Re: [Hardhats-members] KIDS options

2005-06-27 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Instead of trying to edit an existing build definition, you should create a new one containing just the components you want. ===Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data."--Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Jun 26, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Thurman Pedigo

RE: [Hardhats-members] KIDS options

2005-06-27 Thread Thurman Pedigo
I tried creating a new build. When I get to page three it gives me the same configuration. Perhaps I need to just try it and see if it moves the files over. I think it will maybe not. I have it backed up. Just wanted to see what the thinking was. Im (obviously) total novice with KIDS.

Re: [Hardhats-members] VPE supported in Cache?

2005-06-27 Thread smcphelan
You should also upgrade to the latest version. On Thursday 23 June 2005 01:41 pm, Dan wrote: Anyone know if VPE supports Cache? We've converted DSM accounts to Cache-VMS and after I do anything VPE (..vgl, ..vedd, ..vrr, etc.) I get a NOLINE error. Running VPE v10 VPE Error Trap:

RE: [Hardhats-members] Mumps Read question

2005-06-27 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
Kevin, k contains the ASCII value, you don't need to $A it again. for i=1:1:5 read *k w =,k,! a=97 b=98 c=99 d=100 e=101 Writing $A(k) where k=97 will return ASCII value of first character, ie $A(9)=57 On a Cache system a r *k with entry of Esc results in 27: r *k w !,k ==

RE: [Hardhats-members] KIDS options

2005-06-27 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Somehow I convinced myself I had to create it before I could edit. Thanks to Thomas and Greg I finally got it.. Im glad this group is so rich in resources. Thanks, thurman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Holloway, Thomas (EDS) Sent: Monday,

RE: [Hardhats-members] KIDS options

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Hey...I remember doing the same thing (and I should have known better). Obviously, the desigtner of the roll and scroll interface thought differently, but I don't think LAYGO (Fileman jargon for automatically creating new objects in an edit option -- it stands for Learn As You Go) is especially

RE: [Hardhats-members] Mumps Read question

2005-06-27 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
So apparently *k reads an integer value (the ascii code) while k#1 reads a character value. Thanks Kevin --- Holloway, Thomas (EDS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, k contains the ASCII value, you don't need to $A it again. for i=1:1:5 read *k w =,k,! a=97 b=98 c=99 d=100 e=101

RE: [Hardhats-members] Mumps Read question

2005-06-27 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
The #n Read is basically your regular Read with an automatic limit to the number of characters. When n characters have been entered a CR/LF is automatically applied. This can be good for reading partial records from a file whenever that situation is appropriate but it plays heck with data

RE: [Hardhats-members] Mumps Read question

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Yes, or more properly, k#1 reads a 1 character string. Think about it this way, what could R K#2 do? Basically, # reads have to deal in strings, but MUMPS isn't a strongly typed language, so the difference is largely semantic rather than syntactic. Even in C, you would have int c; scanf(%d,c);

[Hardhats-members] sin tax and some antics

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I think I've been chastized for using jargon on the list. In a language like Java, data types can be inferred from the structure of the program, which is what it means to say it's a syntactic issue. When you need to look at issues of interpretation (e.g., an actual execution, complete with a

[Hardhats-members] Java Faces Open-Source Swarm

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
From ACM Tech News: Java Faces Open-Source Swarm CNet (06/27/05); LaMonica, Martin In an industry moving inevitably toward open-source sharing, Sun Microsystems holds a tenuous grasp on the Java language it created. At the upcoming JavaOne conference, Sun will unveil GlassFish, which provides

[Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
A very general question: Is Extreme Programming (XP) an appropriate model for open source? With all built in tests, pair programming, and all that, is it even workable? I have never tried consciously to adopt XP as a practice, but many of the principles and practices in XP resonate well with how I

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-27 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, its a situation of waiting a long time, or having a database full of dangling pointers. I would say to answer YES and leave the machine to run for the night. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just remember to say NO when Fileman asks you if it should delete or

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
In this case, my presumption is that th entries were created during testing of the upload procedure and nothing has been linked to them yet. Normally, of course, entries should never be deleted from file 200, but you could try scanning through all the file pointing to 200 and deleting the dangling

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread James Gray
What is extreme programming? Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hardhats hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:45 PM Subject: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows) A very

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Programming while performing one of a variety of choices of extreme sports? E.g. skydiving, surfing, mountain climbing, or scuba diving? LOL :-) Kevin --- James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is extreme programming? Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-27 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Speaking of this, do you know how to trigger Fileman's ability to do such a scan. It offers to do it after a record is deleted, but I don't know how to do it at some other time, or how to request such a call programatically. Have you ever seen this done, or needed such functionality? Thanks

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
It's a programming methodology invented by Kent Beck. He speaks about values like - communication - simplicity - feedback - courage - respect and principles describing how to put these values into practice. For example, he recommends: - having teams work together on an application traqding off

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-27 Thread Thurman Pedigo
I am more interested in doing this DELETE in file #2. I only have 20 records there. And I may want do to that a time or two, while I work with UPDATE^DIE transporting records from an older system What should I expect? thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Actually, I think one point of XP is that developers should push themselves by setting high goals and committing to them. It's ironic, given that I don't even drive, but my father really loved auto racing, and I think I inherited it from him. To me, it seems a great metaphor for software

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Well, if you want to start tracking down th epointer relationships, you can find what points to file 2 and where by looking at the PT nodes Global ^DD(2,0,PT -- NOTE: translation in effect ^DD(2,0,PT,2,.082)= .3601)= ^DD(2,0,PT,15,.01)= .02)= etc. But do not forget

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
but the truth is that insight come unbidden, almost as a kind of Gestalt experience, and sometimes slowing down is the best way to accomplish your goals more quickly. So true! I find that I will often sit at the computer and just bang my head against a problem for hours, and not

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Nancy Anthracite
There is a lot to be said for getting a good night's sleep and trying again in the morning - sort of a prolonged stepping away. Of course if you are Greg, you solve those problems in your sleep. ;-) On Monday 27 June 2005 10:55 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: but the truth is that insight

Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)

2005-06-27 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Only sometimes. :-) === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery On Jun 27, 2005, at 8:35 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: There is a lot to be said for getting a