RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
If someone takes Little Red Riding Hood and just changes the word Red wherever it shows up to Green, then claims a copyright of some kind or another on it, and someone else changes every other word Red to Green (half red and half green), and the first person who thinks they hold a copyright tries

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 00:02 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: If someone takes Little Red Riding Hood and just changes the word Red wherever it shows up to Green, then claims a copyright of some kind or another on it, and someone else changes every other word Red to Green (half red and half

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 13:19 +0530, Suchi Pande wrote: I wrote: Open source is usually one of two licence styles. BSD style and GPL style. Todd Berman wrote: But for sure, there are for more styles of licenses than those 2. More explicitly, I am saying that all open source licences have

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Kevin -- Price depends on number of users and level of service. Let's talk offline by e-mail. -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wed 9/21/2005 8:01 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re:

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Kevin -- Standard annual support (e-mail or phone during normal business hours, Eastern time) is $1,000 for up to 8 users and $2,000 for up to 16 users. Premium support (24x7 - you can beep us at any time) comes at a 50% premium (i.e., $1,500 and $3,000 respectively). Thank you for your

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD,SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Bhaskar, KS
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Todd Berman Sent: Thu 9/22/2005 3:10 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD,SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES On Thu,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Schrom
Bhaskar, Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the concept of paid support is wrong. But, developers can operate within a 'business model' and set a price for your services based on your costs. Those of us in medicine don't have that option. All of our reimbursements are limited, either by

[Hardhats-members] community driven development

2005-09-22 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
Todd Berman wrote: The other key thing to keep in mind is that a piece of software and code released under and opensource license is useless. What is useful is a open development model and community driven efforts. Without those, you have a giant hunk of unmaintained code that stagnates and

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Mike -- I am entirely sympathetic to your plight. In Pennsylvania where I live, doctors in droves are retiring or moving elsewhere for these reasons. That said, your post makes a strong case in a different way for the use of open source free software - with OSFS, you have the choice of doing it

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Schrom
Exactly! A more eloquent statement of my point. I like the neighbor analogy, since this list serves that purpose admirably. So, I'm off to configure Vista. K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Mike -- I am entirely sympathetic to your plight. In Pennsylvania where I live, doctors in droves are retiring or

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Journaling

2005-09-22 Thread César Yáñez Fernández
I appreciate your suggestion and I tried it, but it still doesn't work, mupip just keep saying that it have too many parameters. I have been searching in older mailing list archives (before 2004) and I can't find the answer, do anyone have some other idea? On 9/21/05, Bhaskar, KS [EMAIL

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD,SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Todd, I wasn't saying that anything in the public domain couldn't be modified and distributed by anyone. I was saying the opposite (as with your example with Disney's movies.) What I WAS saying is that just as Disney CAN create a derivative work and apply a copyright that will hold up in court.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Hi, It is my understanding that individuals cannot put something into the public domain themselves... the law is such that one cannot give up the rights to the rights... so, time has to be the worker of the magic (to points 1 and 2 below). If I were to try, I am merely littering. A simple

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Lieman
On 9/21/05, JohnLeo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Anthracite wrote: Samuel has been good enough to send me his documentation. It is in Word documents, some of which can be converted to text files and some with screen captures, so it will be a bit before I figure out exactly how to

[Hardhats-members] Re: Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Mary Vercellino
Hello, First of all, thank you to Kevin and Nancy who have responded to my message about starting CPRS. As a newbie, I have installed the FOIA VISTA on my Windows XP professional computer, and am just trying for a 1 computer install. I am still having trouble getting CPRS to start, but at

[Hardhats-members] medicines???

2005-09-22 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Hi i want to know why i can't assign medicines that i put in the 101.43 file to patients that i assign beds and wards. In CPRS the patients that i don't assign beds and wards i can choose the medicines i create but when i assign a bed and a ward i can't. Is anybody know why? Thanks, Samuel

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Journaling

2005-09-22 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
I have not had a chance to try this myself, but it occurs to me that you maybe trying to use absolute times: -before=-- 11:00 -since=-- 12:00 First, I think you should have a space between the hyphens, e.g., -before=- -11:00. Second, you may be asking GT.M to recover transactions before 11:00

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Actually, I can print to pdf with no problem if that serves to do the trick. JohnLeo is working away at it. It would be nice to get it into an editable format, though, since it is a wiki we are using to post it. On Thursday 22 September 2005 11:14 am, Mike Lieman wrote: On 9/21/05, JohnLeo

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Hi Mary: Have you create a vista user with the provider key? And you already change the \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\host file? In this file is where you put the ip of the computer you want to comunicate from CPRS. --- Mary Vercellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First of all, thank you to

