[Haskell] RE: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-15 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: | In that context, how well-understood is the combination of impredicative | types via boxy types and a proper existential quantifier at the moment? | It's certainly something that has many uses in an industrial context. Stephanie Weirich,

[Haskell] RE: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| In that context, how well-understood is the combination of impredicative | types via boxy types and a proper existential quantifier at the moment? | It's certainly something that has many uses in an industrial context. Stephanie Weirich, Dimitrios Vytiniotis, and I are currently re-writing our

Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-14 Thread John Meacham
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 02:09:55PM +0200, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: Okay then. Consider this my contribution to the discussion. First of all I would like to urge the people who do end up working on this to seriously consider replacing H98's records system. I may be wrong but the impression I get

[Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Sebastian Sylvan wrote: I'm wondering what incremental and moderate extension means? I don't know what others mean by it, but for me, it implies standardizing existing practice, with possibly some conservative redesign to get rid of any hysterical warts. This is, BTW, what the C89 standard did

[Haskell] RE: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Simon Marlow
On 12 October 2005 23:50, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: (I'm specifically interested in seeing SPJ's records proposal included, and a new module system). Highly unlikely, IMHO. A new revision of the Haskell standard is not the place for testing new research, rather it's a clear specification of

[Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 10/13/05, Simon Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 October 2005 23:50, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: (I'm specifically interested in seeing SPJ's records proposal included, and a new module system). Highly unlikely, IMHO. A new revision of the Haskell standard is not the place for

[Haskell] RE: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-13 Thread Philippa Cowderoy
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Simon Marlow wrote: On 12 October 2005 23:50, Sebastian Sylvan wrote: (I'm specifically interested in seeing SPJ's records proposal included, and a new module system). Highly unlikely, IMHO. A new revision of the Haskell standard is not the place for testing new

[Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-12 Thread Sebastian Sylvan
On 10/13/05, Isaac Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of the Haskell Workshop at ICFP, we had the traditional Future of Haskell discussion (chaired by Andres Loeh). One of the main topics was the perceived need of a new standard, because the Haskell 98 standard is quite old already, and

Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-12 Thread Isaac Jones
(Trimming CC list. Maybe we should take this to haskell-cafe?) Sebastian Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip quotes) I'm wondering what incremental and moderate extension means? Does it mean completely backwards compatible or can it mean completely new features including ones which

Re: [Haskell] Re: [Haskell-cafe] Interest in helping w/ Haskell standard

2005-10-12 Thread Isaac Jones
(Trimming CC list. Maybe we should take this to haskell-cafe?) Sebastian Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip quotes) I'm wondering what incremental and moderate extension means? Does it mean completely backwards compatible or can it mean completely new features including ones which