I wonder if the classpath vm interface classes where public domain
that issue would be solved. After all, there isn't much value, I
believe, on these classes only.
On 12/5/05, Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, sublicensing. I believe the terms are not clear on how third
parties
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 06:53:08PM -0800, Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 01:52:32PM -0600, Archie Cobbs wrote:
Conclusion being: if it's the merely legality that concerns ASF,
then they should already be happy and this whole problem and
discussion can go away (wouldn't that be
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:49:24AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
So... can we consider this topic done (with the exception of dalibar
getting the last word in response to my last post), at least from the
POV of trying to make progress on it here on the Harmony list, and
move it over
After all that legal talk it is probably a good idea to point out some
of the progress we have made with the various groups. The following is
clearly a first draft so input is very welcome. I hope we can discuss
this more and refine it during our Fosdem meeting in Brussels.
Escaping the Java Trap
Sorry to interrupt with a technical issue...
On Nov 29, 2005, at 6:48 PM, David Tanzer wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 16:34 -0600, Archie Cobbs wrote:
[...]
I stripped out lots of ELF specific stuff, so my version could be
interesting for a port to windows too. I just don't want to
commit it
Mark,
Personally, i'd like to see progress on the VM Interface ASAP, that
would go a long way to removing the mistrust. That would enable
harmony VM to use unmodified classpath stuff as-is for development
purposes and can act as a firewall till the licenses get sorted out.
See snippet from Leo's
Well maybe for you ethics.
.V
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
The fact
that there's GPL-ed code in there is *utterly irrelevant*...
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I stripped out lots of ELF specific stuff, so my version could be
interesting for a port to windows too. I just don't want to commit it
to trunk yet because it's completely untested.
You could create a branch to play with in Subversion. If you do,
I recommend also
Let us leave this open because I am very
interested to incorporate the capabilities
of 'autoconf' into this project. When I get
the time to [finally] polish off the errata
items for the base JVM, this will be one of
the first things to consider.
Dan Lydick
-Original Message-
From: Geir
Hi Vic,
As usual, you ignore what is written in order to present material
that is generally deemed incorrect or irrational.
Note that what I wrote was :
When you get the httpd binary, you just use it. You run it. The
fact that there's GPL-ed code in there is *utterly irrelevant*
On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Archie Cobbs wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I stripped out lots of ELF specific stuff, so my version could be
interesting for a port to windows too. I just don't want to
commit it
to trunk yet because it's completely untested.
You could create a branch to
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 00:13 -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
But even then, there is no guarantee that people will want to do it
because they can't make a closed fork if they want to for whatever
reason. (Which ASL allows and if people wanted to do that, they would
already be participating in
Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Mark,
Personally, i'd like to see progress on the VM Interface ASAP, that
would go a long way to removing the mistrust. That would enable
harmony VM to use unmodified classpath stuff as-is for development
purposes and can act as a firewall till the licenses get
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Archie Cobbs wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I stripped out lots of ELF specific stuff, so my version could be
interesting for a port to windows too. I just don't want to
commit it
to trunk yet because it's completely untested.
Anthony,
for example, there is work done already on XSLTC
(http://xml.apache.org/xalan-j/xsltc_usage.html) in Xalan. I'd like to
be able to make *my* JRE distribution use this by default. To save
space, i *don't* want to use the gnu xml stuff. why should i have to
distribute that? see my point?
Hi Davanum,
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 09:45 -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Personally, i'd like to see progress on the VM Interface ASAP, that
would go a long way to removing the mistrust. That would enable
harmony VM to use unmodified classpath stuff as-is for development
purposes and can act as
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 11:53 -0500, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Anthony,
for example, there is work done already on XSLTC
(http://xml.apache.org/xalan-j/xsltc_usage.html) in Xalan. I'd like to
be able to make *my* JRE distribution use this by default. To save
space, i *don't* want to use the gnu
Hi Tim,
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 16:12 +, Tim Ellison wrote:
Mark: is there some concensus forming on componentization of the
Classpath code that would allow defining whole functional units like
this? The OSGi bundles model seems to tick a number of the boxes as a
standardized method for
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:38 +, Tim Ellison wrote:
Unless/until someone shows up with a comprehensive test suite we have
to start by writing tests for everything that gets patched.
Take a look at http://www.sourceware.org/mauve/
Mauve is a collaboration of several companies and
On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 20:34 +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote:
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 16:38 +, Tim Ellison wrote:
Unless/until someone shows up with a comprehensive test suite we have
to start by writing tests for everything that gets patched.
Take a look at http://www.sourceware.org/mauve/
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 05:59:53AM -0800, Leo Simons wrote:
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 06:53:08PM -0800, Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 01:52:32PM -0600, Archie Cobbs wrote:
Conclusion being: if it's the merely legality that concerns ASF,
then they should already be happy and
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:49:24AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Ok. So there's this joke I like...
A guy dies and goes to hell. A daemon ;) meets him at the door, and
tells him that he gets to choose his eternal punishment. They go to
a large room where people are hanging by their
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:41:10AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Dec 4, 2005, at 11:59 PM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
[SNIP]
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 02:13:30PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Dec 4, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Anthony Green wrote:
Whether or not you make a distinction
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