Re: Haskell 98 Report: May release

2002-06-07 Thread Malcolm Wallace
Simon Peyton-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/h98-revised 404 Not Found. Make that http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/haskell98-revised ___ Haskell mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Haskell 98 Report

2002-02-20 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
I don't want to do that until its finished! Which I earnestly hope will be soon. Simon | -Original Message- | From: David Feuer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: 20 February 2002 08:43 | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Haskell 98 Report | | | Is the revised Haskell98 report going

RE: Haskell 98 report; D Specification of Derived Instances

2002-01-29 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| Just before Section D.1 there is the sentence | | When inferring the context for the derived instances, type | synonyms must be expanded out first. | | I don't understand it. Which type synonyms need expansion? Consider type Foo a = [a] data T a = MkT (Foo a) deriving( Eq

Re: Haskell 98 Report: October release

2001-10-04 Thread Christian Sievers
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Feedback please... One typo: In the change for Page 93, Appendix A, Standard Prelude the comment should not talk about a fixtity declaration. ^ Bye Christian Sievers ___ Haskell

Re: Haskell 98 Report: October release

2001-10-02 Thread Malcolm Wallace
the main things I've done this time is to * revise yet again the wording about export lists Two of the changes to Export Decls (Section 5.2) now conflict with each other. [Oct 2001] The form `module M' abbreviates the set of all entities whose unqualified name, e, is in scope, and

Re: Haskell 98 Report: October release

2001-10-02 Thread Iavor S. Diatchki
hello, this was a bug in the report, the B import should not be qualified. it has been fixed in the latest version of the report. [Sept 2001] For example module A ( module B, C.f, g ) where -- an invalid module import qualified B(f,g) import qualified C(f)

Re: Picky details about Unicode (was RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one)

2001-07-24 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:23:30 -0700, Mark P Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: I guess the intention here is that: symbol - ascSymbol | uniSymbol_special | _ | : | | ' Right. In fact, since all the characters in ascSymbol are either punctuation or symbols in Unicode, the inclusion of

Re: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-24 Thread Lars Henrik Mathiesen
From: Dylan Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:57:54 -0400 On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 06:30:30AM -0700, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Someone else, quoted by Simon, attribution elided by Dylan, wrote: | 2.2. Identifiers can use small and large Unicode letters. | What about

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Marlow
3. A precedence table says that case (rightwards) has higher precedence than operators and right associativity. If it's meaningful to talk about precedence of such syntactic constructs as case at all, it should probably be told to have a lower precedence, so case x+1 of ... is valid as

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Marcin Thanks for your careful read. Many of your suggestions I will implement. I'll send separate email about any others. [Haskell mailing list folk: I hope you'll forgive email about the minutae of the Haskell Report. But I don't want to let changes, or even clarifications, go by without

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
Folks Marcin is right about this. It is inconsistent as it stands. I propose to delete the sentence The Preldue module is always available as a qualified import... in the first para of 5.6.1. The situation will then be: if you don't import Prelude explicitly, you implicitly get

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| 3. A precedence table says that case (rightwards) has higher | precedence than operators and right associativity. If it's | meaningful to talk about precedence of such syntactic | constructs as case at all, it should probably be told to have | a lower precedence, so case x+1 of ... is valid

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| 2.2. Identifiers can use small and large Unicode letters. | What about caseless scripts where letters are neither small | nor large? The description of module Char says: For the | purposes of Haskell, any alphabetic character which is not | lower case is treated as upper case (Unicode

Re: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Olaf Chitil
Unfortunately both the old and the new situation are not so nice. Both don't allow a simple translation of Haskell into the Haskell kernel, e.g. you cannot translate [1..] into Prelude.enumFrom 1, because the latter may be ambiguous. The following remark at the beginning of Section 3 is

Re: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:11:32 +0100, Olaf Chitil [EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: Both don't allow a simple translation of Haskell into the Haskell kernel, e.g. you cannot translate [1..] into Prelude.enumFrom 1, because the latter may be ambiguous. That's why I was proposing that importing another

RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| Unfortunately both the old and the new situation are not so | nice. Both don't allow a simple translation of Haskell into | the Haskell kernel, e.g. you cannot translate [1..] into | Prelude.enumFrom 1, because the latter may be ambiguous. | | The following remark at the beginning of

Re: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Olaf Chitil
The report is vainly trying to say that, regardless of what is lexically in scope, the builtin syntax refers to Prelude entities. Perhaps I should reword the offending paragraph to say: Free variables and constructors used in these translations refer to entities defined by the

Picky details about Unicode (was RE: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one)

2001-07-23 Thread Mark P Jones
| 2.2. Identifiers can use small and large Unicode letters ... If we're picking on the report's handling of Unicode, here's another minor quibble to add to the list. In describing the lexical syntax of operator symbols, the report uses: varsym- (symbol {symbol | :})_reservedop symbol

