are set!) Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

-13: 978-0333570821 Sometime back, this list discussed this new edition of Vecellio and it has been much anticipated. I catalogued a copy (of Vecellio) for the library last week. It's beautifully presented. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor

Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 384

of the leading ladies looks as though she is wearing a smock under her gown. Kate Bunting Cataloguing Data Quality Librarian, University of Derby ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] What to see in the UK

as Hardwick Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume