Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-20 Thread Frederick D. S. Marshall
Dear Matthew, The difference between a relational database and a hierarchical one (or, for that matter, a polymorphic one like FileMan) has to do with how it models the world. All databases exist to record an abstract model of pieces of the world. Databases are usually structured as files

[Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold 20050825 available

2005-09-20 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 18:30 -0400, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: [KSB] ...snip... Note that this DVD includes an icon that starts the CPRS GUI under wine. With an installation of the unconfigured database as distributed, it comes up to ask for the id and access code. I don't know enough to configure

[Hardhats-members] Help with vista

2005-09-20 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Hi my name is samuel and i want to know how i add a Ward Location in vista. Thanks, Samuel __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Hardhats-members] Configuring a box:volume set for the domain, taskman, and RPC Broker

2005-09-20 Thread gm
A Vista configuration question involving the box:volume pair set: Given a call to GETENV^%ZOSV on the machine being configured which produces Y = VAH^ROU^ov0^ROU:ov0 Can anyone tell me: 1. does this volume set appear correct in the Volume Set file? 2. does the Box:Volume Pair appear correct

[Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Hi i want to know if there is a way to escape a program while it is runnig, so i will be able to see the exact code line in that moment. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Hardhats-members] Wow, this query file by number is NICE and PTF

2005-09-20 Thread Nancy Anthracite
http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/query/?dbfile=1index=FileNoformat=NAMElimit=200start=1.11 I never looked at it before, even though I recalled being told it was there. I was trying to find out what the heck PTF was, and found it there. And I also found this here:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Configuring a box:volume set for the domain, taskman, and RPC Broker

2005-09-20 Thread Nancy Anthracite
The box:volume pair is really the volume:box pair, so your volume is ROU. Ov) is the box or node name. You need to take a look at the instructions on the hardhats site which is essentially the same for all distributions after the Cache specific initial 39 steps or so.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
The answer is that it depends. In a production environment, you are going to want to disable this (of course), but during development, you might considere enabling keyboard interrupts, and using a simple control-C (interrupt) or control-Z (suspend). But keep in mind tha this is for development

[Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-20 Thread Dr. Schrom
This headline is extremely misleading. Vista-Office is not being 'delivered to physician offices'. Does anyone else think that it is VERY unfair to only provide the Beta test through commercial vendors? My office would otherwise qualify for the test, had I not wasted 15 years and countless

Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Thanks greg but how do i enable keyboard interrupts? --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer is that it depends. In a production environment, you are going to want to disable this (of course), but during development, you might considere enabling keyboard interrupts, and

Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Usually, they are enabled by default and have to be explicitly disabled. If you want to break out of a program, just enter GT.M or Cache directly, and sign in with D ^XUP. (Don't sign in the usual way using ^ZU). But, again, I emphasize that this is not something you want to do in production,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Help with vista

2005-09-20 Thread whitten
Hi my name is samuel and i want to know how i add a Ward Location in vista. Thanks, Samuel I am not an MAS (Medical Adminstration Service) ADPAC (Automated Data Processing Application Coordinator) but I put a page on the wiki:

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-20 Thread ELSIE CASUGAY
This whole thing VISTA-OFFICE is entirely unfair not only to the physicians but also to vendors. I feel like it is being controlled by some group. This VA software is FOIA and supposed to be open source but I have to take a test now if I want to support a physician's office. What if I want to

[Hardhats-members] CMS Releases Beta VOE

2005-09-20 Thread Ignacio Valdes
September 19th, 2005 CMS released an 'evaluation version' of the highly anticipated Vista Office EHR (VOE) according to a CMS website press release. Highlights of the press release are that apparently CMS is going to evaluate how implementations are working at a limited number of beta test

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- Frederick D. S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Matthew, [...] All databases exist to record an abstract model of pieces of the world. Databases are usually structured as files (or tables or classes), each of which lists entities of a similar kind, such as patients, or

[Hardhats-members] vista settings

2005-09-20 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Hi my machine suddenly turn off due to electricity problems while i was running vista. Now i try to run vista again and it wont work. This is what happened: _ GTMD ^XUP Setting up programmer environment GTM

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I like Rick's point about metaphors here. Regardless how expressive a model may be, the set of tools provided by a DBMS does tend to influence the way we model. The basic data type in LISP (List Processing) is the list, and it is no great surtprise that a LISP programmer will be more likely to

Re: [Hardhats-members] vista settings

2005-09-20 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
Take a look at this thread from the archives. http://www.mail-archive.com/hardhats-members%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg07949.html I think that someone could/should write several books from all the excellent data there. You can also search on 'rundown GT.M' as well as reading the acculturation

Re: [Hardhats-members] Help with vista

2005-09-20 Thread Yamir Encarnacion
Please ignore, we figured out how to fix it (mupip rundown). Thanks. Yamir Encarnacion --- Samuel Fontanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks David i will try it. Samuel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my name is samuel and i want to know how i add a Ward Location in vista.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
It's a bit like trying to convince the average home owner in the early 1980's to buy a PC and a DARPA network connection for the purpose of exchanging information with others on the DARPA network. Large institutions came first and exchanged information between them. Even things like e-mail were

