Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-08-01 Thread TyrusMaynard
I want to do some summary on this thread plus some points found on other recent threads that are related (disclaiming that I represent any other) *when I initiated this topic I mistakenly thought that VistaOffice would be deploying the *forum* tools at sourceforge, but instead it has been

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-31 Thread Mike Lieman
On 7/31/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The step of splitting into an applications typediscussion list like the VO users are going to likely want and aninfrastructure list is already going to rock the boat and I feel that we needto take this slowly lest we risk loosing what we have.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-31 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Forum is both good and bad in this respect. The automatic threading can make the volume of messages easier to handle, but the very fact that replies aren't first class messages can be annoying and can actually hinder usefulness. I frequently flag postings to Hardhats and create different

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-31 Thread Ruben Safir
There is now a GUI version of the FORUM client available for Open FORUM. We are also working on getting a web-ized server which will only require a browser. Such Web Mail was developed by SAIC under contract to the VA. We are hopeing for a roll-out of this in the next couple of months.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-31 Thread Mike Lieman
On 7/31/05, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is now a GUI version of the FORUM client available for Open FORUM. We are also working on getting a web-ized server which will only require a browser.Such Web Mail was developed by SAIC under contract to the VA.We are hopeing for a roll-out

[Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread TyrusMaynard
I am posting with a specific topic, but want to thank David Sommers for his recent post expressing caution about splitting discussion between the new VistaOffice (which is a forum) and the historically unified hardhats (which of course is a mail list) I don't have a confident answer for that,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
Forums generally suck. Web tools squash communications and of course, are nothing like the tools for handling email. Nearly ever major programming project has been handled by mailing lists, news groups, and mutt. This and searchable archives are the backbone of collaboration. Finally, MORE

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Mike Lieman
On 7/30/05, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums generally suck. On the other hand, are four fingers and a thumb. ( YMMV ) Gmail Rocks. And please don't look at Open Office for a guild on these kinds ofthings.They are a complete failure in this regard, and that is before we start to

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Tyrus, The current list actually has a web based forum style that can present messages by thread and a couple of other variants.follow the link below to the archive: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members IMHO, anything that is an important thread and needs to be

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
As for the VistA Office EHR list it too is based on Sourceforge and uses the same software as this list. Which o=is bad enough :) Ruben -- __ Brooklyn Linux Solutions So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread TyrusMaynard
I am only a relatively recent arrival to the hardhats list and a beneficiary no matter how this content is packaged ...thank you all. The example I offered in the initial post is a link to LEO another type of project but with a strong and disciplined membership. I believe groups are mainly

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 10:37:58PM -0400, TyrusMaynard wrote: I am only a relatively recent arrival to the hardhats list and a beneficiary no matter how this content is packaged ...thank you all. The example I offered in the initial post is a link to LEO another type of project but with a

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Mike Lieman
On 7/30/05, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 10:37:58PM -0400, TyrusMaynard wrote: I am only a relatively recent arrival to the hardhats list and a beneficiary no matter how this content is packaged ...thank you all. The example Ioffered in the initial post is a link

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread TyrusMaynard
Joseph, By forum style do you mean the accumulated archives of an email list? I know that hardhats has a vestigial forum which is not congruent with the wealth of content that will be mined in the regular email list/archives ...it is that mother lode that I am speaking about. I have

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
CVS, AMEN! ( I dither about the IRC channel )... An IRC channel is wonderful for a sense of community integrity and for help when you need something more interactive and bit more detailed than one can do through email. Ruben ---

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 23:28, TyrusMaynard wrote: Joseph, By forum style do you mean the accumulated archives of an email list? That is the motherload of searchable archives. And it works great with google. A backend to usenet is useful sometimes as well. I have wrongly assumed

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 22:19, Mike Lieman wrote: On 7/30/05, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums generally suck. On the other hand, are four fingers and a thumb. ( YMMV ) Gmail Rocks. this is very good and when I'm in a better mood, I'm going to remember this instead

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
This list has built from one with only occasional posts to a busy one that has built a community. The step of splitting into an applications type discussion list like the VO users are going to likely want and an infrastructure list is already going to rock the boat and I feel that we need to

Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-07-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
We will get you straightened out with time, Rubin. Just hang in there and maybe you will avoid that stroke after all! ;-) On Sunday 31 July 2005 12:22 am, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 22:19, Mike Lieman wrote: On 7/30/05, Ruben Safir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forums