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M Journaling

2005-09-22 Thread César Yáñez Fernández
thank you for your observation, but I still don't get it. the chapter 6 talking about GT.M journaling, says that the correct parameters are: mupip journal -recover -backward -before=- -10:00 -since=- -09:00 mumps.mjl (it says we can use -backward or -forward) and it keeps saying:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD, SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Mike, Not only that, but you will have a true sense of the value you get should you choose to purchase the work or assistance later. One thing to keep in mind is that in some cases, if you think it expensive to have a professional do the job, just try it with amateurs. What this can

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Funny. I have a utility called Acrobat Standard that does the same thing. --- Mike Lieman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/21/05, JohnLeo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Anthracite wrote: Samuel has been good enough to send me his documentation. It is in Word documents, some of

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Lieman
On 9/22/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny. I have a utility called Acrobat Standard that does the same thing. Yeah, but as far as I can tell, you can't configure Acrobat to pluginto a web browser and automagically convert any .doc files you try to look at.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD,SOFTWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 09:00 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: And as for the examples of hiding code in an appliance and selling -that-, well, if I sold a PC as an appliance with Windows XP and didn't forward the license fees to Microsoft, and made a big enough splash that got Microsoft's

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
So, you're wanting to dynamically convert Word documents to PDF in order to mitigate the security risk of viewing Word documents directly? That's an interesting idea. --- Mike Lieman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/22/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny. I have a utility called

[Hardhats-members] It's all very simple (was: CMS NEWS...)

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
All of this talk about public domain software, licenses, open source, etc. seems to me to be missing the point. No matter what license WorldVistA chooses to use (GPL, BSD, LGPL, wumpus, what have you) does NOT apply to VistA. NEW products or modules designed to work with vanilla VistA are another

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Oh...and I'm not using interesting euphemistically in any sense. I meant just what I said: It is an interesting idea. --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you're wanting to dynamically convert Word documents to PDF in order to mitigate the security risk of viewing Word documents

[Hardhats-members] Document formats, licenses and copyrights

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Okay, maybe I'm opening a can of worms here, but it's not entirely clear to me that if I write an application to display or otherwise process Word documents, I can legally distribute it? I note that the GNU project carefully avoids the use of GIF images (and they even talk about it on their web

RE: [Hardhats-members] Document formats, licenses and copyrights

2005-09-22 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
No, that is also why Samba could not write to NTFS file systems for so long and why OpenOffice could not open Microsoft Word documents until they used xml as the storage format. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: CMS NEWS: ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORD,SOF TWARE DELIVERED TO, PHYSICIAN OFFICES

2005-09-22 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
There is a case where an firewall appliance maker ,I forget who, that is going to court over their use of Linux on the appliance. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email:

RE: [Hardhats-members] Document formats, licenses and copyrights

2005-09-22 Thread Todd Berman
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 18:20 +, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: No, that is also why Samba could not write to NTFS file systems for so long and why OpenOffice could not open Microsoft Word documents until they used xml as the storage format. Uh. I use OpenOffice every day to open

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Lieman
On 9/22/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh...and I'm not using interesting euphemistically in any sense. I meant just what I said: It is an interesting idea. I pretty much *never* use a Windows box, so it really simplifies the viewing of .docs . I know I could open it in

[Hardhats-members] How about TeX/LaTeX?

2005-09-22 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Both the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) and American Mathematical Society (AMS) prefer (require?) that papers be submitted in LaTeX format. I am especially interested in typesetting equations (particularly logical symbols) and diagrams of automata, trees, graphs, and the like. ===

[Hardhats-members] Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Mary Vercellino
Hello, I have been trying to get CPRS to work on my 1 computer local installation of VISTA. I was reading the archives, and Kevin T. said that one could try starting a text-based CPRS to see if connections were working. I have scoured the VA documentation, and maybe I am missing something.

RE: [Hardhats-members] medicines???

2005-09-22 Thread Samuel Fontanez
Cameron, did the medicines that i add in the 101.43 file are not the same that the Unit Dose or the IV meds? Because i made input to that file when i create the medicines. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know the details of the mechanics, but I can tell you why.

[Hardhats-members] M and VistA programmers

2005-09-22 Thread Wendell Murray
I have a business that designs and implements healthcare and other information systems, among other things. I've been working recently on ambulatory EMRs and PMs. That work led me to VistA in July when the VOE was being publicized. Investigating VistA, VOE, the marketplace, etc. the last

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Generally with Windows XP and the latest FOIAs, the use of the hosts file is not longer required. The shortcut should be good enough. Be sure that the documentation in Cache is working and that you can search it. Try disconnecting from the Internet and turning off the Windows firewall and

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
That sounds like the $300 utility. On Thursday 22 September 2005 12:27 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote: Funny. I have a utility called Acrobat Standard that does the same thing. --- Mike Lieman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/21/05, JohnLeo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Anthracite wrote:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Documentation

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
You can't put HTML on the Wiki without getting David to turn off his spam protection, and I was trying to avoid that. On Thursday 22 September 2005 12:30 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote: You can always save the document as HTML (but I don't know that I'd want to edit the result). --- Nancy Anthracite

RE: [Hardhats-members] medicines???

