Hi!
First of all a note: the W2L mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has
remained active since the last W2L session. I sent there a message a couple
of days ago. I'm CCing this message there.
I did not attend the coordination meeting because I wasn't aware of it up to
very late at night during the previous day. (due to the fact it was heavily
under-publicized) Thus, I couldn't plan ahead, get a ride, and attend it. I
believe many other FOSS activists, especially from Telux and Jerux, couldn't
either.
If I don't comment on things, or cut them down, it probably means I agree with
them.
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 01:38, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> As part of today's meeting we had the following series in mind:
>
> Two tracks: Technical and non-technical.
>
> First lecture: Joint lecture, the blitz lecture. Many dazzling demo's.
> technically no slides, but mostly presentations. The list of things to
> present TBD later.
>
> Non technical: second lecture - why linux. FOSS, money, ideology issues.
>
> Technical: second lecture - install + network
> third lecture - basic admin + hebrew (+ little shell)
> fourth lecture - How to move on - RTFM, asking questions,
> solving problems, finishing stuff we didn't cover in third lecture.
>
> In a nutshell: the technical people should understand a bit how things
> work in Linux. We give mostly demoes, but have an ordered explaination and
> "HOWTOs" in the website.
>
> Lectures: 2 X 45/50 min. with 10-15 minute break.
>
Sounds good. Us Telux people may wish to deviate from it a bit. I'll talk with
Eddie about it, and see what he thinks is appropriate.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> PR: We need slogan. something catchy good and useful.
>
We could borrow the Hamakor slogan: "Free is better than gratis". (translate
to Hebrew). I'll post further ideas here when I come up with them.
> Ayelet (EzAton's wife) has volunteered to help with design of posters
> again. This time, posters are to have short text (up to 30 words). I guess
> we'll add next to these posters, posters with the time tables and some
> other data (which can be of much lesser quality, i.e., black-white and
> non-color).
Are these posters going to be made to Telux and Jerux, too?
>
> Shlomi Atar and Ayelet will design together a website (Shlomi is a
> professional designer). Ohad Lotzky will make sure the website is w3c.
OK... wait a sec. Three people for the web-site? Why do you need a separate
person to make sure the web-site is W3C-compliant? If one installs the Web
Developers' Toolbar in Mozilla, he or she can validate the page (either on an
Interconnected site, or on the hard-disk), with a few clicks. If one doesn't
do it early enough, then the prospective validator can end up with a lot of
work. It would be a good idea to make sure it's the same person.
Last time, I was in charge of the web-site. I recall it proved to be a lot of
work, with me sometimes spending days on ends working on it. I also recall
there was a problem with the Jerux people (IIRC) keep changing their
timetable. This year it may be a bit easier because I already have a lot of
templates and code ready. But if Shlomi Atar wishes to start from scratch, I
don't mind. (Less work for me. ;-) )
I can supply him with the HTMLs, templates and code as I have them now. I also
have some guidelines to give him, and we also need to sort out the E-mail,
DNS, web-hosting, etc.
What tools is Shlomi A. going to use? Is Ayelet going to help him only with
the graphics? Where is it going to be hosted? How will it be maintained in
subsequent years? Has all this been sorted out?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Big issues still open:
>
> 1. InstaParty/Linux Day - do we take the effort? On one hand last times
> were quite a fiasco. On the other, with enough PR - things may be much
> better.
I think you mean "failure" instead of "fiasco". I don't really know what to do
with the Linux Day. Last year at Telux, also relatively few people came.
(also possibly due to inadequate PR).
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Some dates & interfaces:
>
> - New website design, operational on 23/AUG (content to be added later).
> takes into consideration the fact that there are other LUGs. (shlomiA +
> Ayelet, technical supervision - Ohad)
I'd also like to supervise this.
>
> - Lectures making & lecturers - needed: someone to manager this aspect.
> volunteers for managing this, please send me mail. Times: chosing
> manager: 14/AUG. Writing the lectures: Alpha version - 14/SEP, Beta -
> 1/OCT, final - 15/OCT. Also responsible on manning the lectures (some of
> them may need two lecturers, or more precisely - lecturer+ assistant).
OK, we need the following lectures:
> Non technical: second lecture - why linux. FOSS, money, ideology issues.
>
> Technical: second lecture - install + network
> third lecture - basic admin + hebrew (+ little shell)
> fourth lecture - How to move on - RTFM, asking questions,
> solving problems, finishing stuff we didn't cover in third lecture.
Now that I think about it, I believe that a possible problem with these
lectures is that we have to cover many different topics in one presentation.
> * electronic PR - manager to deal with forums, websites, banners, etc.
I suppose I can do that.
> - Finding other LUGs doing this - It'd be nice if Telux and JLC would tell
> us soon whetehr they are with us or not. If other LUG wish to joing, it'd
> be nice to locate them now.
>
Telux is planning to do a similar series under the same name this year as
well. I just talked with Eddie on the phone, and we'll probably meet tomorrow
and see what we want to have as a schedule.
> btw, if the nice people of hamakor can reinit the [EMAIL PROTECTED], that
> would
> be nice.
>
Like I said, it is already ready for sending messages. It wasn't disabled.
> also, it was suggested to try and get w2l.org.il.
>
w2l.org.il - yet another domain (aside from {welcome,w,w2,w2l}.linux.org.il).
I don't see a good reason for this. This domain can later be hijacked;
Israeli domains cost a lot of money; it will be another domain to manage and
point to stuff, and another one which people will need. I vote against it.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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