Re: Haskell 98 Report possible errors, part one

2001-07-23 Thread Dylan Thurston
On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 06:30:30AM -0700, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: | 2.2. Identifiers can use small and large Unicode letters. | What about caseless scripts where letters are neither small | nor large? The description of module Char says: For the | purposes of Haskell, any alphabetic

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-06-11 Thread kahl
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: I've finished what I hope is the final version of the Haskell 98 Language and Library Reports http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/haskell98-revised haskell98-library-html/index.html still contains the following line: title The Haskell Library Report 1.4

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-06-01 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
31 May 2001 16:10:43 -0600, Alastair David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] pisze: and if foo has type foo :: (Ord a) = ty then fooBy has type fooBy :: (a - a - Bool) - ty It's (a - a - Ordering) - ty, with the default value being compare. -- __( Marcin Kowalczyk * [EMAIL

RE: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| | deleteBy :: (a - b - Bool) - a - [b] - [b] | | | | I've found it usefully used at this more general type. | | Indeed, and | | deleteFirstsBy :: (a - b - Bool) - [b] - [a] - [b] | | and | | intersectBy :: (a - b - Bool) - [a] - [b] - [a] Indeed. We should either

RE: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-31 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
]] | Sent: 30 May 2001 18:42 | To: Simon Peyton-Jones | Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: Haskell 98 Report | | | Hello Simon, | | Looking at the definition for deleteBy: | | deleteBy:: (x - a - Bool) - x - [a] - [a] | deleteBy eq x []= [] | deleteBy eq x (y:ys

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-31 Thread Fergus Henderson
On 31-May-2001, Simon Peyton-Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should either generalise all three deleteBy deleteFirstsBy intersectBy or none. In favour: the more general types are occasionally useful no programs stop working Actually some programs will

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-31 Thread Fergus Henderson
On 31-May-2001, C.Reinke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..it's easy enough for programmers who want a generalized version to just cut and paste the code from the Haskell report and give it a more general type signature,.. Fergus

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-31 Thread Alastair David Reid
Fergus Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (It would be good for someone, perhaps Simon P-J., to keep a list of issues like this which have been left out of Haskell 98 due to backwards compatibility concerns, so that they don't get forgotten about when it comes to time for the next version.)

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Mark Tullsen
Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: Folks I've finished what I hope is the final version of the Haskell 98 Language and Library Reports http://research.microsoft.com/~simonpj/haskell98-revised However, experience shows that bug fixes are often themselves buggy, so I urge you, once

RE: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
| Sorry to get this comment in so late, but it is a small | change. In the List module, the type signature for deleteBy | is not as general as it could be, given the definition. It | could be generalized to the following (no change to the definition): | | deleteBy :: (a - b - Bool) - a -

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Ross Paterson
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:46:53AM -0700, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote: | Sorry to get this comment in so late, but it is a small | change. In the List module, the type signature for deleteBy | is not as general as it could be, given the definition. It | could be generalized to the following

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Zhanyong Wan
Hello Simon, Looking at the definition for deleteBy: deleteBy:: (x - a - Bool) - x - [a] - [a] deleteBy eq x []= [] deleteBy eq x (y:ys)= if x `eq` y then ys else y : deleteBy eq x ys I can't help wondering why it isn't

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Malcolm Wallace
| It could be generalized to the following (no change to the definition): | | deleteBy :: (a - b - Bool) - a - [b] - [b] Indeed, and deleteFirstsBy :: (a - b - Bool) - [b] - [a] - [b] and intersectBy :: (a - b - Bool) - [a] - [b] - [a] Although curiously, its dual

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Tom Pledger
Zhanyong Wan writes: : | I can't help wondering why it isn't | | deleteBy' :: (a - Bool) - [a] - [a] | deleteBy' f [] = [] | deleteBy' f (y:ys) = if f y then ys else | y : deleteBy' f ys deleteBy'' f = filter (not . f) Malcolm Wallace

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Zhanyong Wan
Tom Pledger wrote: Zhanyong Wan writes: : | I can't help wondering why it isn't | | deleteBy' :: (a - Bool) - [a] - [a] | deleteBy' f [] = [] | deleteBy' f (y:ys) = if f y then ys else | y : deleteBy' f ys deleteBy'' f = filter

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Tom Pledger
Zhanyong Wan writes: | Tom Pledger wrote: : | deleteBy'' f = filter (not . f) | | No. deleteBy' f only deletes the *first* element that satisfies the | predicate f, while filter (not . f) deletes *all* such elements. Oops. Sorry. I ought to become less SQL-oriented...

Re: Haskell 98 Report

2001-05-30 Thread Mark Tullsen
Zhanyong Wan wrote: Hello Simon, Looking at the definition for deleteBy: deleteBy:: (x - a - Bool) - x - [a] - [a] deleteBy eq x []= [] deleteBy eq x (y:ys)= if x `eq` y then ys else y : deleteBy eq x ys I can't help