Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Dalibor Topic
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:32:19AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: Hi Leo, I started replying to your email, suggesting modifications to the ICLA that would address my concerns. As this would probably lead to a very long license thread, I erased it, and I am proposing a simpler solution. I

Re: ITC: Contribution of java.rmi

2006-03-23 Thread Daniel Gandara
FaeLLe wrote Yes i figured it was Birelli's reference counting algorithm. yes, remember that we followed Sun's spec, and it says on section 3.3: RMI uses a referencecounting garbage collection algorithm similar to Modula-3's Network Objects. (See Network Objects by Birrell, Nelson, and

Re: [classlib] Testing

2006-03-23 Thread George Harley
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:02:44AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Leo Simons wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:15:28AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Pulling out of the various threads where we have been discussing, can we agree on the problem :

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:32:19AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: I started replying to your email, suggesting modifications to the ICLA that would address my concerns. As this would probably lead to a very long license thread, I erased it, and I am proposing a simpler solution. simple = good

Re: SableVM? -- naming things

2006-03-23 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:40:10AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: I seem to recall that you mentioned previously that if any part of SableVM would move to be a part of harmony you'd prefer that the name SableVM be kept... This was in a private email discussion between Geir, Archie and me...

Re: Unit testing revisited

2006-03-23 Thread George Harley
Stepan Mishura wrote: On 3/22/06, Leo Simons wrote: SNIP In any case, the obvious answer to the question is that you can do it by writing your implementation so that it is implementation testable in that manner. This means not (or allmost not) using package-private access definitions

Re: SableVM? -- naming things

2006-03-23 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Leo Simons wrote: This was in a private email discussion between Geir, Archie and me... Really? How do I know about it then? ... Oh! Then, it's me that apologizes. Maybe I mentioned or implied this wish in some other email without noticing it. Sorry for the misunderstanding! Cheers,

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Dalibor Topic
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:12:33PM -0800, Leo Simons wrote: Dalibor, On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:46:16AM -0800, Dalibor Topic wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:32:19AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: 5- The ASF provides me with an official, legally binding document, signed by officers

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Etienne Gagnon wrote: 5- The ASF provides me with an official, legally binding document, signed by officers that have sufficient rights to do so, stating that it will only sub-license (distribute, etc.) code contributed by SableVM authors (can be identified specifically) and derivatives of

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Dalibor Topic wrote: 5- The ASF provides me with an official, legally binding document, signed by officers that have sufficient rights to do so, stating that it will only sub-license (distribute, etc.) code contributed by SableVM authors (can be identified specifically) and derivatives of

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Sorry about the delay. Traveling. Etienne Gagnon wrote: I am proposing that we strictly abide by the advertised Apache Harmony Contribution Policy at: http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/contribution_policy.html but, we add one additional condition that must be met by the ASF, and we add an

Re: SableVM? -- ICLA details

2006-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Leo Simons wrote: simple = good :-) :-) In any case, if an ASF officer needs to sign legal paperwork that is unlike anything the ASF has ever signed before, you'll immediately notice a slowdown of all processes since all of a sudden things drop out of internet time.

Re: Unit testing revisited

2006-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
George Harley wrote: I don't want an argument any more than the next person but ... I completely agree with the above statement. If you can't test code by going through the public API then how will the users ever get to exercise it in the real world ? The key is that we aren't

Re: Contributing SableVM?

2006-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Oh! I forgot to add... I think that the reverse should also apply. I do not think that it would be OK for current Harmony commiters to simply go and change the SableVM code without discussing it on this list first. Their right to commit obvious little patches and

Re: Contributing SableVM?

2006-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Hi Geir, b) hopefully an ICLA from each contributor The ICLA rules are less restrictive than the Apache License rules: 2. Grant of Copyright License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, You hereby grant to the Foundation and to recipients of

Re: [vote] Require compiler options that allow partial 5.0 language features

2006-03-23 Thread Yang Paulex
Hi, All This voting has been open for about one week, so I guess maybe it's time to summary the results or so? Seems the result is exciting! and I'm going to be ready to living with staffs like EnumE extends EnumE;-) -- Paulex Yang China Software Development Labotary IBM

Re: [classlib] where to put mods that make classlib more portable

2006-03-23 Thread Weldon Washburn
On 3/23/06, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weldon Washburn wrote: Now that JCHEVM licensing issues are resolved, I would like to find a home for mods that make Harmony Classlib more portable. The files are: nio/src/main/java/com/ibm/platform/OSMemory.java

Re: [classlib] where to put mods that make classlib more portable

2006-03-23 Thread Tim Ellison
Weldon Washburn wrote: On 3/23/06, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weldon Washburn wrote: Now that JCHEVM licensing issues are resolved, I would like to find a home for mods that make Harmony Classlib more portable. The files are: nio/src/main/java/com/ibm/platform/OSMemory.java

Re: how to build Harmony on Windows (with minimum of commercial soft)

2006-03-23 Thread Mikhail Loenko
Finally, I've built Harmony with [almost] all free soft I've downloaded the following MASM32 from masm32.com Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SDK Microsoft Platform SDK Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 I've get rid of Delayimp.lib, removing the following line

Re: how to build Harmony on Windows (with minimum of commercial soft)

2006-03-23 Thread Mikhail Loenko
I've removed setargv.obj from rules.mak and it just works! So all the soft was used is free. Thanks, Mikhail

[bug-to-bug] UTF-8: interpreting non-shortest forms

2006-03-23 Thread Stepan Mishura
According to Unicode standart 4.0 (since 3.0) interpretation of non-shortest forms is forbidden for UTF-8. So if a byte sequence is not in table of well-formed UTF-8 byte sequences then it is considered as ill-formed and treated as error. Harmony follows Unicode spec. but RI doesn't. I didn't find