2005-09-22 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
I don't know if those entries are shared between inpatient and outpatient pharmachy, they very well may be. But more than likely there are settings in the INPATIENT MEDICATIONS package that need to be setup. E.g. entries in tables that belong to Inpatient Meds named: Pick List, Pharmacy Quick

[Hardhats-members] Update on Hurricane relief efforts by the VistA community, 6pm EDT, Thu Sep 22

2005-09-22 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
There was a conference call a few minutes ago to discuss the status of hurricane relief efforts by the VistA community. In short, efforts are on hold pending what happens with Rita in the next few days. The word from Terry LeBlanc (on the ground in Lafayette) is that in the last few hours, the

Re: [Hardhats-members] Nice work

2005-09-22 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
How did you get the screen shots to show? Kevin On 9/22/05, JohnLeo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your contribution, Samuel. I have put up the first section of your guide on the wiki (watch the word wrap)

RE: [Hardhats-members] Install MPI AUSTIN

2005-09-22 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
A KIDS build for the a central MPI service is in the Master Patient Index MPI folder at ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/software/packages/ -Original Message- From: Cameron Schlehuber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:54 AM To:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Mary, In VistA, there is a huge menu system. These are called OPTIONS. When one logs into VistA in a standard fashion (i.e. do ^ZU or do ^XUS), then the user is taken directly to their default menu option. Alternatively, you log in via the programmers entrancd (do ^XUP), then you are allowed

Re: [Hardhats-members] Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Let me add that this text-based CPRS will help one know if server CONFIGURATIONS are correct, NOT connections. Because it is accessed from a console, after one is logged into the system, it has nothing to do with getting around firewalls or having the RPCBroker listener sitting on. Kevin On

[Hardhats-members] Special request re email to me since Sept 12

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
My email provider lost a hard drive and ate all of my inbox mail since Sept 7. Because I have disconnected IMAP, when their hard-drive went down and they restored it with their most recent backup, it ended up deleting all of the inbox email for that account on my machine! I last backed

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about TeX/LaTeX?

2005-09-22 Thread Christoph Guenther
I used mostly LaTeX over 10 years ago for my Ph.D. thesis and for scientific papers. It is excellent for typesetting equations and making schematic drawings of things and so it seems well-suited for your purpose. It is a little different in that it is not WYSIWYG (like Word, etc.). However, I

[Hardhats-members] Special request re email to me since Sept 7th

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It just got worse. Make that mail since Sept 7. My email backup did not include the disconnected IMAP account directory. :-( -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Special request re email to me since Sept 12 Date: Thursday 22 September 2005 07:53 pm From: Nancy Anthracite

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Problems starting CPRS

2005-09-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Yes, I think it might be something added relatively recently. On Thursday 22 September 2005 07:31 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Nancy, Is this something new, with the new method of connecting? I can't get the instructions you give to work on my older system (I am using CPRS 1.0.23.15) Kevin On

Re: [Hardhats-members] Special request re email to me since Sept 12

2005-09-22 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I am using GMail, and it is sure nice! Let me know if you want an invite. Kevin On 9/22/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My email provider lost a hard drive and ate all of my inbox mail since Sept 7. Because I have disconnected IMAP, when their hard-drive went down and they

[Hardhats-members] RE: Update on Hurricane relief efforts by the VistA community

2005-09-22 Thread Jordan Glogau
Bhaskar: Was this conference call announced on this list, I don't remember seeing the announcement? Can other people put up servers with VistA, I am volenteering, my company has servers and bandwidth? How will the people in need find out about the service, patient and professionals? I would

RE: [Hardhats-members] Wiki additions: [was: web evaluation tool]

2005-09-22 Thread Gary Monger
I would take that a little further to say that MUMPS is pervasive in the healthcare industry. Most major HIS products are MUMPS based. Most major LIS systems are MUMPS based. I don't know as much about other auxiliary systems like pharmacy and radiology, but MUMPS certainly has a strong

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: MyHealtheVet client

2005-09-22 Thread Gary Monger
The MHV VistA Package is a set of HL7 interfaces. This first release supports the Rx Refill functionality of the MHV web site. The next release of the MHV VistA Package is due to go to field testing early next year. It will add several HL7 interfaces to support the Personal Health Record

[Hardhats-members] UPDATE - VistA Community Meeting - changed

2005-09-22 Thread Maury Pepper
*** VistA Community Meeting UPDATE *** Due to problems finding an appropriate venue, our regular Fall meeting scheduled for late October is being replaced by a special Development Meeting. The Development Meeting will be open to a limited number of technically advanced VistA users and