[Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Ez-Aton wrote: time==money. Installing customizable setup means every desktop is to pass a whole series of adding/removing packages, according to the client's wishes. I did not say we are going to use custmizable setup (how on earth did you decide I said that from my

Re: [Haifux] InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Adir Abraham
We've already discussed most of the issues, but let's have a reminder. On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! I think that in future installation parties we should simply mandate that people who wish to install their systems will either: 1. Buy a set of CDs from us. They already

Re: [Haifux] [OT] merge/compare tools

2004-02-01 Thread Haim Cohen
Eclipse. Shachar Tal wrote: Hi all, I am working with an organization whose RD uses a crappy toolset for visual comparisons and merges for file versions. We feel the need to find a better one. The requirements are: * syntax parsing of C++/Java (e.g. tokenization is smarter than the avergate you

Re: [Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Shlomi Fish wrote: decide I said that from my message). I said we are going to use default/minimal setup and give them the CDs. The default should have many applications inside. We can't, and we shouldn't give the installee a minimal installation (unless we don't have

Re: [Haifux] InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Orr Dunkelman
I wonder what is the difference between you suggest and what happened in the last insta party? after all, they could buy CDs from us, bring their own CDs (and they were asked to inform us on weird distro's). About what to install -- every time we organize InstaParty, we sit and decide what

Re: [Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Oron Peled
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:18, Adir Abraham wrote: [a lot of valid points] ... You can conclude what happens with faster machines or those that include rich hardware features. I also assume that we'll have faster machines next year, so it will not take more than 40 minutes in average.

Re: [Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Oron Peled wrote: Just adjusting some over-optimism: installation is very I/O bounded, and disk speed is advancing very slow (comparing to Moore's law for CPU). I assume that we will see more HDs with ATA-133MHz and SATA (150MHz). I have no idea how many people will use

Re: [Haifux] InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Ori Idan
My few cents... I think we already discuessed the issue again and again so I don't know why we should continue. The issue of brining their own disks I think is something we should not encourage for several reasons. 1. A technical reason, what happens if they bring a bad disk? 2. The issue of

Re: [Haifux] Re: InstaParty Thought - Buy/Receive the CD or Bust

2004-02-01 Thread Ez-Aton
I agree. Next year, our installation server(s) will be faster, our network better designed, and, with lots of home, all our installers will be briefed before the event (unlike last party). I think it's crusial to the proccess. Also, splitting the are into two sections - one for the installation

[Haifux] slides for tommorow

2004-02-01 Thread guy keren
quite late, but i have my excuses :0 the slides are temporarily available at http://www.actcom.co.il/~choo/kernel-compilation/ if anyone manages to send comments, i _might_ be able to try and fix things tommorow - can't promise, though... see y'all tommorow, -- guy For world domination -