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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Collier
Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2009 9:37 AM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
I am looking for a picture or instructions for a late
...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Sagittarius Uisce Beatha
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:15 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
I'm going by what it looks like to me.
http://elizabethangeek.com/costumereview/images/13.jpg in that
picture the
back shape looks
http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Theophila.jpg
Now, that portrait of Theophilia is very interesting. It is hard to
tell from such a small bw repro, but doesn't it look as if the forehead
cloth is tied _over_ the coif? Look at what little we can see of her
hairline. Look at the corner
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Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:59 AM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com
, 2009 6:38 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
At 11:28 AM 27/05/2009, you wrote:
Late Elizabethan, when ladies' hair was often (in portraits, at least)
puffed at the front, and with a cap or something (hard to see because
of course, it's on the back
On May 27, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Sharon Collier wrote:
Thank you. Very interesting. Looks like what I want is a caul with a
decorated billiment. Does that sound like what they were wearing in
1570's?
A caul on its own is more likely. Billiments generally appeared on
the front of French
Try googling
Elizabethan geek
She's got a great website.
Arlys
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:37:18 -0700 Sharon Collier
sha...@collierfam.com writes:
I am looking for a picture or instructions for a late Elizabethan
headdress.
I do not want the French hood that covers the ears, rather I am
On May 27, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Sharon Collier wrote:
Thank you. Very interesting. Looks like what I want is a caul with a
decorated billiment. Does that sound like what they were wearing in 1570's?
Have you looked here yet?
http://www.extremecostuming.com/articles/howtowearthecoif.html
While I agree with Laura on how coifs were probably worn, there is
some debate about who would have worn them and under what
circumstances. In the 1570s, coifs were probably worn in public
mostly by the middle and lower classes, not by the upper and noble
classes. The very fancy ones
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
Here's a picture of Queen Elizabeth I (1575) wearing what I think you're
describing:
http://www.englandhistory.com/sections/government/Monarchs/ElizabethI.jpg
From my understanding, it's still essentially a french hood just a
smaller
look like.
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:11 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
While I agree with Laura on how coifs
[mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Alexandria Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:01 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
Just to make sure I understand this, there is a difference between coif and
caul, isn't there?
I've always thought
a french hood, or a decorated roll?
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Sagittarius Uisce Beatha
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:30 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
Here's
I think a caul would work with the later period french hood/billiment,
especially in the heat.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote:
I was going to make a caul, but was looking for something different to go
over/with it, hence the decorated
On May 27, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Alexandria Doyle wrote:
Just to make sure I understand this, there is a difference between
coif and caul, isn't there?
Yes. At least modern people make a distinction.
I've always thought the coif was the embroider (or not) little hat
item that covers the top,
It might be cooler, but if you are concerned with historical
accuracy, be aware that this is a modern hybrid and not a historical
style. What about putting a veil over it, as Elizabeth did?
Melanie Schuessler
On May 27, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Sagittarius Uisce Beatha wrote:
I think a caul
I'm going by what it looks like to me.
http://elizabethangeek.com/costumereview/images/13.jpg in that picture the
back shape looks like the QEI picture except this one covers the ears.
According to the site that you just linked me to, it says later period
french hoods are more often referred to as
On May 27, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Sagittarius Uisce Beatha wrote:
I'm going by what it looks like to me.
http://elizabethangeek.com/costumereview/images/13.jpg in that
picture the
back shape looks like the QEI picture except this one covers the ears.
According to the site that you just linked me
What would the veil be made of? Silk? Linen? And what color?
Sharon
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:51 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late
: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:15 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
I'm going by what it looks like to me.
http://elizabethangeek.com/costumereview/images/13.jpg in that picture the
back shape looks like the QEI picture except this one covers the ears.
According
I am looking for a picture or instructions for a late Elizabethan headdress.
I do not want the French hood that covers the ears, rather I am looking for
the fancy roll that sits further back on the head. I believe these were
attached to a caul, but I'm not sure. Any advice/ideas/pictures/links
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From: sha...@collierfam.com
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:37:18 -0700
Subject: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
I am looking for a picture or instructions for a late
...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Saragrace Knauf
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:08 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
When you say Late Elizabethan, what do you mean by time period? And do you
necessarily mean English? I have
At 11:28 AM 27/05/2009, you wrote:
Late Elizabethan, when ladies' hair was often (in portraits, at least)
puffed at the front, and with a cap or something (hard to see because of
course, it's on the back of the head). Often seemed to have quite a bit of
jewelling/fancy work.
Nothing in
Here's a picture of Queen Elizabeth I (1575) wearing what I think you're
describing:
http://www.englandhistory.com/sections/government/Monarchs/ElizabethI.jpg
From my understanding, it's still essentially a french hood just a smaller
version so all that can be seen of it is the crescent.
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 10:30:05 pm Sagittarius Uisce Beatha wrote:
Here's a picture of Queen Elizabeth I (1575) wearing what I think you're
http://www.elizabethancostume.net/headwear/frenchhood.html. If you scroll
to the bottom there's a paragraph about french hoods of the later period
that
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