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
How about lowering the barriers to entry? There is a cost as well as a benefit side, too --- Christoph Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the way out of this conundrum? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-20 Thread Frederick D. S. Marshall
Dear Greg, You have put your finger on my point about MUMPS, the relational model, the hierarchical model, and so on--they are just the raw materials. They shape the way we solve the problems we face, but they do not usually prevent us from solving problems. If I am an architectural

Re: [Hardhats-members] SQL and M. was: Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-20 Thread Frederick D. S. Marshall
Dear Cameron, This is why I have taken lately to reminding people that VistA is not written in MUMPS. VistA (well, DHCP anyway) is written in Standard MUMPS. The difference, as you know, is the heart of VistA's portability, and therefore sustainability. Yours truly, Rick Cameron

Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Larry Andreassen
If this is in a Cache environment, check out their debugger... http://platinum.intersystems.com/csp/docbook/DocBook.UI.Page.cls?KEY=GCOS_debug#GCOS_debug_debugger Their debugger allows setting break and watch points, stepping thru code, etc. LJA On 9/20/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Nancy Anthracite
You are so right. You might be able to stick a dollar amount on money saved on maintaining and finding paper records, but how can you put a dollar amount on having a machine double check your orders for drug interactions, always having that chart at your fingertips, etc. Priceless for an

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
There are several academic papers on the subject - searching on 'cost benefit analysis electronic medical records' in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed On Tuesday 20 September 2005 03:45 pm, Christoph Guenther wrote: Yes, I realize that there is a benefits as well as cost

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
A good mathematical model (at least for starters) might be to think about expectation values for random variables. Have you ever gone to the store and wondered what line to stand in? I remember recently looking at two lines: one quite long, but full of people with comparatively few items, and one

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Think about this way: You give me $5 and I give you a pair of dice. You have two opportunities to roll a pair of sixes, upon which I will pay you $30. Is it a good bet? Now, you have two choices: either we can increase the payoff (how much?) or the number of attempts you are allowed (how many?)

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
OK, I guess some of them are duds. But how about A Cost-Benefit Analysis of Electronic Medical Records in Primary Care http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrievedb=pubmeddopt=Abstractlist_uids=12714130query_hl=11 You can click on the Related Articles link and get 798 article

RE: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
It depends on what you call a good bet you will never hit 100% pay off. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
That's right. And you can never be 100% sure that your investment in an EHR will pay off, either. --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on what you call a good bet you will never hit 100% pay off. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE

RE: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Greg Woodhouse
If you only have about 1 chance in 20 of success, a payoff of 6 times your initial investment isn't a very good bet. Now, implementing an EMR will require an initial investement (possibly sizeable) but may increase or decrease your cost of doing business. The point, though, is that if situation

[Hardhats-members] Open health records software comes of age

2005-09-20 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
I don't recall if this has been posted here ... http://www.govhealthit.com/article90746-09-12-05-Print Article in Government Health IT about WorldVistA coordination. attachment: winmail.dat

[Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold 20050825 available

2005-09-20 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Bhaskar, If someone were to take your database file and set of routines, and were to configure it such that there is a user defined so that a log-in is allowed, then how should that be communicated back to you? One problem with CPRS under wine that should be easily fixed is that it tries to save

[Hardhats-members] Re: VOE DELIVERED TO PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-20 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Tell you what, you can be my installer, and I'll pay you accordingly. (Wink, nod) Kevin :-) On 9/20/05, John Leo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEWSPEAK I got the flames out of my system a couple weeks ago. I do not understand the problem with obtaining IHS modules for VOE. Why would

RE: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Wendell Murray
I've been working on an analysis of EMRs (and replacement of a PM) for a 30-provider, 8-office primary care practice in Chester County PA. I've reviewed proposals and demos for all of the top commercial vendors selling to the ambulatory (i.e., non-hospital) market. I've also read every rating and

[Hardhats-members] Re: Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I have written a debugger for GT.M also, that lets one step through code using GT.M stepping functions. Its still got some rough edges, but I use it all the time. Kevin On 9/20/05, Larry Andreassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is in a Cache environment, check out their debugger...

Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program

2005-09-20 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] Escaping from a program Which MUMPS are you running? If it's GT.M, you can send it an interrupt and have the process dump its state to a file. -- Bhaskar -- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -Original

Re: [Hardhats-members] vista settings

2005-09-20 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] vista settings Try a mupip rundown and then a mupip integ to check for database structural integrity. If that's OK try running VistA again. Most likely, GT.M is generating an error message about being unable to access the database, but the VistA error

[Hardhats-members] Configuring a box:volume set for the domain, taskman, and RPC Broker

2005-09-20 Thread gm
Thank you Nancy. gmartinson --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-09-20 Thread Suchi Pande
Nancy Anthracite wrote: You are so right. You might be able to stick a dollar amount on money saved on maintaining and finding paper records, but how can you put a dollar amount on having a machine double check your orders for drug interactions, always having that chart at your fingertips,

Re: [Hardhats-members] vista settings

2005-09-20 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
You can also D ^XTER and then ask to see ALL errors. The Kernel (VistA) error handler does screen out certain errors by default, but that's for display purposes only. You can display all errors if you wish. ===Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"One must act on what has not yet happened."--Lao Tzu